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Be allowed at funerals and weddings without consent?
I was just watching a disorder in the court episode where cameramen were attacked by mourners at a funeral and I cant say I blame them for being upset. Do you think its an invasion of privacy for the news to cover intimate and personal moments like funerals or weddings? |
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I agree for funerals... What possible motives could there be to capture grief on film?
Some of the best weddings I've been to had 1 camera per table! 
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I agree for funerals... What possible motives could there be to capture grief on film? Some of the best weddings I've been to had 1 camera per table! yeah, the director or planner usually coordinates that with the family's consent though,,,, my first wedding had two camerapersons,,, |
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no I mean if you're in the spotlight..
you're in it all the time.. to death do you part..lol... but here's the thing I hate... I cannot video tape or take pictures of my children in a school concert... it has been band... apparently the sickos outweigh the majority...hmm.. next I will have to get consent from myself... to take a selfie.. I will have to have myself sign a disclosure form...lol |
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I think cameras should only be allowed if everyone promises to post them on Facebook for all the world to see!
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Growing up my dad was bad about taking pictures at funeral's. Somewhere I have pictures of my mother & grandfathers funeral.. To me they are morbid... I don't feel that anyone should take a picture at a funeral without the consent of the family.. I totally refused it at my dad's funeral even though some of them were use to doing so.
 As far as a wedding I don' feel the same. I feel that before and after pictures should be fine... During the wedding don't mess up the professionals pictures that are being taken. They don't want pictures of the guest taking pictures... At least give them your full attention at that time. 
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Be allowed at funerals and weddings without consent? I was just watching a disorder in the court episode where cameramen were attacked by mourners at a funeral and I cant say I blame them for being upset. Do you think its an invasion of privacy for the news to cover intimate and personal moments like funerals or weddings? very poor taste at a funeral at weddings only for the processional and recessional and NONE during the ceremony (except possibly for the photog hired by the bride) - and NO flashes in the church at any time after the recessional and at the reception...no holds barred. In this day and age, were I a bride I would send out photography & recording policy with the invites. |
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agree with everyone except tommy boy.
funerals are not a place for cameras it is a place for lovedones to mourn but weddings are a joyous occasion and should be shared.
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Should cameras... Be allowed at funerals and weddings without consent? Yes, I think cameras should be allowed everywhere the natural eyes can see except the bathroom and the bedroom unless consent is given in advance, of course. I was just watching a disorder in the court episode where cameramen were attacked by mourners at a funeral and I cant say I blame them for being upset. Do you think its an invasion of privacy for the news to cover intimate and personal moments like funerals or weddings? No, I don't think privacy can be expected if the wedding is held outside where anyone can wander up if the area isn't closed off. Even if the occasion is closed to the public zoom lenses can still see the intended clearly. For complete privacy without trespass ability stay indoors with restricted access. IMO. Funerals are public gatherings too and anyone within seeing eye distance who happens to have a camera should be free to take photos if they're so inclined. Why would the news (media) be treated any differently? For those that don't want to see who attends these types of personal events in a public forum, there are millions more that do, and the media is they're only means of access. Let me explain why I think this way... One of my ex's had a 15 year old son that hung himself. We were devastated. The funeral was in another state. We arrived before everyone else so I could get pictures of the boy in his coffin. I also took some of my ex looking down at his deceased child, it was all extremely sad and I was tearing up too because I loved the child. The pictures I took were very tasteful and not staged. On the 2nd anniversary of his son's death I went with my ex to visit the grave and took unstaged follow up pictures there too. Maybe some people think that memories about death and the pain it causes are morbid and best forgotten, but I think death is another stage of our lives that we all go through and recording their events for posterity helps us to heal as we look back. As for filming or taking stills of all those that come to honor someone's passing, what's wrong with that? Shouldn't our loved ones family and friends who came to honor the deceased memory be included in our photos so when we look back we can remember who was there and paid their respects? I carry several different types of cameras with me at all times becuz I'm an avid photo hound, never knowing when or where the perfect or most unusual shot will be found. So I guess I might be inclined to take a somewhat biased view of this topic. |
