Topic: The Reason Chivalry Is Dead
MariahsFantasy's photo
Fri 08/08/14 10:00 AM



I've learned time and time again I was told to ignore my extincts and stop reading into things. Well when it comes to how people treat you, I'm not gonna turn it off so you can continue to treat people like dog chit.
Me too! People will tell me Im reading too much into it, and EVERY time, I turned out to be right about my intuition. I have stopped listening to the folks who tell me Im reading too much into it since it has done no more than open myself up to jackholes.

Trust yourself for sure.


Well at least it makes us much more self-aware than folks who prefer to take everyone life throws at them on the surface.

MariahsFantasy's photo
Fri 08/08/14 10:24 AM





I've learned time and time again I was told to ignore my extincts and stop reading into things. Well when it comes to how people treat you, I'm not gonna turn it off so you can continue to treat people like dog chit.
Me too! People will tell me Im reading too much into it, and EVERY time, I turned out to be right about my intuition. I have stopped listening to the folks who tell me Im reading too much into it since it has done no more than open myself up to jackholes.

Trust yourself for sure.


Well at least it makes us much more self-aware than folks who prefer to take everyone life throws at them on the surface.
You mean not investing in anything deep, or difficult? Sure, if thats what you refer to. I cant ignore feelings. If Im not brave enough to deal with anything, I am being dishonest with myself. hiding from myself. hiding from whats real. I can only take care of me, and thats as it should be. I know me better than anyone else does. I cant take care of other people who dont want to address their feelings. I have no qualifications to anyway.


I prefer to let hang ups deteriorate on their own volition if push eventually comes to shove. When bad behaviors get questioned it's more drama than I can handle. And it's not my business if their self-evaluation isn't important to them.

indianadave4's photo
Sun 08/10/14 08:09 PM

Chivalry is dead, because most people don't even understand
in historical context, what chivalry was.

Chivalry, was a very violent and deadly era, based on Chivalric Code,
in the name of God and Country.

The era of Cavaliers, is the time period that authors, poets, and people in general, get things confused.

Study the history.


The code of chivalry did not support violence. It was a code of honor.

indianadave4's photo
Sat 09/27/14 02:42 PM
After the women's liberation movement of the 1960s, which insisted on the equal treatment of women in all domains of life, feminists dismissed chivalry as sexist. They still do. An article, published in the feminist journal "Psychology of Women Quarterly", questions the entire enterprise of male chivalry, which, in an Orwellian flourish, it calls "benevolent sexism."

Perhaps because of women's (feminist's) ambivalence about chivalry, men have grown confused about how to treat women. Will holding doors open for them or paying for the first date be interpreted as sexist? Unfortunately social ethics are heavily influenced by the entertainment industry which attacks men at every turn in the road.

Chivalry is another name for civility. During a screening of the Dark Knight, a deranged gunman opened fire in an Aurora, Colorado, theater, murdering twelve innocent people. Three men, all in their twenties, were in the audience that day with their girlfriends. When the shots rang out across the theater, these men threw themselves over their girlfriends, saving the women's lives. All three of the men died. Ask these three women if chivalry is dead.

no photo
Sat 09/27/14 02:50 PM
ahhhh, there it is.


It was coming at some point, again and again... lol People need someone to blame.

Rock's photo
Sat 09/27/14 02:51 PM


Chivalry is dead, because most people don't even understand
in historical context, what chivalry was.

Chivalry, was a very violent and deadly era, based on Chivalric Code,
in the name of God and Country.

The era of Cavaliers, is the time period that authors, poets, and people in general, get things confused.

Study the history.


The code of chivalry did not support violence. It was a code of honor.


