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You ever think about personal freedom? I do, but there's different types of personal freedom, right? And I never really thought or worried much about the 'Big Brother is watching you' aspect.
But of late I sometimes feel like the net of being monitored and controlled by government, rules and regulations is getting tighter and the mesh is getting smaller and smaller. We got these adds now 'informing' people that when you import/export you have to pay VAT and import duties. Right, nothing new. It just means they're gonna keep a closer eye on everyone, basically a warning, not really information. I mean, you gotta be quite a knucklehead to not know this? If you sell a book on Ebay for €1, you have to inform the tax office. (I'm sure the administrative work to process that info, costs a hell of a lot more than €1) If I was to sell paintings, I have to inform them, because suddenly I'm a trader. Over the last 2 years or so most ppl with money abroad, to avoid the steep taxes here, did declare it here. They had x amount of time to do so without being fined for tax evasion, after that ... they would get fined .. So billions of Euros ... Thank you computers, internet, EU, trade agreements etc.. And okay, law's the law, but doesn't all that chit squeeze the life out of living, the joy and take our personal freedom away from us? Turn us into puppets on a string? I sometimes really hate this world ... And there's also smaller things. I had to see an employment specialist a couple of weeks ago. He can push one button on a computer and get my entire resume .. 15 yrs ago he would have had to go through plural organisations to get all that info, now it's all there, on one screen. No one even has to ask my permission, no one even seems to consider it's an encroachment on my personal life and privacy?? Then he starts questioning me, why did I work part-time, not full-time ... in 1990. Why didn't I work at all ... in 1992? In this tone of voice, as if I'd done something horribly wrong. Errr ... sorry mate, but that's none of your effing business, is it? For him it's analyzing how I 'function' as an employee I guess. To me it's invading my privacy and personal life. My husband and I agreed that I'd stay home with our kids, so they'd have a decent upbringing, a mom who was there for them whenever they needed a parent. Nothing unusual, not over here anyways. Now, over 20 years later!, I have to explain and defend what my husband and I talked about, our reasoning, norms and values??? Made me want to ask "What's it to you? None of your business!!! I'm not a prisoner of state, am I?" Needed a rant ... sometimes really wonder what this world is coming to... |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Read "The Art of War" The main emphasis is to "know your enemy, use their strength, their fears, against them". The information and control grid of today is NOT for our safety as so many are sleepily believing, but rather the final chains we are creating (or allowing to be created) for our own control.... in the name of security. Using your fears to control you will cause you to surrender your freedom more quickly than torture! Germany never thought such a thing was possible either...... that was 60 years ago..... imagine with today's technology the devastation that can be wrought, then consider the happenings in the Middle East, Africa, and Afghanistan, being done in the name of "OUR SECURITY" Are we not already repeating history? Is the Islamist the new Jew? The brown skinned Eastern man our enemy? The Twin Towers the modern day Reichstag? Consider the changes 9/11 has brought on the world, our freedoms, our right to travel, bear arms, the economy, and the control we now live under..... Papers please! http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/burns.htm We call it the DHS, DHCQ, Mossad...... The Senate, Parliament, and the SCOTUS President Hindenburg had fallen under Hitler's spell and was signing just about anything put in front of him. He signed an emergency decree that put the German state of Prussia into the hands of Hitler confidant, Vice Chancellor Papen. G�ring as Minister of the Interior for Prussia took control of the police. Prussia was Germany's biggest and most important state and included the capital of Berlin. G�ring immediately replaced hundreds of police officials loyal to the republic with Nazi officials loyal to Hitler. He also ordered the police not to interfere with the SA and SS under any circumstances. This meant that anybody being harassed, beaten, or even murdered by Nazis, had nobody to turn to for help. Roll-call and weapons inspection for Nazi storm troopers now functioning as Hilfspolizei (Auxiliary Police). G�ring then ordered the police to show no mercy to those deemed hostile to the State, meaning those hostile to Hitler, especially Communists. "Police officers who use weapons in carrying out their duties will be covered by me. Whoever misguidedly fails in this duty can expect disciplinary action," stated the order of Hermann G�ring to the Prussian Police. On February 22nd, G�ring set up an auxiliary police force of 50,000 men, composed mostly of members of the SA and SS. The vulgar, brawling, murderous Nazi storm troopers now had the power of police. Sound familiar? |
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hmmm .. all pretty scary .. Big Pharma.. Codex Alimentarius blabla.. all enforced upon us in baby steps so nobody really notices..