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Be allowed at funerals and weddings without consent? I was just watching a disorder in the court episode where cameramen were attacked by mourners at a funeral and I cant say I blame them for being upset. Do you think its an invasion of privacy for the news to cover intimate and personal moments like funerals or weddings? My own thoughts have always been no photos at a funeral, but everyone handles grief differently and if in some way this helps them to come to terms with their loss I see no objection. This does seem to fade in to insignificance when we think of the funerals of famous people being on TV but these are because not everyone wanting to attend can do so. Photos at weddings are a must and I cannot see a reason to object unless you are famous and want to sell photos of the big day to the Womens Magazines, quite a few celebs do this I guess it helps them pay for the event. |
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Edited by
sweetestgirl11
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Should cameras... Be allowed at funerals and weddings without consent? Yes, I think cameras should be allowed everywhere the natural eyes can see except the bathroom and the bedroom unless consent is given in advance, of course. I was just watching a disorder in the court episode where cameramen were attacked by mourners at a funeral and I cant say I blame them for being upset. Do you think its an invasion of privacy for the news to cover intimate and personal moments like funerals or weddings? No, I don't think privacy can be expected if the wedding is held outside where anyone can wander up if the area isn't closed off. Even if the occasion is closed to the public zoom lenses can still see the intended clearly. For complete privacy without trespass ability stay indoors with restricted access. IMO. Funerals are public gatherings too and anyone within seeing eye distance who happens to have a camera should be free to take photos if they're so inclined. Why would the news (media) be treated any differently? For those that don't want to see who attends these types of personal events in a public forum, there are millions more that do, and the media is they're only means of access. Let me explain why I think this way... One of my ex's had a 15 year old son that hung himself. We were devastated. The funeral was in another state. We arrived before everyone else so I could get pictures of the boy in his coffin. I also took some of my ex looking down at his deceased child, it was all extremely sad and I was tearing up too because I loved the child. The pictures I took were very tasteful and not staged. On the 2nd anniversary of his son's death I went with my ex to visit the grave and took unstaged follow up pictures there too. Maybe some people think that memories about death and the pain it causes are morbid and best forgotten, but I think death is another stage of our lives that we all go through and recording their events for posterity helps us to heal as we look back. As for filming or taking stills of all those that come to honor someone's passing, what's wrong with that? Shouldn't our loved ones family and friends who came to honor the deceased memory be included in our photos so when we look back we can remember who was there and paid their respects? I carry several different types of cameras with me at all times becuz I'm an avid photo hound, never knowing when or where the perfect or most unusual shot will be found. So I guess I might be inclined to take a somewhat biased view of this topic. it is not another's decision. the bride and her family set the rules for the place they pay for. they can also have NOSY ROSY removed from the church/ area (fired basically lol). many churches do not permit cameras/flashes and the priest will often state this at the beginning. You do not have a "right" to photograph anyone without their express permission. Nor the right to ruin a bride's day by ignoring her wishes. to think otherwise could get you into legal trouble and a rep for being disrespectful. I know I would not tolerate the attitude of a person thinking they can do whatever they want at my place/event. I simply would not invite such a person. even were they family. But if it was an outdoor event actions of non invitees are another thing. hopefully invited guests would respect the brides wishes. Others still risk legal action when trespassing |
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Should cameras... Be allowed at funerals and weddings without consent? Yes, I think cameras should be allowed everywhere the natural eyes can see except the bathroom and the bedroom unless consent is given in advance, of course. I was just watching a disorder in the court episode where cameramen were attacked by mourners at a funeral and I cant say I blame them for being upset. Do you think its an invasion of privacy for the news to cover intimate and personal moments like funerals or weddings? No, I don't think privacy can be expected if the wedding is held outside where anyone can wander up if the area isn't closed off. Even if the occasion is closed to the public zoom lenses can still see the intended clearly. For complete privacy without trespass ability stay indoors with restricted access. IMO. Funerals are public gatherings too