Topic: Starbuck's Idiot CEO
willing2's photo
Wed 09/18/13 06:35 PM
Starbucks stated if local law permitted concealed carry, they would not refuse service.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Wed 09/18/13 06:38 PM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Wed 09/18/13 06:41 PM


His point is simple gun free zones do NOTHING to help prevent shootings, all they do is make it easier for any criminal to come in and open fire at will, cause you know they don't obey any laws. Bans just punish the innocent, never the target they claim it's to stop.

And sure it may just be Starbucks now, but what happens when it spreads? Then what? Do you REALLY want a society where the only ones that have access to weapons are those who intend to do harm by using them vs. protecting themselves and others? I sure as hell don't.


Are you also for guns being allowed in bars?


While your question would invoke fear in many people, mixing alcohol and a weapon, there are a few points I can make on that subject.

I worked in Alaska for a while during Al-Can hiway construction and the pipeline. Many there packed pistols, and there were plenty of bar fights and violence, and yes, some gun play as well, but never did anyone pull a gun and shoot anyone in front of a bar full of witnesses.

There were arrests, and crimes, but that happens regardless of location.

Most aren't eager to get in a gunfight unless you have a gang mentality, and the bar has a right to refuse service, the customers have a right not to go there if they chose or have just such fears as your question implies.

Guns are not only an aggressive tool but a preventive tool as well. It is the bearer that is to be considered. As I said, a business has the right to refuse service or entry based solely on a belief or a judgement on character. There are laws to deal with any failure in that judgement on both the proprietor and the patron.

There are laws today that deal with pretty much the same thing in regards to alcohol and driving and the bars lack of enforcing limit laws to serve patrons who are allowed to over indulge, then drive, and injure someone in an accident.

Stripping law abiding people of their rights because of the actions of a few who will commit crimes despite any laws is no better than taking pot from a cancer patient with a medical marijuana card.

Neither makes sense, and it criminalizes a person who would not be breaking the law otherwise.

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Thu 09/19/13 07:49 AM

Starbucks stated if local law permitted concealed carry, they would not refuse service.


So again, what's the big fuss about?

metalwing's photo
Thu 09/19/13 08:16 AM


Starbucks stated if local law permitted concealed carry, they would not refuse service.


So again, what's the big fuss about?


There isn't a big fuss. The CEO of Starbucks is making a statement of support of gun control thinking that most of his customers approve.

Some of them don't.

willing2's photo
Thu 09/19/13 08:19 AM
Realistically, who knows how many folks support Starbucks stance.

It was reported by MSM. laugh

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Thu 09/19/13 08:33 AM

You have to have a gun with you to get a cup of coffee?




Yes, and a $3 dollar cup at that.ohwell

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Thu 09/19/13 08:36 AM


You have to have a gun with you to get a cup of coffee?




Yes, and a $3 dollar cup at that.ohwell


laugh Starbuck's coffee is so expensive, they should serve it with a complimentary box of ammo.... :tongue:

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Thu 09/19/13 08:40 AM



You have to have a gun with you to get a cup of coffee?




Yes, and a $3 dollar cup at that.ohwell


laugh Starbuck's coffee is so expensive, they should serve it with a complimentary box of ammo.... :tongue:


:thumbsup: true.

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Thu 09/19/13 09:13 AM



Starbucks stated if local law permitted concealed carry, they would not refuse service.


So again, what's the big fuss about?


There isn't a big fuss. The CEO of Starbucks is making a statement of support of gun control thinking that most of his customers approve.

Some of them don't.


The OP made a huge fuss about it.

alookat101's photo
Thu 09/19/13 09:22 AM

Today's development in which Starbuck's CEO Schultz made the bold move to tell customers to "Keep guns out of Starbucks coffeeshops" is so utterly laughable that I don't know where to begin. However, I will begin with a question:

Would the Columbine shooters, the Newtown shooters, the Aurora moviehouse shoorer, the DC Naval Yard shooter, and all the other nutjob shooters we've seen in the past and unfortunately will see in the future pay any attention whatsoever to such a CEO's request? Quite the contrary, they will seek out such an establishment.

If I go into a Starbuck's, I will most definitely be armed and will be armed legally in accordance with my CCW permit (and common sense) unless this idiot CEO legally prohibits firearms from his outlets. Then I'll be sure NEVER to enter one because it will NOT be safe.
WoW you mean to tell me that there's been Gun-Totterers hanging out at Starbucks. Can't a person get a good cup of Brew without pistol packers lurking around for disgruntle customers. rant

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Thu 09/19/13 09:32 AM


Today's development in which Starbuck's CEO Schultz made the bold move to tell customers to "Keep guns out of Starbucks coffeeshops" is so utterly laughable that I don't know where to begin. However, I will begin with a question:

Would the Columbine shooters, the Newtown shooters, the Aurora moviehouse shoorer, the DC Naval Yard shooter, and all the other nutjob shooters we've seen in the past and unfortunately will see in the future pay any attention whatsoever to such a CEO's request? Quite the contrary, they will seek out such an establishment.