I know it can be changed, turned around, I'm a light-worker, a pagan, an energy worker. I'm part of the good that is growing, the counterweight. I know there's more and more ppl 'waking' up ... A lot of good IS happening as well, the good IS increasing .. but sometimes I feel we're still sort of balancing on the edge where it can still go either way .. Pretty scary stuff .. |
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Many have said some few of us claim our POTUS is the new Hitler, but nothing could be further from the truth. Obozo is a puppet! Yes, he's a liberal socialist, unqualified to lead, only follow orders, turning power over to the state, it's financiers (the banks and corporations), backed by their media, its propaganda and the power that it wields on the masses. It is said money corrupts, but power corrupts absolutely. The 1930's Germany is an excellent example of what happens when the state, controlled by a wealthy and powerful oligarchy, is given too much power The people will always lose when biting the hand that feeds them then makes perfect sense. Realizing they have relinquished all power that was theirs to give, they can only silently lick their wounds while cowering in fear and servitude to the monster they have created..... And history repeats itself 
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People who don't conform to the control of fear stand out...damn, I really must do something about my smart mouth. ha.
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You ever think about personal freedom? I do, but there's different types of personal freedom, right? And I never really thought or worried much about the 'Big Brother is watching you' aspect. But of late I sometimes feel like the net of being monitored and controlled by government, rules and regulations is getting tighter and the mesh is getting smaller and smaller. We got these adds now 'informing' people that when you import/export you have to pay VAT and import duties. Right, nothing new. It just means they're gonna keep a closer eye on everyone, basically a warning, not really information. I mean, you gotta be quite a knucklehead to not know this? If you sell a book on Ebay for €1, you have to inform the tax office. (I'm sure the administrative work to process that info, costs a hell of a lot more than €1) If I was to sell paintings, I have to inform them, because suddenly I'm a trader. Over the last 2 years or so most ppl with money abroad, to avoid the steep taxes here, did declare it here. They had x amount of time to do so without being fined for tax evasion, after that ... they would get fined .. So billions of Euros ... Thank you computers, internet, EU, trade agreements etc.. And okay, law's the law, but doesn't all that chit squeeze the life out of living, the joy and take our personal freedom away from us? Turn us into puppets on a string? I sometimes really hate this world ... And there's also smaller things. I had to see an employment specialist a couple of weeks ago. He can push one button on a computer and get my entire resume .. 15 yrs ago he would have had to go through plural organisations to get all that info, now it's all there, on one screen. No one even has to ask my permission, no one even seems to consider it's an encroachment on my personal life and privacy?? Then he starts questioning me, why did I work part-time, not full-time ... in 1990. Why didn't I work at all ... in 1992? In this tone of voice, as if I'd done something horribly wrong. Errr ... sorry mate, but that's none of your effing business, is it? For him it's analyzing how I 'function' as an employee I guess. To me it's invading my privacy and personal life. My husband and I agreed that I'd stay home with our kids, so they'd have a decent upbringing, a mom who was there for them whenever they needed a parent. Nothing unusual, not over here anyways. Now, over 20 years later!, I have to explain and defend what my husband and I talked about, our reasoning, norms and values??? Made me want to ask "What's it to you? None of your business!!! I'm not a prisoner of state, am I?" Needed a rant ... sometimes really wonder what this world is coming to... I can't really answer for Holland but here in the US, it is getting to be the same. There are some things you cannot escape like excise, import/export taxes and sales tax (your VAT). But then these are all called "voluntary taxes" that you may escape by not participating in those functions, which really means you either