Topic: Police kill schoolboy wielding fake gun
davidben1's photo
Fri 12/05/14 01:32 PM
none of this has nothing to do with my post ya know.

it still says and stand for the same thing...

equal protection of ALL.

not one's own family MORE!

your response shows you stand for something "different" than what i posted...

yes, i agree...

the protection of what is "mine" most...

there is no room for "protect" self's family "most" was the point.

for indeed, to protect ALL EQUALLY, be the only way to preserve one self...

even though some may not see far enough to sea that.

what comes for your neighbor's neighbor neighbor, next befall all.

so there can be no individualized or family notions when it comes to the betterment of a safe society for ALL...

hell, a lot of the elites only protect their "own" families...

the "mafia' protects it's "own"...

the colored folks "protect their "own"...

the white folks "protect their own"

how is not that not racist preferential protection of rights...

why so many black and whites hate the KKK...

the "Christians" protect their "own"...

the gays protect their "own"...

such mentalities create civil wars and strife amongst all.

i still stand on undue harm to ANY should be felt, seen AND TREATED just as if it happened to one's own kids, if one is actually even going to begin to be successful at keep a safe environment for it's own.

peace






BlkmatureMan57's photo
Fri 12/05/14 01:34 PM
Again you have a white kid in denver co. Shoot an kill like 50 plus people. Hes taken in alive. Hes white alright. You have a white kid cut an stab 13 or so of his schoolmates. Again hes taken alive. When a white kid go to killing an hurting people. The only reason he is not taken alive is because he kill his or herself.
Here we have a 12 yr child not hurting anyone on a playground doing what a 12 yr kid would do play. Hes shot dead!!! He black okay!

davidben1's photo
Fri 12/05/14 01:43 PM
blacks are being played like a fiddle by the white man and many black men and women of elite status, cuss the blacks play the race card, and don't see how it damage their own cause and their own status, only because they wanna win for their own race, the same thing they accuse the "whites" do doing...

so how is it not "racist" against whites...

if WHITES PROTECT WHITES MORE, THEY ARE RACIST.

IF BLACKS PROTECT BLACKS MORE, THEY ARE RACIST.

plain and simple.

we have a long list of celebs and elites and groups outed as white racist...

and de throned and fired!

one even lost his team...

when was the last time we has a black group or celeb or elite ousted as racist?

how long???

LOOK AT EM?

ALL THE RACIST WHITES GET SLAMMED...

this is about police protecting police, that have killed blacks and whites with out just cause in some cases...

to the none racist that is.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/05/14 01:45 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 12/05/14 02:03 PM

Again you have a white kid in denver co. Shoot an kill like 50 plus people. Hes taken in alive. Hes white alright. You have a white kid cut an stab 13 or so of his schoolmates. Again hes taken alive. When a white kid go to killing an hurting people. The only reason he is not taken alive is because he kill his or herself.
Here we have a 12 yr child not hurting anyone on a playground doing what a 12 yr kid would do play. Hes shot dead!!! He black okay!

What Case you have got for Racism,except the one in your own Mind?slaphead

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/3/justice-dillon-taylor-after-white-utah-man-fatally/

Clear case of Racism by your standard?

Justice for Dillon Taylor sought for white Utah man fatally shot by black officer'

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Fri 12/05/14 01:58 PM


Again you have a white kid in denver co. Shoot an kill like 50 plus people. Hes taken in alive. Hes white alright. You have a white kid cut an stab 13 or so of his schoolmates. Again hes taken alive. When a white kid go to killing an hurting people. The only reason he is not taken alive is because he kill his or herself.
Here we have a 12 yr child not hurting anyone on a playground doing what a 12 yr kid would do play. Hes shot dead!!! He black okay!

What Case you have got for Racism,except the one in your own Mind?slaphead

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/3/justice-dillon-taylor-after-white-utah-man-fatally/

Clear case of Racism by your standard?

