just give them all mcdonald's outlet!!
speaking of mcdonald's, i'm going to go get a big mac! And think about this

Good luck with that.

I think I'd be a little sceptical of any publications by Greenpeace that are supposed to be fact, especially something from 13 years ago.

On the subject of animals having hard lives on farms etc., one thing I've noticed nowdays is that some people try to have us believe that animals are aware they are missing out on something great because they are being factory farmed instead of running wild in nature.
While it might gather sympathy for a cause and sound good etc., this simply isn't true.

Say you have a heard of cattle on a property/farm/ranch, been born & raised there and know no other life.
And you have another herd of cattle running wild.

While it might seem to humans that the cattle on the farm are worse off than the ones running wild, it doesn't seem that way to the cattle.
They don't know any different.
They're just being animals, day after day turning feed into crap & thinking about reproducing

I'm not saying animals don't have emotions though, quite a lot obviously do.
I think animals can also have instinctive reactions that can sometimes be mistaken by humans for emotion.
I'm also not saying animals don't suffer or feel pain, they do.

Jaxxxxxxxxx raised another good point there, I believe there's more than enough food to go around at present.
But so long as corporate greed exists, which will probably be forever, this food will never make it to those who cannot afford it.
And if all of a sudden all this food was to be distributed to everyone who needed it everywhere, imagine what the population explosion of humans would do to an already overpopulated world.

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I see what you are saying but I don't think that its a good justification to do so just because they don't know better.
They may not think of how their lives could of been in nature but if you look at those who been rescued from the industry you will notice a big change in their behavior.
Also there is a big reason why all the slaughter houses are far away from the public view. We get to go and buy the product without really knowing where it came from and what was in the process of turning a living thing into a product.
I wonder how many people will eat while watching a mass slaughter during their meal.I mean some people can't even stand the sight of blood.its easy to pay others to do the horrors we refuse to take part of.
Eat what you wish but at least be aware where your food comes from and what it had to go through before reaching your plate.cause most people have no clue they eat because they were told to.

It's no justification to mistreat an animal, but if the animals are looked after correctly then I don't see the issue.
I guess in different parts of the world they're treated differently.
Where I live in western Queensland it seems to me they're treated quite well.
I'm talking properties that are 10's of thousands of acres in size each and not overstocked.

Most of the farmers around here manage their land and stock quite well, if they didn't they'd probably be out of business by now.
One place I go to there's full grown Brahman cattle that I've known since they were born, they'll come right up for a scratch, jump around silly and play games with you most times they know you're out there, mistreated animals will not do those sorts of things.
But, when their time comes they'll be sent to be slaughtered as that's their destiny.

It's really just common sense to have abbatoirs away from the larger population areas.
Human beings nowdays can be pretty soft when it comes to their food.
Which is exactly why they pay others to do the dirty work they couldn't or won't do themselves.
I don't see any problem with that.

I believe most people eat because they're hungry, not because they're told to.
I'm well aware where my food comes from & the processes it goes through from paddock to plate, though I do agree a lot of people don't.
And when they find out some don't seem to be able to handle it very well & run around crying 'cruelty' etc...

Sadly most of them animals in the meat,eggs and dairy industry are so poorly mistreated.Sure there are many farms who grows them in good conditions and care.but they are the minority.
Being hungry has nothing to do with what you eat in the western world unless you are really poor.There are lots of alternatives.
does not seem to me its a hunger issue cause look at the number of obesity in our world.People eat much more than what their body is capable or need.

long live the animals....

RIP poor baby ...veal :(

Man I love my cats but eat most other animals legal, accepted or not, three Diamondback Rattlers in my freezer right now, but let me tell you right now if you ever tasted cat, you would see why they make better pets....yuck

PS: I LOVE Manatees also....they are great with grits and gravy!!

Make sure the pig is in a happy state of mind before its put down.

Are you Korean by chance?

My uncle owns a pig farm. When little, he let me choose one. I was there after school & fed it my leftovers. I'd wash the sty as well. I knew one day the pig aka "Mud" will be put down. He made money by selling it. So when the day came, I witness first hand when they shot Mud in the head. At that time, there were no demands of mass production i.e antibiotics & steroids injections. All I can say is know what you're eating & eat smart!

dogs and cats have been DOMESTICATED for the purpose of companionship

those that are still wild are part of the natural food chain and are eaten just like all other living things we call 'animals' when they are not protected or adopted by humans


its the circle of life

we can eat, as animals eat other animals, but as humans we can try to find the most effective ways to do it with the least unnecessary harm,,,

My solution: Soylent Green

science has the answer

there's nothing quite like a delicious
hormone injected chicken breast...um umph....love that popeyes...

When I grew up on the farm I would name orphan lambs Baa baa. I would get attach to them. When it came to meat on the plate my family would not tell me who we were eating. I understand now they are food and that is what they are there for so I have learnt not to name them or get attach. LOL

Would you eat your dog, Milo? Would you eat me? Wait, don't answer that. The intimacy forum was deactivated here.

I became a vegetarian in 2001 for health and moral reasons. Protein argument is bogus. There is plenty of that in other foods, such as bananas, beans, peanuts. All lame arguments for animal slaughter and cruel torture are simply null and void. It's a lifestyle which is wrong but since we have been exposed to it all our lives and it is a profit industry, we have been brainwashed to accept it.

Food chain argument is another bogus. The human organism was not meant to consume meat and meat corrupts the human organism, especially with all the hormones and chemicals which are used in meat preparation. Humans are naturally vegetarian but we became omnivorous because we could digest meat, although not very well.