do without or pay the tax. But all of this is nothing new, it has been going on for millennia, when these mystical kings with their armies claimed a right on the people and demanded they pay homage with a share of their labors to live upon the land that was stolen from them. But as one of my favorite author's wrote: There is also an impression that if actual recessions do not come about of themselves, they may be brought about by the expedient of voting one political party out and another one in. This idea rests upon certain assumptions that experience has shown to be unsound; the first one being that the power of the ballot is what republican political theory makes it out to be, and that therefore the electorate has an effective choice in the matter. It is a matter of open and notorious fact that nothing like this is true. Our nominally republican system is actually built on an imperial model, with our professional politicians standing in the place of the praetorian guards; they meet from time to time, decide what can be "got away with," and how, and who is to do it; and the electorate votes according to their prescriptions. Under these conditions it is easy to provide the appearance of any desired concession of State power, without the reality; our history shows innumerable instances of very easy dealing with problems in practical politics much more difficult than that. One may remark in this connexion also the notoriously baseless assumption that party-designations connote principles, and that party-pledges imply performance. Moreover, underlying these assumptions and all others that faith in "political action" contemplates, is the assumption that the interests of the State and the interests of society are, at least theoretically, identical; whereas in theory they are directly opposed, and this opposition invariably declares itself in practice to the precise extent that circumstances permit. As Dr. Sigmund Freud has observed, it can not even be said that the State has ever shown any disposition to suppress crime, but only to safeguard its own monopoly of crime. In Russia and Germany, for example, we have lately seen the State moving with great alacrity against infringement of its monopoly by private persons, while at the same time exercising that monopoly with unconscionable ruthlessness. Taking the State wherever found, striking into its history at any point, one sees no way to differentiate the activities of its founders, administrators and beneficiaries from those of a professional-criminal class. Such are the antecedents of the institution which is everywhere now so busily converting social power by wholesale into State power.[11] The recognition of them goes a long way towards resolving most, if not all, of the apparent anomalies which the conduct of the modern State exhibits. It is of great help, for example, in accounting for the open and notorious fact that the State always moves slowly and grudgingly towards any purpose that accrues to society's advantage, but moves rapidly and with alacrity towards one that accrues to its own advantage; nor does it ever move towards social purposes on its own initiative, but only under heavy pressure, while its motion towards anti-social purposes is self-sprung. -Albert Jay Nock, "Our Enemy, The State (1935) |
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Read "The Art of War" The main emphasis is to "know your enemy, use their strength, their fears, against them". The information and control grid of today is NOT for our safety as so many are sleepily believing, but rather the final chains we are creating (or allowing to be created) for our own control.... in the name of security. Using your fears to control you will cause you to surrender your freedom more quickly than torture! Germany never thought such a thing was possible either...... that was 60 years ago..... imagine with today's technology the devastation that can be wrought, then consider the happenings in the Middle East, Africa, and Afghanistan, being done in the name of "OUR SECURITY" Are we not already repeating history? Is the Islamist the new Jew? The brown skinned Eastern man our enemy? The Twin Towers the modern day Reichstag? Consider the changes 9/11 has brought on the world, our freedoms, our right to travel, bear arms, the economy, and the control we now live under..... Papers please! http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/burns.htm We call it the DHS, DHCQ, Mossad...... The Senate, Parliament, and the