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Topic: Statutory rape should not be a legal issue.
alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 03/08/14 05:19 AM
lol, you should be apologizing for being a liberal... I might if I had anything about it to apologize for. As it is, I helped save the country from the presidencies of John McCain and Mitt Romney. You're welcome. As if they would be something to be proud of, I shunned two idiots but supported the egotistical idiot that put the finishing touch on a great countries destruction. And no I'm not welcome because what I would have to say would contain a you, but thanks would not be the operative word.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 03/08/14 05:25 AM
I know someone that happened to and they have to register as a sex offender. He was 18 at the time, she was 16 and they were both in High School. It's complete BS Isn't that the same government that you so adamantly defend? Don't tell me they are repressive, couldn't happen, could it? Have you written Reid and McCain to complain? I'm sure they would care.

alnewman Joined Sat 12/14/13 Posts: 4009	Sat 03/08/14 12:52 PM
I think it would be great if parents could actually parent their children. If there is a law that supports that, more is the better. Ah but you can, all you need to do is learn the law. You don't need new ones, just learn to negate the bad ones.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sat 03/08/14 02:04 PM
Consent is consent. There are ******* out there who will gladly have sex with a man they know will be charged under this dumb law and then report him for statutory rape. It's ridiculous that you can be 18 and have sex with a 17-year-old the day before they turn 18 and be charged with statutory rape. I am just giving an example since the ages for this law vary everywhere. People who work in the legal system love saying "Oh, they're too young to make such a big decision for themselves, they can't consent..." WTF?! So they can't consent to have sex, but at age 14 they can have an abortion and the people working at the clinic won't even tell their parents??? IT'S DISGUSTING!!!!! I support the statutory rape law because it is designed to protect people from being "unfairly" talked into having sex due to naivety...Statutory rape laws are made at state level and are based on a "mean" mental age at which a person can make an informed decision to engage or not engage in sexual conduct with a person of legal age...The reason the age varies from state to state is because states legislators try to choose an age that best fits their community...Even though the statutory rape law is not a perfect law, I think it is better than having no law because it is designed to protect children...If the person of legal age chooses to ignore the law in their state, that person should face the consequence even if the person under the legal age consented to the act...

vanaheim Joined Sun 12/29/13 Posts: 531	Sat 03/08/14 02:50 PM Edited by vanaheim on Sat 03/08/14 02:52 PM
Laws are limited. Having a rule of law means that you have to use the same laws for everybody. It also means you have to use a limited number of written laws for every situation. No set of words is capable of doing either very accurately. A painting would be better. If the laws were drawn as paintings instead of written in words we would all understand them much better. But they couldn't be used in a court anymore. So all laws are going to be imperfect. It is the role of the court to interpret the law and apply it to a specific situation and people. When you have a consenting 16yr old having sex with a 25yr old and in that state it is statutory rape, and the girl's conservative parents pressed charges on her behalf as a minor... What happens is the judge is supposed to sentence only a slap on the wrist and a conviction (eg. a suspended sentence or time already served in remand). FYI this is also the reason some civil rights groups and the authorities are against publicly accessible sexual offenders registries, there is no governing of leniency for reasonable situations that were still recorded as convictions due to imperfect laws. But, when you have a 16yr old that is perhaps mentally retarded, who is bullied into consenting for sex by a predatory 25yr old drug dealer that lives down the street, well the judge can hand down maximum penalties for that statutory rape even if they can't get the arsehole on drug charges yet. So that's the time the imperfect law is working for you. Legally, the way that statutory rape came about is because of a medical term called "qualified consent" or "informed consent", meaning you have to be mentally capable of consenting to consent, even if you consent verbally. Otherwise the decision of consent defaults to a guardian or blood family. Statutory rape is designed to protect people who can't protect themselves, it is not designed to seek out evil alien invaders amongst us called "criminals" and destroy them. Laws are to protect. But are imperfect.

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Sat 03/08/14 03:10 PM
Laws are limited. Having a rule of law means that you have to use the same laws for everybody. It also means you have to use a limited number of written laws for every situation. No set of words is capable of doing either very accurately. A painting would be better. If the laws were drawn as paintings instead of written in words we would all understand them much better. But they couldn't be used in a court anymore. So all laws are going to be imperfect. It is the role of the court to interpret the law and apply it to a specific situation and people. When you have a consenting 16yr old having sex with a 25yr old and in that state it is statutory rape, and the girl's conservative parents pressed charges on her behalf as a minor... What happens is the judge is supposed to sentence only a slap on the wrist and a conviction (eg. a suspended sentence or time already served in remand). FYI this is also the reason some civil rights groups and the authorities are against publicly accessible sexual offenders registries, there is no governing of leniency for reasonable situations that were still recorded as convictions due to imperfect laws. But, when you have a 16yr old that is perhaps mentally retarded, who is bullied into consenting for sex by a predatory 25yr old drug dealer that lives down the street, well the judge can hand down maximum penalties for that statutory rape even if they can't get the arsehole on drug charges yet. So that's the time the imperfect law is working for you. Legally, the way that statutory rape came about is because of a medical term called "qualified consent" or "informed consent", meaning you have to be mentally capable of consenting to consent, even if you consent verbally. Otherwise the decision of consent defaults to a guardian or blood family. Statutory rape is designed to protect people who can't protect themselves, it is not designed to seek out evil alien invaders amongst us called "criminals" and destroy them. Laws are to protect. But are imperfect. Thank you

