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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Sun 12/08/13 07:37 PM
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Obamacare Will Be Repealed Well In Advance Of The 2014 Elections Forbes: Prediction: even if HealthCare.gov is fixed by the end of the month (unlikely), Obamacare is going to be repealed well in advance of next year's election. And if the website continues to fail, the push for repeal - from endangered Democrats - ��will occur very rapidly. The website is a sideshow: the real action is the number of people and businesses who are losing their health plans or having to pay a lot more. Fixing the website will only delay the inevitable. http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevenhayward/2013/11/11/obamacare-will-be-repealed-well-in-advance-of-the-2014-elections/ |
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Yeah, right.
Someone is dreaming, because President Obama isn't about to sign a bill that repeals Obamacare, and Congressional Republicans don't have enough votes to override a presidential veto. |
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And Obama will be impeached.
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Edited by
Sojourning_Soul
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Mon 12/09/13 07:46 AM
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Yeah, right.
Someone is dreaming, because President Obama isn't about to sign a bill that repeals Obamacare, and Congressional Republicans don't have enough votes to override a presidential veto. I have never been able to adopt a defeatist attitude..... just not in my nature. Many things I hope for I may never achieve, but I don't give up striving for something better or closer to my goal, accepting a reasonable option if my best effort has been applied. I am but one vote, but I am not alone, therefore possibilty exists. |
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Yeah, right.
Someone is dreaming, because President Obama isn't about to sign a bill that repeals Obamacare, and Congressional Republicans don't have enough votes to override a presidential veto. If enough democrats fear for their jobs and jump ship the house and senate can override his veto. |
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And Obama will be impeached.
As I said, someone is dreaming.
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Yeah, right.
Someone is dreaming, because President Obama isn't about to sign a bill that repeals Obamacare, and Congressional Republicans don't have enough votes to override a presidential veto. If enough democrats fear for their jobs and jump ship the house and senate can override his veto. Yeah, rats have a tendency to abandon a sinking ship.
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Yeah, right.
Someone is dreaming, because President Obama isn't about to sign a bill that repeals Obamacare, and Congressional Republicans don't have enough votes to override a presidential veto. They might depending on how much pressure certain Democrats who are up for re-election are under. |
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And Obama will be impeached.
I wish, but I don't see that happening. I have more hope that he will be jailed once the next Administration uncovers all of the crimes and lies that we don't know about and of course the massive crimes and lies that we do know about. |
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Yeah, right.
Someone is dreaming, because President Obama isn't about to sign a bill that repeals Obamacare, and Congressional Republicans don't have enough votes to override a presidential veto. If enough democrats fear for their jobs and jump ship the house and senate can override his veto. Yeah, rats have a tendency to abandon a sinking ship.
And roaches don't like sunlight and the sun is shining bright on these yayhoos. |
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And Obama will be impeached.
As I said, someone is dreaming.
Impeachment doesn't mean he will be removed from office. 
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Yeah, right.
Someone is dreaming, because President Obama isn't about to sign a bill that repeals Obamacare, and Congressional Republicans don't have enough votes to override a presidential veto. If enough democrats fear for their jobs and jump ship the house and senate can override his veto. Also, Republicans have got nothing to replace it with. However, Bernie Sanders introduced a bill to replace Obamacare with a single-payer plan. So, there's that. |
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Yeah, right.
Someone is dreaming, because President Obama isn't about to sign a bill that repeals Obamacare, and Congressional Republicans don't have enough votes to override a presidential veto. If enough democrats fear for their jobs and jump ship the house and senate can override his veto. Also, Republicans have got nothing to replace it with. However, Bernie Sanders introduced a bill to replace Obamacare with a single-payer plan. So, there's that. I am so lucky (at least for another year) that Blue Cross Blue Shield re-instated my silver policy...I'll gladly pay the $415 a month...an EQUIVALENT Obamacare plan is a whopping $268.35 per month higher premium...on the Obamacare plan my deductible if $500 higher, trip to er is $100 more, and out of pocket limit is $3,350 more...even the copays are about $5 each higher...most of the bronze plan in NC carry co insurance not co pay for a simple er visit...this means a trip to the er could cost u up to the deductible...and the deductibles range from $3000 to $5000 dollars...it is the same way on the basic silver plan too...believe me, when people start using their new Obamnacare policy next year all hell is gonna breakout when they realize what is not covered...everybody doesn't qualify for a subsidy...and unfortunately, those that do will probably opt for the lower cost policies not realizing that for anything more than a cold or a preventative check it will cost them thousands of $$$ to be sick or injured...of course, they won't be able to pay the bills so Obamacare will be a total failure...and the voters just might send a strong message... |
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And Obama will be impeached.