and anyone within seeing eye distance who happens to have a camera should be free to take photos if they're so inclined. Why would the news (media) be treated any differently? For those that don't want to see who attends these types of personal events in a public forum, there are millions more that do, and the media is they're only means of access. Let me explain why I think this way... One of my ex's had a 15 year old son that hung himself. We were devastated. The funeral was in another state. We arrived before everyone else so I could get pictures of the boy in his coffin. I also took some of my ex looking down at his deceased child, it was all extremely sad and I was tearing up too because I loved the child. The pictures I took were very tasteful and not staged. On the 2nd anniversary of his son's death I went with my ex to visit the grave and took unstaged follow up pictures there too. Maybe some people think that memories about death and the pain it causes are morbid and best forgotten, but I think death is another stage of our lives that we all go through and recording their events for posterity helps us to heal as we look back. As for filming or taking stills of all those that come to honor someone's passing, what's wrong with that? Shouldn't our loved ones family and friends who came to honor the deceased memory be included in our photos so when we look back we can remember who was there and paid their respects? I carry several different types of cameras with me at all times becuz I'm an avid photo hound, never knowing when or where the perfect or most unusual shot will be found. So I guess I might be inclined to take a somewhat biased view of this topic. it is not your decision. the bride and her family set the rules for the place they pay for. they can also have you removed from the church (fired basically lol). many churches do not permit cameras/flashes and the priest will often state this at the beginning. You do not have a "right" to photograph anyone without their express permission. Nor the right to ruin a bride's day by ignoring her wishes. to think otherwise could get you into legal trouble and a rep for being disrespectful. I know I would not tolerate the attitude of a person thinking they can do whatever they want at my place/event. I simply would not invite such a person. even were they family. At your own place/event of course then it would be up to you to allow things as you have stated. I thought I made it clear that consent has to be gotten first. And I stand firm on all outdoor events that the public can see with their eyes. 
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I think that we're at a point technologically that glasses capable of recording in HD will probably be designed in the same style as regular ones now, so maybe there's no right or wrong, just inevitability.
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Should cameras... Be allowed at funerals and weddings without consent? Yes, I think cameras should be allowed everywhere the natural eyes can see except the bathroom and the bedroom unless consent is given in advance, of course. I was just watching a disorder in the court episode where cameramen were attacked by mourners at a funeral and I cant say I blame them for being upset. Do you think its an invasion of privacy for the news to cover intimate and personal moments like funerals or weddings? No, I don't think privacy can be expected if the wedding is held outside where anyone can wander up if the area isn't closed off. Even if the occasion is closed to the public zoom lenses can still see the intended clearly. For complete privacy without trespass ability stay indoors with restricted access. IMO. Funerals are public gatherings too and anyone within seeing eye distance who happens to have a camera should be free to take photos if they're so inclined. Why would the news (media) be treated any differently? For those that don't want to see who attends these types of personal events in a public forum, there are millions more that do, and the media is they're only means of access. Let me explain why I think this way... One of my ex's had a 15 year old son that hung himself. We were devastated. The funeral was in another state. We arrived before everyone else so I could get pictures of the boy in his coffin. I also took some of my ex looking down at his deceased child, it was all extremely sad and I was tearing up too because I loved the child. The pictures I took were very tasteful and not staged. On the 2nd anniversary of his son's death I went with my ex to visit the grave and took unstaged follow up pictures there too. Maybe some people think that memories about death and the pain it causes are morbid and best forgotten, but I think death is another stage of our lives that we all go through and recording their events for posterity helps us to heal as we look back. As for filming or taking stills of all those that come to honor someone's passing, what's wrong with that? Shouldn't our loved ones family and friends who came to honor the deceased memory be included in our photos so when we look back we can remember who was there and paid their respects? I carry several different types of cameras with me at all times becuz I'm an avid photo hound, never knowing when or where the perfect or most unusual shot will be found. So I guess I might be inclined to take a somewhat biased view of this topic. it is not your decision. the bride and her family set the rules for the place they pay for. they can also have you removed from the