SCOTUS President Hindenburg had fallen under Hitler's spell and was signing just about anything put in front of him. He signed an emergency decree that put the German state of Prussia into the hands of Hitler confidant, Vice Chancellor Papen. G�ring as Minister of the Interior for Prussia took control of the police. Prussia was Germany's biggest and most important state and included the capital of Berlin. G�ring immediately replaced hundreds of police officials loyal to the republic with Nazi officials loyal to Hitler. He also ordered the police not to interfere with the SA and SS under any circumstances. This meant that anybody being harassed, beaten, or even murdered by Nazis, had nobody to turn to for help. Roll-call and weapons inspection for Nazi storm troopers now functioning as Hilfspolizei (Auxiliary Police). G�ring then ordered the police to show no mercy to those deemed hostile to the State, meaning those hostile to Hitler, especially Communists. "Police officers who use weapons in carrying out their duties will be covered by me. Whoever misguidedly fails in this duty can expect disciplinary action," stated the order of Hermann G�ring to the Prussian Police. On February 22nd, G�ring set up an auxiliary police force of 50,000 men, composed mostly of members of the SA and SS. The vulgar, brawling, murderous Nazi storm troopers now had the power of police. Sound familiar? Absolutely, the model framework for what once was the glorious republic of these united States. |
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hmmm .. all pretty scary .. Big Pharma.. Codex Alimentarius blabla.. all enforced upon us in baby steps so nobody really notices.. I know it can be changed, turned around, I'm a light-worker, a pagan, an energy worker. I'm part of the good that is growing, the counterweight. I know there's more and more ppl 'waking' up ... A lot of good IS happening as well, the good IS increasing .. but sometimes I feel we're still sort of balancing on the edge where it can still go either way .. Pretty scary stuff .. It could go either way, all in a breath. But until the New World Order actually manifests, there is hope. If you look at history, it does not take a majority to effect change. These united States was formed when only 7% of the population took action. The remainder that joined the fight, followed due to their contempt for the British, not our of a conviction for freedom. For you the good news would be the disintegration of the EU, which gets closer every day. Europe has always been a continent of individual nations with their own cultures and heritages. It has been the work of the bankers to unite them for the banker's gains, not the peoples for their is not one country in Europe that has not lost individual freedoms because of the EU. |
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Many have said some few of us claim our POTUS is the new Hitler, but nothing could be further from the truth. Obozo is a puppet! Yes, a puppet with the dream of being a Hitler. Not a problem for him to do what he does. And the Obozo part, he actually believes he can be a dictator and respected world leader. I mean his speech after getting handed his butt about all his great accomplishments was sickening. |
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People who don't conform to the control of fear stand out...damn, I really must do something about my smart mouth. ha. Yes they do and they aren't afraid to stand up, feel no need to hide from their beliefs. |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Fri 11/07/14 05:04 PM
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Im not scared of much, except regression and stunted growth,,,,
theres a price to pay whenever we involve others,, a fact of life that has been part of my view on life demanding a 'balance',,, since I can remember |
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Many have said some few of us claim our POTUS is the new Hitler, but nothing could be further from the truth. Obozo is a puppet! ... And, as the token Jew, I'd appreciate if people would stop insulting Hitler by making such comparisons. The world seems to have forgotten, that Josef Stalin was as vile and murderous as any despot. |
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Im not scared of much, except regression and stunted growth,,,, I'm only scared that planet Earth will some day run out of cats. You Humans need to keep breeding them and feeding them so that I can keep eating them. 
