Topic: Is being overweight a severe social limitation?
ArtGurl's photo
Tue 09/03/13 03:01 AM
Well....I had way more stalkers when I was thinner so maybe .... huh


For the most part men like my extra curviness. For me though ... I'd like to trim down a little


SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Tue 09/03/13 03:42 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Tue 09/03/13 03:43 AM
I do think being overweight/obese has social limitations, partially depending how confident the overweight person feels.
One good thing was mentioned: "a seriously overweight person cannot join me in outdoor activities".
How bout going to the beach, fitting in the seat of a theme-park ride, a tour bus/airplane?

Unlike height, hair and age, the condition of overweight represents a choice – a choice to overeat consistently. Regardless of circumstances (or excuses), it is not possible for the human body to accumulate adipose tissue (body fat) unless it is supplied with more energy (food) than it needs. Drinking water won't add fat in the absence of an excess of food, nor will medications, nor "gland problems."

I think you seriously underestimate, or not take into account at all, the quality of food that is available to us.
What you're saying could, and possibly would be true, if the food we got to eat was healthy and naturally grown, which it isn't.
All the things they've done to our food (GM for instance), additives and so on, have an effect on our bodies, so they don't work like they should. If you put the wrong type of fuel in a car, it might still run, but not properly.

Sure, if people overeat, they should/can do something about it, but I know of a lot of people who are overweight, but don't overeat at all.
I've had it happen that I didn't eat much, reasonably healthy, still put on weight and couldn't get rid of it, not matter what (stress).

It's not always black & white. Theoretically maybe it is, not in RL.
BMI isn't exactly spot-on if you ask me. To have the ideal BMI (21), my weight should be 67 kilos. I've been there 12 years ago and I looked anorexic, unhealthy and I didn't feel healthy either.
I feel and look best when my BMI is around 24-25

TawtStrat's photo
Tue 09/03/13 05:55 AM
It can be like an aquired taste. I was never attracted to larger ladies when I was younger but then I met someone that I liked and she wasn't exactly huge, so I decided not to be so picky. I do remember putting my foot in it once or twice with the backhanded compliments; telling her that I was happy, even though she was a bit overweight etc. You soon learn that most women are really touchy about that and I grew to like cuddly women. It's just that they often have weight problems because they aren't fit, or because of some medical or psychological problem.

You can also run into difficulties with them because they will often believe that men want to have sex with them, even if they don't find them attractive.

Toodygirl5's photo
Tue 09/03/13 06:44 AM
Many men do not want a overweight woman, at tleast the ones I have dated, they state that upfront. I never have been fat and I am Older lady now but a bit overweight. I work on weight for my own health reasons so I am not concerned about drawing a man's attention. Most times men are just visual anyways.

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Tue 09/03/13 06:52 AM
Edited by 2KidsMom on Tue 09/03/13 06:57 AM


Big beautiful and confident ...
Skinny isn't the definition of beautiful .

Not much limitations if you confident .


Confidence is everything!



(((Kiss)))flowerforyou ..(((Simone)))flowerforyou

So This!!!!!!.....I am NOT a skinny barbie doll type,and do not claim to be...in fact I think that is one of the first things on my profile.

bigsmile

Curvy..Thick...Fat...Call it what you will...:tongue:


BrianLovesGuitar's photo
Tue 09/03/13 08:38 AM
Lifes not worth a damn till you can say - 'I am what I am' :smile:

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Tue 09/03/13 08:51 AM

Lifes not worth a damn till you can say - 'I am what I am' :smile:



drinker

BrianLovesGuitar's photo
Tue 09/03/13 09:01 AM


Lifes not worth a damn till you can say - 'I am what I am' :smile:



drinker


drinker :banana: drinker

misswright's photo
Tue 09/03/13 09:42 AM
Edited by misswright on Tue 09/03/13 09:48 AM


People have different preferences. Some will date overweight people and some won't. It would only be a severe limitation if you're going for the people who only date skinny people.


As a member of the minority who are not overweight, I acknowledge a lack of physical attraction to heavyset women – similar to many women being not attracted to men who are short, balding, older, etc. If my jeans are too small to fit her, she is too big for me (at 5'11" and 175#).

If I was overweight and out of shape, I would not expect anything more from others. As it is, statistics indicate that two-thirds of the population is heavyweight (and personal observation suggests that may be a conservative estimate).

Unlike height, hair and age, the condition of overweight represents a choice – a choice to overeat consistently. Regardless of circumstances (or excuses), it is not possible for the human body to accumulate adipose tissue (body fat) unless it is supplied with more energy (food) than it needs. Drinking water won't add fat in the absence of an excess of food, nor will medications, nor "gland problems."



