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Topic: The ACA Will Be Repealed before 2014 election
Conrad_73's photo
Mon 12/16/13 02:38 AM
Repeal that Crappy Thing!
We gladly let you use our Swiss-System!laugh

izzyphoto1977's photo
Mon 12/16/13 02:47 AM
So he just wasn't given the final boot then. I was pretty sure he finished his last term. I personally didn't see the point in booting him for sleeping around as I doubt it interfered with his job. Who knows it may have made his work easier having relieved some stress. lol

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Mon 12/16/13 07:09 AM


lets hope it is repealed

the system we had was already working so well laugh laugh


From PBS Newshour:

Beginning some time in October, I actually had just gotten my rate renewal for my current plan. My premiums had gone up to $297 a month. The deductible of $2,700 was still the same. The out-of-pocket maximum expenses of $3,200 was still the same. But my premium had just gone up a little bit.

And a couple weeks later, I got another letter from CareFirst telling me that that policy didn't qualify under the Affordable Care Act, and that by next October, at the time of my renewal, that policy was going to be canceled. I nearly fell off the chair because, for years, all I had heard from President Obama, if you like your policy, you can keep your policy; if you like your doctors, you can keep your doctors.

I have excellent coverage with the plan I now have. I have hospitalization, and doctor care, and labs, and blood tests, physical therapy, ambulance, hospitalization. I mean, everything is included in this plan that I feel I would need.

It is a PPO, which I really wanted to be in, and I'm perfectly satisfied with this plan. So, once I received this letter from CareFirst, I was completely shocked. I could not figure out what was happening, and then I started the process of trying to find out what the new available policies were.

What I found in the bronze level, not the platinum level, in the bronze level, there's a PPO HSA policy that, between the higher premiums and the much higher maximum out-of-pocket costs, will cost me probably more than $5,000 a year more than what I'm already paying for health insurance.

It's been a total sticker shock. I have had some health issues this year, and I have had to reduce some of my workload. It's a real hardship right now. My husband is 67 years old. I'm 58. We are desperately trying to save for retirement.

As I said, we are both self-employed, so we don't have a pension from some company. And $5,000 more a year is not pocket change. You know, it's really going to affect us. And now it makes no difference that we tried to cut back on other expenses, because it's all going to be absorbed by the new health care policy.

The representative told me to look in the booklet that they had sent me, and I looked in the booklet. And in that booklet is a list of services that the ACA covers. Well, I have every one of those services, except maternity coverage and pediatric care. Now, I am 58 years old.

The chance of me having a child at this age is zero. So, you know, I ask the president, why do I have to pay an additional $5,000 a year for maternity coverage that I will never, ever need?



this scenario is highly representative of those that already HAD INSURANCE and whose policies were cancelled because of Obamacare...some states reinstated those policies for 1 year...saving people thousands of dollars for 2014...Obamacare plans can't even come close to matching premiums, deductibles, or coverage...if one is on the lower end of the income scale for the subsidies one might save $100 a month on the premium (4 an equivalent Obamacare plan)compared to one that already had a plan that would have renewed if not for Obamacare...everyone got their 2014 premium from the plan they had so it was easy to compare plans with Obamacare plans...and Obamacare plans SUCK...premium, deductibles, and coverage...and the website.

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Mon 12/16/13 07:18 AM

its still a free market, she can continue to shop around,,,


I have spent days/probably weeks shopping around...I had a plan...it was cancelled...luckily NC reinstated our plans...Obamacare plans r not equivalent to the old plans which would have been renewed......I got my 2014 rate and know what my coverage was and no obamacare plan even comes close...unless u want to pay a whole lot more for same coverage...

not a free market if u can't buy insurance across state lines...

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Mon 12/16/13 08:08 AM

So he just wasn't given the final boot then. I was pretty sure he finished his last term. I personally didn't see the point in booting him for sleeping around as I doubt it interfered with his job. Who knows it may have made his work easier having relieved some stress. lol


actually they impeached him for lying under Oath!