As I said, someone is dreaming.
Impeachment doesn't mean he will be removed from office.
It does if both Houses vote too. It would be nice to see the House impeach him like they did Clinton. It would be a fitting end to a horrible legacy of a President. |
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Yeah, right.
Someone is dreaming, because President Obama isn't about to sign a bill that repeals Obamacare, and Congressional Republicans don't have enough votes to override a presidential veto. If enough democrats fear for their jobs and jump ship the house and senate can override his veto. Also, Republicans have got nothing to replace it with. However, Bernie Sanders introduced a bill to replace Obamacare with a single-payer plan. So, there's that. Jobs numbers don't mean anything, the fact that most people didn't want it in the first place makes em look pretty bad. add in certain senators wanting to give exemptions to their staff doesn't help and once the majority actually look at the numbers they're gonna be paying does not bode well for em. The democrats will go into 2014 flapping their gums about the need for more gun control and trying to convince, once again, how great Obozocare is and I welcome this and hope they really push these issues hard. |
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lets hope it is repealed
the system we had was already working so well 
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lets hope it is repealed the system we had was already working so well
From PBS Newshour: Beginning some time in October, I actually had just gotten my rate renewal for my current plan. My premiums had gone up to $297 a month. The deductible of $2,700 was still the same. The out-of-pocket maximum expenses of $3,200 was still the same. But my premium had just gone up a little bit.
And a couple weeks later, I got another letter from CareFirst telling me that that policy didn't qualify under the Affordable Care Act, and that by next October, at the time of my renewal, that policy was going to be canceled. I nearly fell off the chair because, for years, all I had heard from President Obama, if you like your policy, you can keep your policy; if you like your doctors, you can keep your doctors. I have excellent coverage with the plan I now have. I have hospitalization, and doctor care, and labs, and blood tests, physical therapy, ambulance, hospitalization. I mean, everything is included in this plan that I feel I would need. It is a PPO, which I really wanted to be in, and I'm perfectly satisfied with this plan. So, once I received this letter from CareFirst, I was completely shocked. I could not figure out what was happening, and then I started the process of trying to find out what the new available policies were. What I found in the bronze level, not the platinum level, in the bronze level, there's a PPO HSA policy that, between the higher premiums and the much higher maximum out-of-pocket costs, will cost me probably more than $5,000 a year more than what I'm already paying for health insurance. It's been a total sticker shock. I have had some health issues this year, and I have had to reduce some of my workload. It's a real hardship right now. My husband is 67 years old. I'm 58. We are desperately trying to save for retirement. As I said, we are both self-employed, so we don't have a pension from some company. And $5,000 more a year is not pocket change. You know, it's really going to affect us. And now it makes no difference that we tried to cut back on other expenses, because it's all going to be absorbed by the new health care policy. The representative told me to look in the booklet that they had sent me, and I looked in the booklet. And in that booklet is a list of services that the ACA covers. Well, I have every one of those services, except maternity coverage and pediatric care. Now, I am 58 years old. The chance of me having a child at this age is zero. So, you know, I ask the president, why do I have to pay an additional $5,000 a year for maternity coverage that I will never, ever need? |
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its still a free market, she can continue to shop around,,,
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I don't recall Clinton being impeached. Did I miss or forget something?
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Mon 12/16/13 02:34 AM
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I don't recall Clinton being impeached. Did I miss or forget something? Yep,he was,but not convicted! Impeachment happens in the House,and if it is accepted by the Majority,there will be a Trial in the Senate,with the Chief-Justice of the US Supremecourt presiding over the Trial! ---------------- Impeachment in the United States is an expressed power of the legislature that allows for formal charges against a civil officer of government for crimes committed in office. The actual trial on those charges, and subsequent removal of an official on conviction on those charges, is separate from the act of impeachment itself. Impeachment is analogous to indictment in regular court proceedings, while trial by the other house is analogous to the trial before judge and jury in regular courts. Typically, the lower house of the legislature will impeach the official and the upper house will conduct the trial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States At the federal level, Article II of the United States Constitution (Section 4) states that "The President, Vice President, and all civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High Crimes and Misdemeanors." The House of Representatives has the sole power of impeaching, while the United States Senate has the sole power to try all impeachments. The removal of impeached officials is automatic upon conviction in the Senate. In Nixon v. United States (1993), the Supreme Court determined that the federal judiciary cannot review such proceedings. Impeachment can also occur at the state level; state legislatures can impeach state officials, including governors, according to their respective state constitutions. At the Philadelphia Convention, Benjamin Franklin noted that, historically, the removal of obnoxious chief executives had been accomplished by assassination. Franklin suggested that a proceduralized mechanism for removal impeachment would be preferable.[1]WIKI |
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