‘Justice for Dillon Taylor’ sought for white Utah man fatally shot by black officer'



another case of police overreaching,, people should JOIN In the effort to get them to reel it in

IF there is a HISTORY in that area of black officers shooting or harassing white kids,, you may ALSO have a case for racism,,,

but Im doubting it,,,,

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 12/05/14 02:08 PM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Fri 12/05/14 02:12 PM



Again you have a white kid in denver co. Shoot an kill like 50 plus people. Hes taken in alive. Hes white alright. You have a white kid cut an stab 13 or so of his schoolmates. Again hes taken alive. When a white kid go to killing an hurting people. The only reason he is not taken alive is because he kill his or herself.
Here we have a 12 yr child not hurting anyone on a playground doing what a 12 yr kid would do play. Hes shot dead!!! He black okay!

What Case you have got for Racism,except the one in your own Mind?slaphead

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/3/justice-dillon-taylor-after-white-utah-man-fatally/

Clear case of Racism by your standard?

Justice for Dillon Taylor sought for white Utah man fatally shot by black officer'



another case of police overreaching,, people should JOIN In the effort to get them to reel it in

IF there is a HISTORY in that area of black officers shooting or harassing white kids,, you may ALSO have a case for racism,,,

but Im doubting it,,,,

according to the standards and reasoning of the Other Poster there is Racism involved!
Young Man was White,Officer who shot him African-American!
Open and Shut Case!pitchfork

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/05/14 02:10 PM




Again you have a white kid in denver co. Shoot an kill like 50 plus people. Hes taken in alive. Hes white alright. You have a white kid cut an stab 13 or so of his schoolmates. Again hes taken alive. When a white kid go to killing an hurting people. The only reason he is not taken alive is because he kill his or herself.
Here we have a 12 yr child not hurting anyone on a playground doing what a 12 yr kid would do play. Hes shot dead!!! He black okay!

What Case you have got for Racism,except the one in your own Mind?slaphead

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/sep/3/justice-dillon-taylor-after-white-utah-man-fatally/

Clear case of Racism by your standard?

‘Justice for Dillon Taylor’ sought for white Utah man fatally shot by black officer'



another case of police overreaching,, people should JOIN In the effort to get them to reel it in

IF there is a HISTORY in that area of black officers shooting or harassing white kids,, you may ALSO have a case for racism,,,

but Im doubting it,,,,

according to the standards of the Other Poster there is Racism involved!
Young Man was White,Officer who shot him African-American!
Open and Shut Case!pitchfork



it may be racism, knowing about the inherent fear that black males causes in americans (all races),, the implicit fear may have contributed to the overreaction

there is enough history there for us to at least be suspicious when these things happen,,,,,


and in the CLEVELAD area (Being from Akron ohio myself) the history is there,,

BlkmatureMan57's photo
Fri 12/05/14 02:15 PM
Not one time have I said anything about another black man getting killed by a white officer of the law in my post. I'm talking about a 11 to 14 yr kid being gun down for playing in a playground. Yall can take this race card out the picture. A bad person is a bad person an age an race or the job they do don't matter.I bet if someone you loved was 12yr playing with a toy gun in a playgound an was gun down you would not be a happy camper.
This is about human rights. This cop was kick off a police force for being a dam fool already!
Why give him another job in a few towns over?
Anyway he proved hes a dam good shot an could careless about someone life.
Thats all I'm saying.
I'm just wondering if he went to a all white playground whould he had done the same thing.

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/05/14 02:19 PM
hmm, would we increase or decrease employment if we started to require residency in the areas one wishes to police

perhaps if there isn't a 'fear' of those one is supposed to serve and protect,, there will be fewer deaths,,,,


,,,,one can dream

metalwing's photo
Fri 12/05/14 02:35 PM
"...
“The overrepresentation of blacks among arrested persons persists throughout the criminal justice system,” wrote Wilson and Herrnstein. “Though prosecutors and judges may well make discriminatory judgments, such decisions do not account for more than a small fraction of the overrepresentation of blacks in prison.” Yet liberal policy makers and their allies in the press and the academy consistently downplay the empirical data on black crime rates, when they bother to discuss them at all. Stories about the racial makeup of prisons are commonplace; stories about the excessive amount of black criminality are much harder to come by.

“High rates of black violence in the late twentieth century are a matter of historical fact, not bigoted imagination,” wrote Mr. Stuntz. “The trends reached their peak not in the land of Jim Crow but in the more civilized North, and not in the age of segrega­tion but in the decades that saw the rise of civil rights for African Americans — and of African American control of city governments.” The left wants to blame these outcomes on racial animus and “the system,” but blacks have long been part of running that system. Black crime and incarceration rates spiked in the 1970s and ’80s in cities such as Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Washington under black mayors and black police chiefs. Some of the most violent cities in the United States today are run by blacks.