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Mon 12/16/13 08:12 AM


So he just wasn't given the final boot then. I was pretty sure he finished his last term. I personally didn't see the point in booting him for sleeping around as I doubt it interfered with his job. Who knows it may have made his work easier having relieved some stress. lol


actually they impeached him for lying under Oath!


"I never had sex with that girl"....laugh

Smartazzjohn's photo
Mon 12/16/13 08:27 AM

its still a free market, she can continue to shop around,,,



We can shop for policies that meet the GOVERMENTS idea of what we need, not what we really need. Do I need maternity care? NOPE!! Do I need pediatric dental or vision coverage? Nope!!! Do I HAVE to pay for something I don't need if I want health insurance? YES!!

Why? The government has determined that as a 59 y/o male there is a high likelihood I will give birth to a child and I will need dental and vision care for said child.

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Mon 12/16/13 08:27 AM
Edited by Smartazzjohn on Mon 12/16/13 08:32 AM
It won't be repealed. SMH

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Mon 12/16/13 08:31 AM

its still a free market, she can continue to shop around,,,



We can shop for policies that meet the GOVERMENTS idea of what we need, not what we really need. Do I need maternity care? NOPE!! Do I need pediatric dental or vision coverage? Nope!!! Do I HAVE to pay for something I don't need if I want health insurance? YES!!

Why? The government has determined that as a 59 y/o male there is a high likelihood I will give birth to a child and I will need dental and vision care for said child.

Health insurance wasn't a free market industry before the unaffordable healthcare act or we would have been able to buy insurance across state lines, it sure as hell isn't a free market now. In a free market system you aren't mandated to buy ANYTHING or pay a PENALTY, I mean TAX, for not making a purchase. SMH

Conrad_73's photo
Mon 12/16/13 09:00 AM


its still a free market, she can continue to shop around,,,



We can shop for policies that meet the GOVERMENTS idea of what we need, not what we really need. Do I need maternity care? NOPE!! Do I need pediatric dental or vision coverage? Nope!!! Do I HAVE to pay for something I don't need if I want health insurance? YES!!

Why? The government has determined that as a 59 y/o male there is a high likelihood I will give birth to a child and I will need dental and vision care for said child.

Health insurance wasn't a free market industry before the unaffordable healthcare act or we would have been able to buy insurance across state lines, it sure as hell isn't a free market now. In a free market system you aren't mandated to buy ANYTHING or pay a PENALTY, I mean TAX, for not making a purchase. SMH

Just told the Horse about that 59yo Man giving Birth!laugh


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Mon 12/16/13 09:09 AM
this just in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Server problems at HealthCare.gov so bad, it now flashes 'Error 808' message

izzyphoto1977's photo
Mon 12/16/13 10:36 AM



So he just wasn't given the final boot then. I was pretty sure he finished his last term. I personally didn't see the point in booting him for sleeping around as I doubt it interfered with his job. Who knows it may have made his work easier having relieved some stress. lol


actually they impeached him for lying under Oath!


"I never had sex with that girl"....laugh


I liked his line of I smoked pot but I never inhaled.

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Mon 12/16/13 10:41 AM


So he just wasn't given the final boot then. I was pretty sure he finished his last term. I personally didn't see the point in booting him for sleeping around as I doubt it interfered with his job. Who knows it may have made his work easier having relieved some stress. lol


actually they impeached him for lying under Oath!


Well he wouldn't have lied so much about his affair is all those women hadn't have come out of his office after being diddled. lol

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Mon 12/16/13 10:41 AM




So he just wasn't given the final boot then. I was pretty sure he finished his last term. I personally didn't see the point in booting him for sleeping around as I doubt it interfered with his job. Who knows it may have made his work easier having relieved some stress. lol


actually they impeached him for lying under Oath!


"I never had sex with that girl"....laugh


I liked his line of I smoked pot but I never inhaled.


Yea. laugh

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Mon 12/16/13 11:31 AM

its still a free market, she can continue to shop around,,,


Uh, you missed the woman's point.

Obamacare is forcing her to purchase coverage for something that she has no need for.

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