The bold statement above, both literally and figuratively, just makes my blood boil!mad

So you see a large person and you automatically ASSUME they're at an all you can eat buffet around the clock stuffing their faces?!? You're a doctor I take it too, since you seem quite confident that medications and "gland problems" cannot possibly be responsible for excess weight? whoa

I studied the brain and the human body quite extensively and you are sorely mistaken. Certain medications affect one's metabolism and appetite not to mention energy level. Cancer patients often lose weight due to treatment that makes it virtually impossible to eat and maintain adequate caloric intake. Antidepressants cause chemical changes in the brain and weight gain is often a side effect even though caloric intake and expenditure hasn't changed one iota! In fact, research shows that depressed people are considerably less active and tend to overeat more in many cases... so energy output generally increases and caloric intake decreases when on antidepressants...yet these individuals tend to gain weight. According to your logic above, this couldn't possibly occur, yet it does. Do some research. rant

I know this from personal experience as well. I watched my fit and healthy Dad wither away following chemo before he lost his battle to the dreadful disease. I also took antidepressants once, not because I was depressed but as a preventative migraine med, and I gained 50 lbs over 4 months with no change in eating or activity levels. I was thin to begin with in case you were wondering, and when I went off them due to the weight gain side effect, I lost most of the weight (not without effort mind ya!). So don't tell me or believe that fat people are fat because they overeat, period. That's just hogwash! :angry:

Your choice in women, fat or thin, is your choice but you have no right to ASSUME that people choose to be fat anymore than they choose to age or have hair. In fact, you CAN choose to age or have hair. You could choose to be bald by having hair yet shaving your head anyways. You could choose to age...suicide is always an option, and one I would most likely choose if I was the woman that had to try to fit in your skinny little pants to impress you. Thank God I don't have to worry about that though, not because I couldn't either, but because I CHOOSE not to! I want a man that's a little less concerned about what's on the outside and more concerned about being compassionate on the inside. :thumbsup:

Edit: to fix the bold issue ... to make a statement bold

JohnDavidDavid's photo
Tue 09/03/13 09:50 AM
Edited by JohnDavidDavid on Tue 09/03/13 10:08 AM
I think you seriously underestimate, or not take into account at all, the quality of food that is available to us.
What you're saying could, and possibly would be true, if the food we got to eat was healthy and naturally grown, which it isn't.


Most of us live in a society that offers wide-ranging food choices – from healthy and naturally grown to pure junk food. We each make our choices from what is available. A healthy diet IS possible for almost all of us – IF we care.

Sure, if people overeat, they should/can do something about it, but I know of a lot of people who are overweight, but don't overeat at all.


Perhaps we should define "overeat": One reasonable definition is "Overeating generally refers to the long-term consumption of excess food in relation to the energy that an organism expends (or expels via excretion), leading to weight gaining and often obesity. It may be regarded as an eating disorder." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overeating

What we observe of people's eating habits may NOT reflect their actual eating habits (including when not observed). It is not uncommon for people to seriously underestimate the caloric content of the total food they consume.

I've had it happen that I didn't eat much, reasonably healthy, still put on weight and couldn't get rid of it, not matter what (stress).


Stress, by itself, does not produce body fat. Food in excess of need is required. Perhaps one under stress is inclined toward "comfort food" and/or reduced activity level – but that doesn't put on weight without excess eating.


BMI isn't exactly spot-on if you ask me. To have the ideal BMI (21), my weight should be 67 kilos. I've been there 12 years ago and I looked anorexic, unhealthy and I didn't feel healthy either.
I feel and look best when my BMI is around 24-25


I totally agree that BMI is a very poor measure. It is simply a refinement and renamed version of the old "Height weight charts" developed by insurance companies from actuarial data that were popular fifty years ago. It's advantages are that it is cheap and self-administered / calculated.

A far better measure is "Percent body fat" (otherwise known as "Body composition"). However, accurate assessment requires some skill, equipment and a bit of cost. A Lange Skinfold Caliper test by a trained person (at a fitness center or clinic) can provide reliable results. Information is available with an Internet search.

Even more accurate, and the standard of the industry, is Hydrostatic weighing – actual weighing of the person in water. Of course this requires even more equipment, time, training and expense (probably more than practical for most people, and not readily available).

Edited to add first paragraph inadvertently omitted.

TawtStrat's photo
Tue 09/03/13 10:47 AM
Metabolism is definetely a factor when it comes to weight gain and it is foolish to deny it, not to mention annoying to women that think that you're either just stupid or trolling.

I can eat whatever I like and I never put on weight. I don't go to a gym or anything like that and I smoke and drink. I've actually seen people putting on or losing weight due to medication and in at least one case I know for a fact that the person was not comfort eating and nothing else about his lifestyle had changed.

JohnDavidDavid's photo
Tue 09/03/13 11:30 AM

Metabolism is definetely a factor when it comes to weight gain and it is foolish to deny it, not to mention annoying to women that think that you're either just stupid or trolling.


Of course, metabolism is a factor in weight management. Activity level is another, age is another -- and the list goes on.

HOWEVER, no matter what the metabolism, activity level, age, etc may be, one cannot gain weight without eating more than THEIR body requires.

Yes, some can eat hearty without gaining weight, some cannot. Each must eat the quantity and quality that THEIR body requires -- not what others eat.

That may appear stupid to some people or irritate those who perhaps think that fat forms magically somehow.

