Topic: Developing: Shootout at Naval Shipyard
Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/16/13 07:18 PM


I am curious why the DC police were responding when that is the home to NCIS, and at anytime they have a ton of Agents on base not to mention MP's.


Makes you wonder doesn't it........trust me this is NOT a coincidence. Do you really believe that a place like that could just let some crazy in with a military weapon no less, and shoot the place up? Not buying it for a damn second.


It makes me wonder about a couple things, but not that it's an inside job........It's not hard to get on a base, especially for a former member of the military who is working for a private contractor and a lot of them don't get completely searched. I know, because I went to Nellis AFB years back and after I was checked in at the gate (my car and equipment wasn't searched) I had basically free run of the base!

This guy was apparently helping with the rescue on 9/11 and had severe PTSD. Crap does happen and trust me I think the people running our government right now are as corrupt as all hell, there is no way they were behind this.

I am just curious why there is a base full of highly trained and heavily armed Federal Agents and MP's and city cops come in and kill the bastard..........

InvictusV's photo
Mon 09/16/13 08:58 PM
NCIS is based at Quantico not the shipyard.

http://www.ncis.navy.mil/AboutNCIS/Locations/HQ/Pages/default.aspx


Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/16/13 09:32 PM
Edited by Lpdon on Mon 09/16/13 09:36 PM

NCIS is based at Quantico not the shipyard.

http://www.ncis.navy.mil/AboutNCIS/Locations/HQ/Pages/default.aspx




My bad, the headquarters is at Quantico, but one of their largest offices is at the Naval Yard and that is where their Protective Service Branch is headquartered. Either way there is a lot of Agents at the base and MP's everywhere.

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Mon 09/16/13 09:55 PM

and look at this! The guy had security clearance to be there!

The blurb about it is a little down the page:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/liveblog/wp/2013/09/16/shooting-at-washington-navy-yard/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost#liveblog-entry-17942

This has inside job written all over it!


rofl

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/16/13 10:02 PM


and look at this! The guy had security clearance to be there!

The blurb about it is a little down the page:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/liveblog/wp/2013/09/16/shooting-at-washington-navy-yard/?Post+generic=%3Ftid%3Dsm_twitter_washingtonpost#liveblog-entry-17942

This has inside job written all over it!


rofl


I know right? All's that page has is user comments on a forum much like this one, not anything credible. It's sad that the conspiracy theory nuts think everything is an inside job.

Lpdon's photo
Mon 09/16/13 10:57 PM
Interesting, back in March of this year Admiral Bill French warned that base Security would be drastically reduced due to Obama's budget sequester!

Obama is partly to blame here!

msharmony's photo
Mon 09/16/13 11:09 PM

Interesting, back in March of this year Admiral Bill French warned that base Security would be drastically reduced due to Obama's budget sequester!

Obama is partly to blame here!


didn't you say YOU had free run of the place yourself,,,was that during OBamas presidency?

my brother is military,,he said the naval shipyard has been mostly civilian for quite a while without very stringent 'security'

HotRodDeluxe's photo
Mon 09/16/13 11:18 PM


I know right? All's that page has is user comments on a forum much like this one, not anything credible. It's sad that the conspiracy theory nuts think everything is an inside job.


It's more than sad, it's pathetic that such a tragedy is reduced to such a brain dead CT.

Kleisto's photo
Mon 09/16/13 11:43 PM



I know right? All's that page has is user comments on a forum much like this one, not anything credible. It's sad that the conspiracy theory nuts think everything is an inside job.


It's more than sad, it's pathetic that such a tragedy is reduced to such a brain dead CT.


Nah I think what's pathetic is people who keep falling for the same damn ******** time and time again........but carry on........

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/17/13 02:31 AM
the Good Old Gunfree-Zone-Crap!
I don't think Obama needs to have any Inside-Jobs done!
Just kill the People's Hope,and things will take care of themselves!
You will have Crises galore you can exploit!

Frank Marshall was a good Teacher!

no photo
Tue 09/17/13 08:37 AM

I bet Obama, Reid and Pelosi are meeting right now to try and figure out how to take guns away from members of our military, even in combat situations. Democrat logic, because of this no service member can be trusted!


Clinton issued an executive order banning the military from carrying guns on bases.slaphead

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 09/17/13 09:38 AM


I bet Obama, Reid and Pelosi are meeting right now to try and figure out how to take guns away from members of our military, even in combat situations. Democrat logic, because of this no service member can be trusted!


Clinton issued an executive order banning the military from carrying guns on bases.slaphead


Do you know if that was before or after he gave all our Nations Parks and waterways over to the UN?

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/17/13 10:43 AM
http://the-libertarian.co.uk/end-clinton-gun-ban-on-military-bases-naval-yard-shooting-latest-in-growing-number-of-shootings-on-u-s-military-bases/

One of the first executive actions undertaken by then president Bill Clinton was to disarm the soldiers and employees of the nation’s military bases. In the spring of 1993, President Clinton issued orders barring members of the military and the civilians who work for them from carrying their personal firearms on base, and making it prohibitively difficult for commanding officers to issue firearms to their own soldiers in the United States. Thinking himself to be providing for the security of U.S. soldiers by government means, Clinton deigned to require Military Police officers to carry weapons on the job, but their presence has been stretched increasingly thin by huge demand for military police in the country’s growing number of war zones. Whether the government will ever be able to singlehandedly provide for the security of its citizens in such disarmed zones is doubtful. Indeed, as many commentators have noted, they are not even able to prevent such crimes in federal prisons.