church (fired basically lol). many churches do not permit cameras/flashes and the priest will often state this at the beginning. You do not have a "right" to photograph anyone without their express permission. Nor the right to ruin a bride's day by ignoring her wishes. to think otherwise could get you into legal trouble and a rep for being disrespectful. I know I would not tolerate the attitude of a person thinking they can do whatever they want at my place/event. I simply would not invite such a person. even were they family. At your own place/event of course then it would be up to you to allow things as you have stated. I thought I made it clear that consent has to be gotten first. And I stand firm on all outdoor events that the public can see with their eyes. you can stand firm, but it does not mean you are safe legally or that others will not take offense. I guess on that one we will have to agree to disagree. Depending on the circumstances one still risks legal action, particularly if you are tresspassing or do not have permission, even outdoors. (think kate middleton's victory lawsuit). No, I guess I missed the part where you said something about obtaining consent - your post was pretty lengthy and honestly I didn't read the whole thing - just expressing my view. But I am certainly relieved to hear you say it. I am a very private person. I would never give permission except as I stated above so that is my bias. People who violate the privacy of others are the worst sort in my view, and I do not care for the media at all. So we all have our biases. Adult people with intelligence can usually work out case by case compromise of some kind (the media does not fit in this category)  |
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Be allowed at funerals and weddings without consent? I was just watching a disorder in the court episode where cameramen were attacked by mourners at a funeral and I cant say I blame them for being upset. Do you think its an invasion of privacy for the news to cover intimate and personal moments like funerals or weddings? My own thoughts have always been no photos at a funeral, but everyone handles grief differently and if in some way this helps them to come to terms with their loss I see no objection. This does seem to fade in to insignificance when we think of the funerals of famous people being on TV but these are because not everyone wanting to attend can do so. Photos at weddings are a must and I cannot see a reason to object unless you are famous and want to sell photos of the big day to the Womens Magazines, quite a few celebs do this I guess it helps them pay for the event. again, not your decision. it is at the descretion of the bride and the church's policy that decide |
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I think that we're at a point technologically that glasses capable of recording in HD will probably be designed in the same style as regular ones now, so maybe there's no right or wrong, just inevitability. there is always right and wrong when it comes to privacy. It is more a matter of respect & good taste or lack thereof. The reason that privacy/tresspassing laws exist is because certain segments of our society feel that their right to know about the details of someone's private life is more important than that person's right to privacy. WTF??? I mean who DO they think they are? lol Usually such folk have a hidden agenda of some sort. jmho |
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Edited by
AthenaRose2
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I think that we're at a point technologically that glasses capable of recording in HD will probably be designed in the same style as regular ones now, so maybe there's no right or wrong, just inevitability. I agree... and in our new advanced world of technology assisted living you'd think people would get used to the fact that privacy is a thing of the past... ... and rather than getting offended over every little thing that can be construed as an intrusion, embrace our new found liberty to electronically capture what our eyes can easily see in public places. Also, if there's any objections because people don't want to be caught doing anything embarrassing then we'll have to learn not to put ourselves in any situations we might regret if it's saved on film. regardless, I don't see what the big deal is... if we're doing something in public that everyone can see with their eyes then taking a picture to save the moment and memory isn't violating anyone's privacy. I think the hysteria may be more about people who have a habit of being controlling... and these types expect everybody around them to concede to their way of thinking and being... and if someone dares to cross the lines set by the controllers they lose their shiiiit and freak out... btw... I haven't read what anybody else on this thread has said about this topic except msharmony's... and of course those directing their comments towards me... and PP's too that is...  |
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It is my belief that a funeral is a time for grief. Most people wouldn't want people with cameras taking pictures or filming them during their most venerable moments, such as during a funeral. With that said...How would you feel about paparazzi who would take a picture and sell it for profit? What about taking a picture of an accident scene where your child was killed? What if your child's body was in the picture and it was posted on the evening news and in tomorrow's newspaper?