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Edited by
michelake
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Fri 11/07/14 06:01 PM
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You ever think about personal freedom? I do, but there's different types of personal freedom, right? And I never really thought or worried much about the 'Big Brother is watching you' aspect. But of late I sometimes feel like the net of being monitored and controlled by government, rules and regulations is getting tighter and the mesh is getting smaller and smaller. We got these adds now 'informing' people that when you import/export you have to pay VAT and import duties. Right, nothing new. It just means they're gonna keep a closer eye on everyone, basically a warning, not really information. I mean, you gotta be quite a knucklehead to not know this? If you sell a book on Ebay for €1, you have to inform the tax office. (I'm sure the administrative work to process that info, costs a hell of a lot more than €1) If I was to sell paintings, I have to inform them, because suddenly I'm a trader. Over the last 2 years or so most ppl with money abroad, to avoid the steep taxes here, did declare it here. They had x amount of time to do so without being fined for tax evasion, after that ... they would get fined .. So billions of Euros ... Thank you computers, internet, EU, trade agreements etc.. And okay, law's the law, but doesn't all that chit squeeze the life out of living, the joy and take our personal freedom away from us? Turn us into puppets on a string? I sometimes really hate this world ... And there's also smaller things. I had to see an employment specialist a couple of weeks ago. He can push one button on a computer and get my entire resume .. 15 yrs ago he would have had to go through plural organisations to get all that info, now it's all there, on one screen. No one even has to ask my permission, no one even seems to consider it's an encroachment on my personal life and privacy?? Then he starts questioning me, why did I work part-time, not full-time ... in 1990. Why didn't I work at all ... in 1992? In this tone of voice, as if I'd done something horribly wrong. Errr ... sorry mate, but that's none of your effing business, is it? For him it's analyzing how I 'function' as an employee I guess. To me it's invading my privacy and personal life. My husband and I agreed that I'd stay home with our kids, so they'd have a decent upbringing, a mom who was there for them whenever they needed a parent. Nothing unusual, not over here anyways. Now, over 20 years later!, I have to explain and defend what my husband and I talked about, our reasoning, norms and values??? Made me want to ask "What's it to you? None of your business!!! I'm not a prisoner of state, am I?" Needed a rant ... sometimes really wonder what this world is coming to... As a Dutch citizen i can really relate to your story. And it was already pretty bad before the "Big Brother" thing came into place. I used to work for a working agency. And they had the nerve to say that people over 19 years old are less valued in the corporate world. Because it will be harder to mold them into a "ready made" employee. Most of these issues have to do with the fact that employers live in a paradise in Holland. Not just because of the tax cuts. But also because they know that people are always in need of a job. And at that time i had to find a job. Then there was too less jobs. So they employers grew more and more arrogant. With the spineless politicians backing them up. And stiring up the public by having ******** rhetoric like ' If you are able to comb your hair then you are able to work too. Even when you are in a wheelchair" That is what our country has become to. That dual mentality of our government. and the spineless politicians. That never created more jobs. But expect the people to find one. Or they will be sanctioned. You know.. i even went to a job interview once. And i was rejected. Because that piece of chit said to me that he did not dare to hire me. Because my parents where divorced. And it would somehow make me unstable in the future.. And this happened to me 20 years ago !!! I remember my grandfather telling me that when he got hired after the war. And his employee told him to sit and wait until the materials would come. So he just got paid for 2 days without doing anything. Also some of my family members got a pretty decent job. And they only have minimal education. But now i know people that are highly educated. And struggle to get a minimal job. So the less work available. The more crazy and arrogant the employers will become. Well it depends on the individual off course.. I have a good income now. But i dread for the day that i will have to go back into that rat race again.  |
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things are shifting towards a larger gap btwn haves and have nots
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People who don't conform to the control of fear stand out...damn, I really must do something about my smart mouth. ha. Knowledge brings fear. It is hard to hide. I am not sure if it is possible in our brave new world. |
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People who don't conform to the control of fear stand out...damn, I really must do something about my smart mouth. ha. Knowledge brings fear. It is hard to hide. I am not sure if it is possible in our brave new world. It's not knowledge that brings fear....it's ignorance! |
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things are shifting towards a larger gap btwn haves and have nots or workers that 'earn' and owners who 'benefit' yep,and the more Socialist-Doo-Dah you introduce,the worse it will get! |
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things are shifting towards a larger gap btwn haves and have nots or workers that 'earn' and owners who 'benefit' yep,and the more Socialist-Doo-Dah you introduce,the worse it will get! What would be your solution to this problem ? Conrad_73 |
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things are shifting towards a larger gap btwn haves and have nots or workers that 'earn' and owners who 'benefit' yep,and the more Socialist-Doo-Dah you introduce,the worse it will get! What would be your solution to this problem ? Conrad_73 Get the ****ing Government out of People's Face before the whole world doesn't end up like the old USSR! |
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