lol, your a bit confused there buddy... science is not trying to make things better?...
think about all the conveniences you have today, IE- cell phones, computers, tv's, radios, refrigerators, stoves, bathrooms, this list goes on and on... were these invented by the church or scientists? how long did the church hold back science, afraid they would lose their power when the real truth came out?

if i have to say who made what better, the church would be out....

Just for the record- nowhere in evolutionary theory does it say man evolved from apes. The only people who say that are mainly creationists who do not understand or know how to read science

Huh I thought u were not religious. I have said over and over I am not a Christian. I do not want that label. I am a Yahwist, I do though use the same verses. This form will not let me go on the Christian form for that very fact. actually I learn more from you all than I ever will from them. I am open to what the scriptures say. I have studied for decades and have a natural nak for it IMO. I have no problem with what u believe. That's your choice and you can say whatever you want. My question was if you do not believe in a creator which I think most religions do. you must be on here to either draw people away from their beliefs, Belittle them or you are searching for more. which is it?

Miles i accept that a supernovae occurred in our galaxy which formed a nebula which then formed the star we call our sun.The remains of this supernovae called dust attracted to each other because of the low gravity yet there was electromagnetic static which hit the dust particles that caused it to become a solid.As the solid became bigger it's own gravity caused other electromagnetic particles to attract to each other.This is how earth formed not a spirit in a void pointing it's finger saying "presto there it is"aka magic.
As for the origins of life i accept that chemical bonding rather it be hydrogen bonding or covalent bonding or both occurred with organic and inorganic molecules that already existed in the galaxy.The amino acids that DNA turns to proteins exist in comets and astroids which bombarded our planet.H2O which a cell is 70% of gathered all these chemicals and dissolved them in our early hot planet to coding what eventually became a cell.Many cells eventually through mitosis had mutations which eventually became multicells then became macrolife.
I do in some regards may accept bacteria already existed but there isn't enough evidence yet to claim it a theory.So microbes which are part of our survival may be already existing at this time or not.Science hasn't solved that yet.
As for evolution it is nothing more than common ancestory,natural selection,mutation and time.

I tried to explain in the shortest and layman terms i could.This is what i accept i do NOT accept supernatural beings created the earth and life.

BTW feel free to explain how yahweh or jehovah did it without magic.

No. I appreciate your candor. Fee to speak I found it a very interesting read.

Simple in laymans terms I like that.

To me in short the Earth is the Center of all Things.

Now most would call me crazy but if Yahweh's final kingdom when the 1500 mile cube comes down. The New Yahrusalem coming down from the heavens, another dimension we have passed to.

We speculate how big the universe is everyday. We keep finding more but we may be seeing it thousands or maybe billions of years in the past.
I believe the bible supports alternate universes.

Angel seem to just appear. Even today I no of none who has never experienced " they saw something they knew something was their and try and shake it off.

Paul said their were Angels all around us. They never left. They do go back and forth to the thrown of Yahweh . The other more Civilized dimension. Where wrong knows nor right. Where the Garden of Eden still exists.

Science yet tells me (personal level) that we came basically from nothing. They have no idea how this all happened. Just a bunches guess and they have the luxury of always being right because I thing contibutes to the next. Its science yet unexplainable to a degree science holds itself to.

We must be able to recreated whatever. Mathmatical formula of time. Since we can not see time as we will never live long enough nor any generation to come like infinite time. Can't see forward can not see backwards either. What can we see?

I see a lot of theory's and these theories are scatter among the people through science books. With no sound basics for being so arrogant to believe their nano tech minds could explained how everything came to be, Then Recreate it!!!!

That's all I ask. Science is about Truth and Proof of the Truth. Recreate a small universe.. even make a power point presentation proving how we all came about., when, reason for DNA forming ect. ect. Surely an Organization as Powerful and Influential As Science can with out doubt show us. Recreate Creation make it a cartoon teach it to our kids.

But where does it end. we can no see the end so that makes everything infinite. Yet we say their has to be aliens out their look at the billions of universe they say they have search. best they can do is say. Their may be a possibility of a planet supporting life in our solar system. No proof they go off man made calculations. still no plausible answer.

Yet they do continue. To put this in peoples minds.. oh we evolved over time and then boom. Humans are abstract, their thinking and building things. Right around the time of the Tower of Babe. Remember Nimrod?

Building to the heavens themselves. The Bible tells us about this building going on all around the world. so many pyramids built in the same time period. all pointing to the solar eclipse is that what the call it. Lighting up their alters.

The Aliens are coming its their Landing Ramp. Yahweh said the earth is like a circle the inhabitance as grasshoppers all protected in a tent.

Greenhouse effect. That's our earth like it is surround by some force a Tent?

Protect your Tent.

Very good observation by men who only wished to see this day.

Yahweh' example of what he see's . says his Thrown is to the North and the Earth his footstool. Wonder why not south?