Black people are not shooting each other at these alarming rates in Chicago and other urban areas because of our gun laws or our drug laws or a criminal justice system that has it in for them. The problem is primarily cultural — self-destructive behaviors and attitudes all too common among the black underclass. The problem is black criminal behavior, which is one manifestation of a black pathology that ultimately stems from the breakdown of the black family. Liberals want to talk about what others should do for blacks instead of what blacks should do for themselves. But if we don’t acknowledge the cultural barriers to black progress, how can we address them? How can you even begin to fix something that almost no one wants to talk about honestly?"

Jason Riley is a member of the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/21/family-secret-what-the-left-wont-tell-you-about-bl/#ixzz3L47a6SBX
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

BlkmatureMan57's photo
Fri 12/05/14 02:51 PM

"...
“The overrepresentation of blacks among arrested persons persists throughout the criminal justice system,” wrote Wilson and Herrnstein. “Though prosecutors and judges may well make discriminatory judgments, such decisions do not account for more than a small fraction of the overrepresentation of blacks in prison.” Yet liberal policy makers and their allies in the press and the academy consistently downplay the empirical data on black crime rates, when they bother to discuss them at all. Stories about the racial makeup of prisons are commonplace; stories about the excessive amount of black criminality are much harder to come by.

“High rates of black violence in the late twentieth century are a matter of historical fact, not bigoted imagination,” wrote Mr. Stuntz. “The trends reached their peak not in the land of Jim Crow but in the more civilized North, and not in the age of segrega­tion but in the decades that saw the rise of civil rights for African Americans — and of African American control of city governments.” The left wants to blame these outcomes on racial animus and “the system,” but blacks have long been part of running that system. Black crime and incarceration rates spiked in the 1970s and ’80s in cities such as Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Washington under black mayors and black police chiefs. Some of the most violent cities in the United States today are run by blacks.

Black people are not shooting each other at these alarming rates in Chicago and other urban areas because of our gun laws or our drug laws or a criminal justice system that has it in for them. The problem is primarily cultural — self-destructive behaviors and attitudes all too common among the black underclass. The problem is black criminal behavior, which is one manifestation of a black pathology that ultimately stems from the breakdown of the black family. Liberals want to talk about what others should do for blacks instead of what blacks should do for themselves. But if we don’t acknowledge the cultural barriers to black progress, how can we address them? How can you even begin to fix something that almost no one wants to talk about honestly?"

Jason Riley is a member of the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/21/family-secret-what-the-left-wont-tell-you-about-bl/#ixzz3L47a6SBX
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter


You make some good points here if I must say myself. You leave out some aswell. Kid sale crack rocks go to prison for 11 years. A man fly 100 lbs of cocain in the USA an pay people to look the other way!
Again you make some great points but you leave out alot.

msharmony's photo
Fri 12/05/14 02:54 PM
during and before jim crow, there were 'hi rates' of violence against black by whites


after, there was a rise in black 'convictions',, there really is no definitive source to record black 'crimes',, if crime is measured by the breaking of laws,,,,,


and only half of the incarcerated are there for violent crimes, of those many being REPEAT offenders,,

which .even if we are to believe the implication that black people are just that much more violent,

makes it less of an absolute argument that blacks should be in there more disproportionately than others,,,,


the justice system (allegedly) catches criminals, but it leaves many more to go free,, so we look instead at which criminals it seeks most often,,,

BlkmatureMan57's photo
Fri 12/05/14 05:25 PM
Police have said rookie officer Tim Loehmann believed the boy had a real firearm. The officer's father has said his son had no other choice. A grand jury will consider whether charges are merited. "Young boys playing with replica guns are commonplace in America and police are expected to approach them safely if an investigation is warranted, not shoot them dead within two seconds," said the lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court. It seeks unspecified monetary damages.

Tamir was alone and not pointing the pellet gun at anyone when the officers arrived, the lawsuit said.