Breaking news!!! Multi-vehicle accident, with fatalities, at the city line! With a picture of your child's car and their body visible? THEN...The police knock on your door. I believe in the right to take pictures...But there has to be limits called responsibility, respect and common decency. |
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Edited by
AthenaRose2
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Should cameras... Be allowed at funerals and weddings without consent? Yes, I think cameras should be allowed everywhere the natural eyes can see except the bathroom and the bedroom unless consent is given in advance, of course. I was just watching a disorder in the court episode where cameramen were attacked by mourners at a funeral and I cant say I blame them for being upset. Do you think its an invasion of privacy for the news to cover intimate and personal moments like funerals or weddings? No, I don't think privacy can be expected if the wedding is held outside where anyone can wander up if the area isn't closed off. Even if the occasion is closed to the public zoom lenses can still see the intended clearly. For complete privacy without trespass ability stay indoors with restricted access. IMO. Funerals are public gatherings too and anyone within seeing eye distance who happens to have a camera should be free to take photos if they're so inclined. Why would the news (media) be treated any differently? For those that don't want to see who attends these types of personal events in a public forum, there are millions more that do, and the media is they're only means of access. Let me explain why I think this way... One of my ex's had a 15 year old son that hung himself. We were devastated. The funeral was in another state. We arrived before everyone else so I could get pictures of the boy in his coffin. I also took some of my ex looking down at his deceased child, it was all extremely sad and I was tearing up too because I loved the child. The pictures I took were very tasteful and not staged. On the 2nd anniversary of his son's death I went with my ex to visit the grave and took unstaged follow up pictures there too. Maybe some people think that memories about death and the pain it causes are morbid and best forgotten, but I think death is another stage of our lives that we all go through and recording their events for posterity helps us to heal as we look back. As for filming or taking stills of all those that come to honor someone's passing, what's wrong with that? Shouldn't our loved ones family and friends who came to honor the deceased memory be included in our photos so when we look back we can remember who was there and paid their respects? I carry several different types of cameras with me at all times becuz I'm an avid photo hound, never knowing when or where the perfect or most unusual shot will be found. So I guess I might be inclined to take a somewhat biased view of this topic. it is not your decision. the bride and her family set the rules for the place they pay for. they can also have you removed from the church (fired basically lol). many churches do not permit cameras/flashes and the priest will often state this at the beginning. You do not have a "right" to photograph anyone without their express permission. Nor the right to ruin a bride's day by ignoring her wishes. to think otherwise could get you into legal trouble and a rep for being disrespectful. I know I would not tolerate the attitude of a person thinking they can do whatever they want at my place/event. I simply would not invite such a person. even were they family. At your own place/event of course then it would be up to you to allow things as you have stated. I thought I made it clear that consent has to be gotten first. And I stand firm on all outdoor events that the public can see with their eyes. you can stand firm, but it does not mean you are safe legally or that others will not take offense. I guess on that one we will have to agree to disagree. Depending on the circumstances one still risks legal action, particularly if you are tresspassing or do not have permission, even outdoors. (think kate middleton's victory lawsuit). No, I guess I missed the part where you said something about obtaining consent - your post was pretty lengthy and honestly I didn't read the whole thing - just expressing my view. But I am certainly relieved to hear you say it. I am a very private person. I would never give permission except as I stated above so that is my bias. People who violate the privacy of others are the worst sort in my view, and I do not care for the media at all. So we all have our biases. Adult people with intelligence can usually work out case by case compromise of some kind (the media does not fit in this category) My prior consent statement was in the very first sentence so there was no need to read the entire text to find it... I think we're ALL private people to one extent or another, but when we're in public, anywhere and everywhere in public we ALL stand the chance of having our photos taken without our consent. Its a fact of modern day life. Take for instance all the cameras watching us in traffic so driving violations can be seen, documented and fines sent out through the mail. Most of us are so oblivious when we're driving that we don't pay that much attention to how often we're photographed w/o our consent. IMO. Imagine how many people are captured maybe picking their noses at a red light, or beating their unruly children in the back seat... What about the video cameras in stores or on the street to watch every move we make inside and outside... I guess we need to start protesting and demanding these cameras be taken down because we don't like our public privacy documented...  Or is it just private citizens you object to taking videos and stills of other private citizens when we're in public and in full view of those all around us? |
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Edited by
IceCreeme
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I dont really care. I have been to a wedding a few months ago and to a funeral last week. Everyone took Pics. It is "NOT" thought of being a 'confidential' kind of thing in Australia.
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