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 03/08/14 05:57 PM
I know someone that happened to and they have to register as a sex offender. He was 18 at the time, she was 16 and they were both in High School. It's complete BS Isn't that the same government that you so adamantly defend? Don't tell me they are repressive, couldn't happen, could it? Have you written Reid and McCain to complain? I'm sure they would care. Every Government has it's flaws, but I will defend my Government and my country.

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 03/08/14 05:57 PM
lol, you should be apologizing for being a liberal... I might if I had anything about it to apologize for. As it is, I helped save the country from the presidencies of John McCain and Mitt Romney. You're welcome. That's not something to brag about........... Just sayin'

Lpdon Joined Thu 02/25/10 Posts: 18772	Sat 03/08/14 06:01 PM
i still blame the liberals... Yes, it's a real drag that the Libs are getting between you and your teenage lover. On behalf of all liberals, I apologize for being a cock-blocker. LOL lol, you should be apologizing for being a liberal... It should be a crime to be a Liberal.

Viper1j Joined Tue 12/04/12 Posts: 803	Sat 03/08/14 11:37 PM Edited by Viper1j on Sat 03/08/14 11:38 PM
Consent is consent. There are ******* out there who will gladly have sex with a man they know will be charged under this dumb law and then report him for statutory rape. It's ridiculous that you can be 18 and have sex with a 17-year-old the day before they turn 18 and be charged with statutory rape. I am just giving an example since the ages for this law vary everywhere. People who work in the legal system love saying "Oh, they're too young to make such a big decision for themselves, they can't consent..." WTF?! So they can't consent to have sex, but at age 14 they can have an abortion and the people working at the clinic won't even tell their parents??? IT'S DISGUSTING!!!!! More waffles than IHOP. Take that same "child" put a Uzi in their hands and send them to the mall. Watch how fast they run to flip the magic "adult" switch. All of a sudden, they're magically grownups. But that "child" can't have sex without being "raped". They're or children, or they're adults. Pick a side and stick to it hypocrites.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 03/09/14 12:43 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 03/09/14 12:44 AM
lol, you should be apologizing for being a liberal... I might if I had anything about it to apologize for. As it is, I helped save the country from the presidencies of John McCain and Mitt Romney. You're welcome. but putting the present Tool into the White House TWICE? That's like amputating your Arm at your Shoulder for a Papercut on your Little Finger!

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Sun 03/09/14 12:52 AM Edited by Conrad_73 on Sun 03/09/14 12:53 AM
People living in a Society,DO need certain Rules of Conduct! Whether they are accepted Voluntarily,or COERCED by armed Thugs is a different question all together!

sweetestgirl11 Joined Fri 09/12/08 Posts: 30087	Sun 03/09/14 05:45 PM
not only should statutory rape laws remain but they should be strengthened. If you are an adult and not certain your partner is Old Enough under the law, then they probably are not old enough and you have no biznezz there....under the law or otherwise. If you are having sex with someone you do not know well enough to know enough about them to know their age you are probably in the wrong. period. If you take that chance you may pay the piper. be ready....most guys know the law here so no sympathy plus there are other related deliquency of a minor charges here if a 14 y/o is having an abortion she should have to declare the father to do so...and if he over 18....come on out shootin' just my thought

Viper1j Joined Tue 12/04/12 Posts: 803	Sun 03/09/14 11:34 PM
not only should statutory rape laws remain but they should be strengthened. If you are an adult and not certain your partner is Old Enough under the law, then they probably are not old enough and you have no biznezz there....under the law or otherwise. If you are having sex with someone you do not know well enough to know enough about them to know their age you are probably in the wrong. period. If you take that chance you may pay the piper. be ready....most guys know the law here so no sympathy plus there are other related deliquency of a minor charges here if a 14 y/o is having an abortion she should have to declare the father to do so...and if he over 18....come on out shootin' just my thought And you were carded before you got naked when? Sex is not buying booze. Let's switch the flip. You're in a club and you seeone hot checking you out. Theysend the waitress over to you with a drink before they approach you. You spend the night drinking with them, and take them home, only to find out the next morning, that they're late for school. Turns out you just bedded a 16 year old wearing beer (or martini) goggles. How much time should you do?