TawtStrat's photo
Tue 09/03/13 01:07 PM
How about this: You stop trying to tell women how much they must eat and stop implying that it's just because they are fat greedy pigs. It's not against the law to be a bit on the chunky side and I'm telling you that larger ladies that I know have plenty of men after them.

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Tue 09/03/13 02:26 PM
We need to acknowledge also that just because someone is skinny doesn't mean they are healthy or not hogs. People say that they can eat whatever and not gain weight. Well great, good for you. However it doesn't mean you aren't messing up your organs by feeding it crap. Skinny doesn't mean healthy and overwegiht does not automatically mean unhealthy.

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Tue 09/03/13 02:34 PM

Female profiles often indicate "BBW" or "A few extra pounds", which suggest being above average. However, the "average adult US woman" is 5'4" and 165 pounds with a Body Mass Index of 28.5 (and the "average adult US man" is 5'9" and 194 pounds with a BMI of 28.8). A BMI of 25 is considered overweight and 30 is classified as obese.

Is this a hindrance in finding a date or a mate?


The BMI calculations are notoriously off...For instance, they put me at being considered overweight, neglecting the fact that I don't weigh much of s*.

Honestly, using things like this to wade through the dating pool is greatly detrimental I think...But to each their own.

Simonedemidova's photo
Tue 09/03/13 04:09 PM
Prior to my kids, I was 5'10 109 lbs. pre 3 c-sections, which similar to gastric bypass, you are left with skin that hangs.....not necessarily fat. Regardless. When I was thin, I ate tommy chili cheese fries and in n out and whoppers basically everyday because my thyroid made it possible for me to burn fat in my sleep. My thin body had nothing to do with diet and exercise. I work out much harder now with much less results.

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Tue 09/03/13 09:13 PM

How about this: You stop trying to tell women how much they must eat and stop implying that it's just because they are fat greedy pigs. It's not against the law to be a bit on the chunky side and I'm telling you that larger ladies that I know have plenty of men after them.



I'm keeping score here and you have just been awarded 10 extra points for the #1 putdown on the OP's post. Well said also , but I might add this little tidbit..............different strokes for different folks

SparklingCrystal 💖💎's photo
Wed 09/04/13 02:44 AM
Edited by SparklingCrystal 💖💎 on Wed 09/04/13 02:46 AM

Most of us live in a society that offers wide-ranging food choices – from healthy and naturally grown to pure junk food. We each make our choices from what is available. A healthy diet IS possible for almost all of us – IF we care.

Sorry, but this reveals you don't know much about food, depletion of arable land, GM, chemical fertilizers and pesticides and their effect on our food.
I.e. greens that should have lots of magnesium, barely have magnesium at all anymore, meaning most ppl lack this mineral, which is rather important in the human body. Just naming one.
Fruit that never seen any sun, got ripened artificially, full of vitamin C (yeah right!).
Accumulation of toxic stuff in our bodies (from air and water pollution, additives and chemicals in our food) and so on and so forth, and you're trying to tell us that bodies still function as they're supposed to and food is still healthy and nutritious? Get real, get informed.

Health mafia and Big Pharma benefit greatly from people getting fat, unhealthy, becoming diabetic, having high cholesterol etc.
Guess you never heard of the Codex Alimentarius?

The green beans we get in our supermarkets have been grown in Egypt. Egypt? Why??? Because it's cheaper. (Money is the keyword, not our health!) And probs they're allowed to use pesticides over there that aren't allowed over here. But hey, healthy greens are available to us!

You sound like a physician, who are supposed to know how our bodies work, think they know how our bodies work, but when it comes to the more delicate things, they know amazingly little to nothing. Their knowledge doesn't go beyond their medical study and/or what Big Pharma feeds them. But there is much more to our bodies than that ...

I digress from OP, sorry, but it p*sses me off when ppl pretend nothing is going on when it comes to our food, our health, our planet.
The picture you're painting is the ideal scenario, which unfortunately isn't to be found on this planet anymore.
There's a happy few (health mafia / Big Pharma) who want us to be unhealthy, obese, diabetic etc. because it makes them filthy stinking rich.

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Wed 09/04/13 03:09 AM

Female profiles often indicate "BBW" or "A few extra pounds", which suggest being above average. However, the "average adult US woman" is 5'4" and 165 pounds with a Body Mass Index of 28.5 (and the "average adult US man" is 5'9" and 194 pounds with a BMI of 28.8). A BMI of 25 is considered overweight and 30 is classified as obese.

Is this a hindrance in finding a date or a mate?


not anymore so than being ugly:wink:

unsure's photo
Wed 09/04/13 03:22 AM
I will say this and then I am going to ignore this thread because I am sick of reading it..just be yourself and if someone does not like you then they can kiss your sweet a$$!!!
My friend was very thin until she had a heart attack at the young age of 35. She has a lot of medical problems and her doctor put her on steroids for about 15 years. Now if you have no clue what this type of medicine does to you...it makes you gain weight and lots of it. So please do not tell me that people over weight do not gain weight due to a medical problem or medicine. IF YOU TRY TO TELL ME THAT, YOU BETTER BE A DOCTOR!!! grumble