Actually, it supported both.
Chivalry, was not an era where one defended honour through pacifism.

no photo
Sat 09/27/14 04:43 PM

Duttoneer's photo
Sun 09/28/14 03:41 AM


Good manners are not dead in my opinion, and respect begins with respecting yourself. If everyone now seeks 'Hookups' as he suggests then we are all on the wrong website, there are plenty which cater for those wanting that kind of relationship, and the internet is perfectly placed to bring those people together. Interesting that he sets himself apart from what he believes everyone else is engaged in. Romancing a woman with diner dates, chocolates, flowers has never been a hardship for men, but a pleasure, the thrill of the chase. I guess it's true to say there are some people looking for one night stands, but I disagree with his generalisations on what he thinks about women and men of today.

mysticalview21's photo
Sun 09/28/14 08:31 AM





cute and funny ... I do not believe it is dead either ... but only in some cases boys... men treat ...women girls badly ...
I have seen both ... and some of my experiences are good ...

mrld_ii's photo
Sun 09/28/14 08:46 AM
From the article as to why men behave the way they do:

"The real problem here is that women, for one reason or another, have become complacent and allowed men to get away with adhering to the bare minimum..."


We women are awesome...AND omnipotent!!! *Making* men the way they are today, almost *as if* they have no ability to be who/how/what they are, without our manipulating them into different shapes.


Be afraid, men...VERY afraid...lest we women continue *making* you behave in ways you really don't want to...


whoa



Conrad_73's photo
Sun 09/28/14 10:16 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/kolby-solinsky/chivalry-is-dead_b_4164337.htmllaugh

the Irish have a nice descriptive Term for Guys like John Picciuto.:laughing:

no1phD's photo
Sun 09/28/14 11:31 AM
one must remember back in the days of old... women weren't as plentiful as they are today..... so if a man wasn't on his best behavior.. and offended the lady... it could be a very long time before he has an opportunity.... to impress the next lady.. .. like maybe never....

valtheponytail35's photo
Sun 09/28/14 12:09 PM

one must remember back in the days of old... women weren't as plentiful as they are today..... so if a man wasn't on his best behavior.. and offended the lady... it could be a very long time before he has an opportunity.... to impress the next lady.. .. like maybe never....


BS. if you referring to mid-19 century then yeah marriage might have been a tough cookie but you had slaves to take care of your everyday business, and after abolition you still had maids.

no1phD's photo
Sun 09/28/14 12:10 PM
I was thinking more like 17th century....drinker

msharmony's photo
Sun 09/28/14 12:16 PM

Im surprised no one has blamed feminism yet. haha. thats usually what naturally happens.

As if chivalry was to pay a woman less than a man for the same job.


It has been blamed indirectly

depending upon the understanding of feminism,, when 'equal' means 'the same',,,,than making women THE SAME as men, has a lot to do with decline in ideals where either is cherished,,,ie,, chivalry that said men should cherish and protect women

feminism, MIGHT SAY, women can protect ourselves and open our own doors and therefore its CONDESCENDING to behave otherwise,,,,

no1phD's photo
Sun 09/28/14 12:20 PM
.. yep the day they burn their bras...
.. goodbye chivalry...lol

mrld_ii's photo
Sun 09/28/14 12:24 PM

Im surprised no one has blamed feminism yet. haha. thats usually what naturally happens.

As if chivalry was to pay a woman less than a man for the same job.



Someone did (as he always does):


After the women's liberation movement of the 1960s, which insisted on the equal treatment of women in all domains of life, feminists dismissed chivalry as sexist. They still do...



In order for "chivalry" TO exist, it requires that men see women as "lesser than" creatures TO themselves.


Thanks, but no thanks on "chivalry". People being decent to one another regardless of their sex or based simply on the odds of having sex, is quite good enough for me.





msharmony's photo
Sun 09/28/14 12:27 PM

.. yep the day they burn their bras...
.. goodbye chivalry...lol


not quite THAT direct or simple,, but, why burn bras when you can just choose not to buy or wear them,,,laugh

obipaul's photo
Sun 09/28/14 03:54 PM
chivalry is not dead it has been changed, in the historical context it was about defending the defenseless, today many interactions are not as violent as in the past, but the idea still remains.

jrt210369's photo
Mon 09/29/14 12:09 PM
I think the way we interpret 'chivalry' is a generation thing, ask a 65 year old to define how this looks and feels and then ask a 19 year old ?

At the end of the day though, I have to agree that in life we pretty much get what we deserve and a lot of us will find our mirror image?