If I go into a Starbuck's, I will most definitely be armed and will be armed legally in accordance with my CCW permit (and common sense) unless this idiot CEO legally prohibits firearms from his outlets. Then I'll be sure NEVER to enter one because it will NOT be safe.
WoW you mean to tell me that there's been Gun-Totterers hanging out at Starbucks. Can't a person get a good cup of Brew without pistol packers lurking around for disgruntle customers. rant
Dishwashing-Water!
My generic Instant-Coffee at home tastes better than the Stuff at Starbucks!
And the Price is a damn Rip-Off!
No wonder they worry about Customers who pack Heat!:laughing:

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 09/19/13 09:44 AM

Perhaps a bit offtopic but I think I know where the problem is.....

IT'S THE BEER! Perhaps those gun grabber, anti-constitution liberals should hang out more at Starbucks! rofl


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Thu 09/19/13 09:46 AM
Eh, doesn't bother me one way or the other, besides, I hate Starbucks, overpriced mediocre coffee.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Thu 09/19/13 09:50 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Thu 09/19/13 09:54 AM

It's just media hype to promote over priced 3rd rate coffee being sold by a crony capitalist company that is going under rapidly in a failed economy

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Thu 09/19/13 10:26 AM


Perhaps a bit offtopic but I think I know where the problem is.....

IT'S THE BEER! Perhaps those gun grabber, anti-constitution liberals should hang out more at Starbucks! rofl




I prefer to brew my own.drinker

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Thu 09/19/13 11:50 AM



Perhaps a bit offtopic but I think I know where the problem is.....

IT'S THE BEER! Perhaps those gun grabber, anti-constitution liberals should hang out more at Starbucks! rofl




I prefer to brew my own.drinker


Cheers!drinker .... You look really good today Alle!

msharmony's photo
Thu 09/19/13 02:04 PM


Starbucks stated if local law permitted concealed carry, they would not refuse service.


So again, what's the big fuss about?


I thought I posted this but,,,,,


your 'right' to carry a gun or sag your pants doesn't trump my 'right' to decide if I want guns or sagging pants in my establishment

they are items,,and since they are not discriminating what people are being served,, its as much their constitutional 'right' as anyone elses,, so why the fuss

support the constitution....lol

Mortman's photo
Thu 09/19/13 03:48 PM
If by chance you were sipping a Latte in a Starbucks and one or more violent criminals came in and began indiscriminately shooting customers and employees, would you rather someone like me be there armed responsibly with a weapon I am fully qualified to use or would you rather try throwing packets of artificial sweeteners at the bad guys?


I'll take a stab with a two-part answer:

(1) I'd rather have just the one idiot with the gun rather than two idiots with guns. That way, it's fewer targets for the police to shoot at when they arrive. I'll have called 911 on my cell phone.

(2) How often do you think coffee shops get shot up? It's not like there's a lot of money in wasting a lot of ammo to drill each and every customer, when all most robbers do is just hold up their gun and demand everyone's wallet/purse. How do you know you won't catch the first bullet in your face? I know you're just posing a hypothetical situation, here, but the situation you described is more rare than winning the lottery.

Conrad_73's photo
Thu 09/19/13 03:59 PM

If by chance you were sipping a Latte in a Starbucks and one or more violent criminals came in and began indiscriminately shooting customers and employees, would you rather someone like me be there armed responsibly with a weapon I am fully qualified to use or would you rather try throwing packets of artificial sweeteners at the bad guys?


I'll take a stab with a two-part answer:

(1) I'd rather have just the one idiot with the gun rather than two idiots with guns. That way, it's fewer targets for the police to shoot at when they arrive. I'll have called 911 on my cell phone.

(2) How often do you think coffee shops get shot up? It's not like there's a lot of money in wasting a lot of ammo to drill each and every customer, when all most robbers do is just hold up their gun and demand everyone's wallet/purse. How do you know you won't catch the first bullet in your face? I know you're just posing a hypothetical situation, here, but the situation you described is more rare than winning the lottery.
well,doubt if you get the chance to call the Police,but they will gladly investigate later,and provide the Bodybag!

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Thu 09/19/13 04:14 PM
I believe it was just last week in New York, some crazy dude was walking around in traffic. When the police arrived the man put his hand in his pocket. The well trained police, who were, presumably, qualified and certified in the use of firearms, fired several rounds
wounding three bystanders. The crazy dude was uninjured.

If some nutbag walks into a starbucks with a gun and wants to rob the place, the last thing I want is some other nutbag who thinks he's a superhero to turn a simple robbery into the O.K. corral.