Mortman Joined Tue 05/01/12 Posts: 1493	Mon 03/10/14 02:40 AM Edited by Mortman on Mon 03/10/14 02:43 AM
lol, you should be apologizing for being a liberal... I might if I had anything about it to apologize for. As it is, I helped save the country from the presidencies of John McCain and Mitt Romney. You're welcome. but putting the present Tool into the White House TWICE? That's like amputating your Arm at your Shoulder for a Papercut on your Little Finger! Way off. President Obama is a fine president. He'd be much better if the Republicans weren't such whiny ******* and actually worked with him to fix problems, but that's another thread. The simple fact is that any election is always a choice. You didn't like Obama, but the alternative was an old Navy pilot, past his prime who was a "maverick" that had to suspend his campaign to fly to Washington and sit in on some meetings, while Obama showed the sense of placing some phone calls and carrying on. Also, Obama had answers for the problems and even posted them on his website. McCain only said he had answers, but couldn't give any specifics. Those were the only real choices. Do you need reasons not to vote for Willard Romney? Again, you're welcome.

oldsage Joined Thu 09/14/06 Posts: 18043	Mon 03/10/14 05:03 AM
Common decency & personal MORALS, with a little personal religion SHOULD be the standard. Unfortunatly, there is always some people that don't believe in those things. Before attorneys the local folks decided what was allowed & what wasn't. Politics have nothing to do with this subject. I think we need to bring back more of the old ways & inforce the law, the way it used to be. A rope & a tree limb or found dead along the trail. Either way, it was the local people that decided things, NOT who had the most money, to buy the best ATTORNEY.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 03/10/14 05:11 AM
lol, you should be apologizing for being a liberal... I might if I had anything about it to apologize for. As it is, I helped save the country from the presidencies of John McCain and Mitt Romney. You're welcome. but putting the present Tool into the White House TWICE? That's like amputating your Arm at your Shoulder for a Papercut on your Little Finger! Way off. President Obama is a fine president. He'd be much better if the Republicans weren't such whiny ******* and actually worked with him to fix problems, but that's another thread. The simple fact is that any election is always a choice. You didn't like Obama, but the alternative was an old Navy pilot, past his prime who was a "maverick" that had to suspend his campaign to fly to Washington and sit in on some meetings, while Obama showed the sense of placing some phone calls and carrying on. Also, Obama had answers for the problems and even posted them on his website. McCain only said he had answers, but couldn't give any specifics. Those were the only real choices. Do you need reasons not to vote for Willard Romney? Again, you're welcome. yep,definitely WAY OFF! Lose those Pink Specs and join reality!

Leigh2154 Joined Sun 10/02/11 Posts: 16479	Mon 03/10/14 06:41 AM
not only should statutory rape laws remain but they should be strengthened. If you are an adult and not certain your partner is Old Enough under the law, then they probably are not old enough and you have no biznezz there....under the law or otherwise. If you are having sex with someone you do not know well enough to know enough about them to know their age you are probably in the wrong. period. If you take that chance you may pay the piper. be ready....most guys know the law here so no sympathy plus there are other related deliquency of a minor charges here if a 14 y/o is having an abortion she should have to declare the father to do so...and if he over 18....come on out shootin' just my thought And you were carded before you got naked when? Sex is not buying booze. Let's switch the flip. You're in a club and you seeone hot checking you out. Theysend the waitress over to you with a drink before they approach you. You spend the night drinking with them, and take them home, only to find out the next morning, that they're late for school. Turns out you just bedded a 16 year old wearing beer (or martini) goggles. How much time should you do? Whatever the judge decides based on that states requirements and the merits of case as presented....If you are stupid enough to let a minor pick you up, if you are dumb enough to have sex with a stranger, you could find yourself in a similar predicament....

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Mon 03/10/14 07:50 AM
Then there's the case of stupidity on the Judges side. Two kids are hanging out together since she was 12 and he was 14. They have sex when she is 15. They have sex again on his 18th birthday, have a fight and she wants statutory rape charges pressed. He gets convicted, has to register as an offender and has this stigma follow him for life. I've read court cases where Judges do just that.

Conrad_73 Joined Sat 09/29/07 Posts: 22488	Mon 03/10/14 08:03 AM
Then there's the case of stupidity on the Judges side. Two kids are hanging out together since she was 12 and he was 14. They have sex when she is 15. They have sex again on his 18th birthday, have a fight and she wants statutory rape charges pressed. He gets convicted, has to register as an offender and has this stigma follow him for life. I've read court cases where Judges do just that. seems it's time to overhaul those Laws! We finally did here,and also added an Exception-Clause if the Age is close! The age of consent in Switzerland is 16, as specified by the Swiss Federal Criminal Code, Article 187(1). However, there exists a close in age exception if the difference between the ages of the participants is three years or less (Article 187(2)).