Addressing members of the press ahead of a planned speech on the economic recession, President Obama stated, “We are confronting yet another mass shooting, and today it happened on a military institution in our nation’s capital.”

“It’s a shooting that targeted our military and civilian personnel. These are men and women who were going to work doing their job protecting all of us. They are patriots and they know the dangers of serving abroad but today they faced the unimaginable violence that they wouldn’t expect here at home.”

In the wake of this tragedy, we can expect the current president to continue take every opportunity to politicise and sensationalise the events of this morning, as part of his relentless efforts to restrict gun rights in the United States despite widespread failure of such campaigns in the fifty states. However, it is not wrong to politicise a tragedy in its own right, though many may object. A tragedy is certainly no good for anything else. As long as the victims are taken care of, the first thing to do is investigate how to prevent it all from happening again. But the president would do well to reconsider the lesson to be learned today.

Similar crimes have occurred in similar places. The primary school shooting in Newtown, CT took place in a gun-free school. The Batman premier shooting in Aurora, CO took place in a gun-free cinema. Finally, in striking resemblance to the Naval Yard shooting today, the massacre at Ft. Hood, TX took place on yet another gun-free military base.

Shooters targeted all of these locations because they knew none of their victims would be able to defend themselves. Because of the fear mongering of Barack Obama and others like him, guns are so feared that government regulations have gone so far as to keep them out of the hands of trained soldiers. Because of Clinton’s gun control policies, a terrorist could expect more of a fight at a convenience store than at a base of the U.S. military. Mandy Foster, the wife of a surviving soldier shot at Ft. Hood, understands this lesson all too well.

In a 2009 interview on CNN, anchor John Roberts asked Ms. Foster how she felt about her husband’s upcoming deployment to Afghanistan. She responded: “At least he’s safe there and he can fire back, right?”

It now comes to us to do everything we can to prevent such a tragic shooting from ever happening again. So, should we further increase the list of places where honest and ordinary citizens are not allowed to carry their own firearms? Should we rely further on the ever-scarcer resources of the state to provide for security in these places, even though they have never succeeded before? Should we step in line with Barack Obama, and further restrict the Second Amendment in the United States?

The answer is clearly no.

Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this tragedy, and with their families.

Sojourning_Soul's photo
Tue 09/17/13 11:06 AM
Edited by Sojourning_Soul on Tue 09/17/13 11:17 AM

Well, I nailed this one! Hope he enjoys his impeachment over retirement!

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Carney: Obama Implementing Executive Actions Following Navy Yard Shooting

The headline should read....
Twelve died today because they were stripped of their right to defend themselves in D.C.

In the wake of the shooting at the Navy Yard, Obama spokesman Jay Carney said the president is implementing executive actions and reiterated his commitment to strengthening gun laws, including expanding background checks to sales online and at gun shows.

“The president supports, as do an overwhelming majority of Americans, common-sense measures to reduce gun violence,” Carney said.

Even as it was unfolding, the Washington shooting was reigniting talk about guns. Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a leading advocate of gun control legislation, mourned “the litany of massacres” the country has suffered in the form of mass shootings.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/09/17/carney-obama-implementing-executive-actions-following-navy-yard-shooting/

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/17/13 11:35 AM
there is no evidence any of the victims would be carrying a gun, or that doing so would have saved their lives

the tragedy is another one that comes back to unchecked mental illness

willing2's photo
Tue 09/17/13 11:56 AM
I to am curious to know if the shooter was an oBummer voter.

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/17/13 11:58 AM

there is no evidence any of the victims would be carrying a gun, or that doing so would have saved their lives

the tragedy is another one that comes back to unchecked mental illness
you really are trying to tell me with a straight Face,that if some of the Victims were armed the outcome would have been the same?slaphead

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/17/13 12:06 PM


there is no evidence any of the victims would be carrying a gun, or that doing so would have saved their lives

the tragedy is another one that comes back to unchecked mental illness
you really are trying to tell me with a straight Face,that if some of the Victims were armed the outcome would have been the same?slaphead


yes,,Im saying the victims were not exactly given much warning or notice or idea of where the shots would come from

having a gun doesn't mean they would not have still died

willowdraga's photo
Tue 09/17/13 12:12 PM

Interesting, back in March of this year Admiral Bill French warned that base Security would be drastically reduced due to Obama's budget sequester!

Obama is partly to blame here!


This has as much truth to it as the Titanic being President Obama's fault noway

Conrad_73's photo
Tue 09/17/13 12:13 PM


Interesting, back in March of this year Admiral Bill French warned that base Security would be drastically reduced due to Obama's budget sequester!

Obama is partly to blame here!


This has as much truth to it as the Titanic being President Obama's fault noway
slaphead