Nostradomus even though known for his prophecies of sort. Grew up Jewish but then Roma came in and they had to convert or maybe die. so they became so called Christians. But when you see what the Torah has to offer and have tried to live it , it will never leave u.

His going into the Black Plague cities with cures of Burn the bodies, clean everything u can by fire. the rats died or left. I believe as you call maybe Isaac Newton the father of modern Science.
I believe its very possible Nostradmus may of been the last real prophet we can reconize..

1 He is known before he was a Prophet as the Great Physian in Europe.

The their like 10 years he just disappears and come back and starts writing a almanac I believe acracally priding spring rain and the fall harvest years in advance.

His fame started moving " Who is this man" When he started seeing the future kings summoned him. He would have to ride for days or weeks to appear before the King or The Queen.

With them he found Great Favor. His writings do not disagree from what I have said than the 1st century believers. He was a Prophet. Very Humble and scared of the Situation. Like you will find all prophets in the Scriptures always do not want the job o cry out take this cup from me if possible.

A Prophet unto Moshe. Him you will listen to. Like Moshe and what did Moshe teach? He taught the Law of Yahweh Not just the 10 commandments but the whole law. Cain Spilled Seths Blood The Torah teaches the meaning of killing a brother whether physically or spiritually. The tongue is a sharp 2 edge sword use it wisely.

This is Yahshua but it is one place where you see a Prophet or even the agony of Yahshua who knew before hand the pain and suffering he was going to endure. Yet Fullfilled our Destiny. for us too someday cross over to the real Reality. The Kingdom that is so clear you can see below you. Water so abundant its crystal clear. Then the tree of Life that grows the fruits of life on it and the leaves are for the healing of the nation. Satans last try.

The thing is the bible does explain many thing science can not. Lets take the building of the Pyramids.

Why so many Pyramids around the world that we have no knowledge of why?

Nimrods ambitions lead by satans High Priest who was not only taking the whole human race at the Tower of Babel to build great monuments builds and showing them how. Their if you want to believe and I will say its in extrabiblical books.

It says The Building and the envy that man had become as they could build anything so the Tower of Babe; was destroyed By Yahweh and all the Languages changes. no one could understand each other or groups of people.

In Short these people scatter all over the earth and they still had the knowledge satan had shown them in their memories.
Their are writings about Satan had a High Priest who obey his every thought. His name should not be heard. We are told the same thing would happen. We are told about men in High Places. These are warning and we see this talked about so much in the last say 5 years we have become accustomed to it. our govt. does things in secret why wouldn't infuencial people?

This is the 1st know recorded slaughter of The Innocents. Satans High Priest would spill blood of new born babies on an alter to Satan

Soon after every slaughter of the Innocents Yahweh has always intervened. Their is/was a people Yahweh Hates they are the Amorites, They would sneak into a camp ad kill the women and children while they slept and left the men alone. a perverted people.

the Moshes being put in the river. saved from The Slaughter of the Innocents.

Then Yahshua The Magi Persian Priests lied to Herod and went home and Yahshua escaped and the Slaughter of the Innocents happened again.


Now since Roe vs Wade our Govt, has hade this slaughter of the Innocents a Right of every woman. Yahshua is son to follow if we look back in time. Just my observations.

These discoveries build my faith when ever I c something that is more Biblical poof.


These things we know. The Middle east the 1st civil communities.
Yet we go to china and find things we can not explain, Egypt. all around the world..

Science is their to recreate. The Bible does every time an things are dug up in Egypt to Turkey. Proof of what was said in the bible is true. dead sea scrolls. Isaiah all their and matched the Hebrew text we have to day. That's making sure important knowledge of our ancestors have been passing down forever. Nineveh.

Untill about the 20th century it was said to me a story. They found Nineveh The city I believe was walled but the point is they have made a statue for everyone to see as they entered Nineveh of Jonah. How Yahweh sent him to save their city.

That's pretty wild..

The test of time, though used to mans own desire. the very fact it has not been erased from history speaks for itself.

Not just because its old because it shows you the way to a happy and long life leaving the fruits of your life behind. Like Yahshua

What does science do that excludes the possibility that we were created and the bible has been passed down as a guide from Creation. whats good and whats not.. for thoughts written in stone or the Torah.

We see thoughts written in Stone all over the world.

why is not being able to recreated an element of life.







The theory that we can from objection of nano technology take a space in time in the universe which we still see growing infinite, that all these happened in a former time yet we are not evolving since the Biblical man came on the scene. All known civilizains date back to when scripture tells us it did. Pretty good guessing. when what we would call modern man. Not some secret theory its just not really explainable. Antient Alien theory can not explain how all these monuments came about. They just seam to be incredible. how could man do these and why?

Why fight an antient document but try and learn from. antient ways ddoes not mean bad ways