The officer's father has said his son had no other choice?
What would have happen if his son had not killed this kid for no good reason?
I bet his mom will be asking for one billion dollars the key to the city!

davidben1's photo
Fri 12/05/14 06:34 PM
you guys over here still tryin to hash out and decide what be more valuable, a white life or a black life...

damn.

sad sadder saddest.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sat 12/06/14 09:14 AM

Cleveland Cop in Toy Gun Killing Resigned From Previous Job After 'Dismal' Handgun Performance, According to Files
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By JAMES HILL17 hours ago


Cleveland Cop in Toy Gun Killing Resigned From Previous Job After 'Dismal' Handgun Performance, According to Files (ABC News)
.The Cleveland police officer under investigation for the fatal shooting of a 12-year-old boy last month resigned from his previous job as a police officer after his superiors determined he had emotional maturity issues, an inability to manage stress and “dismal” performance in firearms training, according to a 2012 personnel file made public Wednesday.
http://news.yahoo.com/cleveland-cop-toy-gun-killing-resigned-previous-job-224232060--abc-news-topstories.html

I rest my case.


Not sure where this points to racism. Only that he was under qualified.

Again, based on what I have heard, the officer was in the wrong in this case.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sat 12/06/14 09:16 AM



The far far rights be well knowing like the far far left an in betweens. It was done with whats called "Deliberate Intentions"


There are many, including me, who can't see the racial connection between the Fergerson and New York events.

Fox News had several different people interview congressmen, the president of the Urban League, protesters in the street, etc. and asked them to explain the racial connection to either event. No one could come up with anything. Black witnesses confirmed Wilson's story and a black female sargeant was the highest ranking officer in the group that did the "take down" in New York.

Where is the racism?

I think a bunch of race baiters, including the President, Holder, and Sharpton are milking these events to generate as much conflict as possible. The President did it with the "War on Women", young vs old, rich vs poor, and he's still causing as much division as possible.



unless you are or have loved a black male it doesn't surprise me for you not to understand it

but if you research the race relations in THESE two regions of the country and the community police relations in the black communities involved,, it may be clearer,, if you care to try to understand,,,,


I wish those who cry racism wouldn't just use the current instance as an example. If a pattern could be provided it would actually make an argument. What people are doing instead is providing this one case say "see, its racism. The victim was black", which, leads the public to naturally believe this is race-baiting.

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sat 12/06/14 09:22 AM

The case is why have a gun happy black hatein cop working around black people. My case is why have a gun happy black cop that hate white people working around white people?
My case an point.


Can you show me where this cop was "black hatin"?

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sat 12/06/14 09:25 AM

hmm, would we increase or decrease employment if we started to require residency in the areas one wishes to police

perhaps if there isn't a 'fear' of those one is supposed to serve and protect,, there will be fewer deaths,,,,


,,,,one can dream


I agree and disagree. The flip side would be if there is a truly corrupt side of town, and those joining the force were from one of the local "gangs", for example. Now you would have one gang that was government funded.

I'm sure, to an extent, it happens anyway though. Another bad outcome would be favoritism to friends/family in the area.

But something to consider...

BlkmatureMan57's photo
Sat 12/06/14 10:32 AM


The case is why have a gun happy black hatein cop working around black people. My case is why have a gun happy black cop that hate white people working around white people?
My case an point.


Can you show me where this cop was "black hatin"?


Proof you ask for okay. You saying all white cops have mad love your young black men?
Proof the kid was not pointing the gun at anyone. Fact the child was alone by his self an was shot to death for having fun by a white cop that love young black kids/

Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 12/07/14 09:35 AM



The case is why have a gun happy black hatein cop working around black people. My case is why have a gun happy black cop that hate white people working around white people?
My case an point.


Can you show me where this cop was "black hatin"?


Proof you ask for okay. You saying all white cops have mad love your young black men?
Proof the kid was not pointing the gun at anyone. Fact the child was alone by his self an was shot to death for having fun by a white cop that love young black kids/


Can you show me a pattern?

Or is it racist everyone a white/hispanic/native american arrests a black guy. Is it racist when a soldier shoots someone on the battlefield of a different ethnic origin? If a white guy and black guy apply for the some job, is it racist every time the white guy gets hired?

I agree, kid was not pointing a gun at anyone. No one was running away screaming. Kid did not state he was going to shoot anyone. And, he was just a kid. Cop over reacted and should be held accountable.

That being said; There is no evidence that anyone has produced that points to this cop being racist. And you cannot assume racism without there being multiple accounts.