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Sex before marriage is a sin. I read here about testing it's also a sin. All sin(s) before God are equal before Him.
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You hit the nail on the head. "I made my own rule." The problem there is that your own rule can be changed by you. How many New Year's resolutions are carried out for 365 days? Not many. Why, because they are your rules and as such can be changed at your own discretion.
Sex before marriage is not the question and I don't intend to answer it. Only that rules we make aren't rules but suggestions. |
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If you are a Christian and you have sex before marriage, it is a sin against your own body. If you are not a Christian then you are already living in sin. [/bold] Christians are not sinless or perfect, only forgiven. EVERY Christian sins. Paul sinned after coming to Christ and admitted it many times. Th edifference is we have accepted Christ as Saviour an Lord.[/bold] I doubt those who aren't christian are going to consider it living in sin. That is not surprising because they have not gave their hearts to Jesus. Believers believe the word of God and try to follow God's commands. Exactly! |
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Here is another NT example: John 4:16-18 New Living Translation (NLT) 16 "Go and get your husband," Jesus told her. 17 "I don'��t have a husband," the woman replied. Jesus said, "You're right! You don't have a husband- 18 for you have had five husbands, and you aren't even married to the man you're living with now. You certainly spoke the truth!" Here is an example of a lady that has been married five times and is currently living with a man she is not married to. Jesus tells her to stop sinning; therefore it is assumed she is having sex with her live-in boyfriend. Here is another example where 'loving' someone and having sex with them does not equate marriage. Blessings...  
 Wow! Laura, you make a good point.
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Weather its sin or no sin,its not the only sin :)
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Edited by
Solace84
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Sat 11/02/13 10:00 AM
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Well,its just like every other sin christians comit before they get married.....So too many breaches the law....
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Did me the world old good and God still loves me. |
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Sex before marriage... Do Christians do it? If so, do they consider it to be a sin? In the Christian faith, it is sinful for two people who are not legally married to each other to have sexual intercourse with each other. Sadly, all Christians eventually make the mistake of trying to serve two masters, which is why some make excuses for having sexual intercourse outside of a legal marriage. A lot of bush lawyer stuff. What was God thinking. To give us the equipment for achieving the heights of what the Chinese call the Heavenly Clouds. Then to leave strict instructions not to use the equipment until certain rites have been undertaken. Where was there a civil celebrant or priest even when the instructions came down that could legitimise the sacred most expressive of all indications that there is love, lust is a different matter. |
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Sex before marriage... Quote: Do Christians do it? If so, do they consider it to be a sin? In the Christian faith, it is sinful for two people who are not legally married to each other to have sexual intercourse with each other. Sadly, all Christians eventually make the mistake of trying to serve two masters, which is why some make excuses for having sexual intercourse outside of a legal marriage. : end quote: 'legal' A lot of bush lawyer stuff. What was God thinking. To give us the equipment for achieving the heights of what the Chinese call the Heavenly Clouds. Then to leave strict instructions not to use the equipment until certain rites have been undertaken. Where was there a civil celebrant or priest even when the instructions came down that could legitimise/ legalise the sacred most expressive of all indications that there is love, human instinct is to procreate, which gives me an indication of the belief in re incarnation, on reflection I would say the instruction is to 'intend to procreate' or abstain, not likely. |
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If you are a Christian and you have sex before marriage, it is a sin against your own body. If you are not a Christian then you are already living in sin. You forgot one: If you are a Christian, then you are living in sin. |
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according to the Bible thats a sin, you know "our body is a temple".
but i guess, it has become commonplace for now |
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Here is a New Testament example: Matthew 1:18-25 New Living Translation (NLT) 18 This is how Jesus the Messiah was born. His mother, Mary, was engaged to be married to Joseph. But before the marriage took place, while she was still a virgin, she became pregnant through the power of the Holy Spirit. 19 Joseph, her fiancé, was a good man and did not want to disgrace her publicly, so he decided to break the engagement quietly. 20 As he considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream. "Joseph, son of David," the angel said, "do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife. For the child within her was conceived by the Holy Spirit. 21 And she will have a son, and you are to name him Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins." 22 All of this occurred to fulfill the Lordâs message through his prophet: 23 "Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel, which means 'God is with us.'" 24 When Joseph woke up, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded and took Mary as his wife. 25 But he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus. First I want to point out in verse 19 the concept of entering into a covenant relationship during engagement as I showed previously in Deuteronomy. Marriage was a very sacred, covenantal commitment that was not treated lightly or flippantly by just claiming one was married when they succumbed to their sexual urges whether or not accompanied by feelings of love (whether erotic or ergos because agape would respect the other person enough to wait). Another translation in the NIV states: 19 Because Joseph her husband was faithful to the law, and yet did not want to expose her to public disgrace, he had in mind to divorce her quietly. This is in line with what we read earlier in Deuteronomy 22:24. But then it says after Joseph had a dream and direction from the Lord: 24 When Joseph woke up, he did as the angel of the Lord commanded and took Mary as his wife. 25 But he did not have sexual relations with her until her son was born. And Joseph named him Jesus. So, here again we see another marriage but this time they are married and have had no sexual intercourse until after Jesus was born so this obviously disproves the assumption that when two people love each other, intercourse is the marriage ceremony making the two, one in God's eyes.
I don't see where the passage proves that at all,, it only shows that sex is not the ONLY way to be merged as one but it did indeed factor into who was considered a wife,,, 20 So Jacob served seven years for Rachel, and they seemed to him but a few days because of the love he had for her. 21 Then Jacob said to Laban, “Give me my wife that I may go in to her, for my time is completed.” 22 So Laban gathered together all the people of the place and made a feast. A veiled woman 23 But in the evening he took his daughter Leah and brought her to Jacob, and he went in to her. 24 (Laban gave his female servant Zilpah to his daughter Leah to be her servant.) 25 And in the morning, behold, it was Leah! And Jacob said to Laban, “What is this you have done to me? Did I not serve with you for Rachel? Why then have you deceived me?” 26 Laban said, “It is not so done in our country, to give the younger before the firstborn. 27 Complete the week of this one, and we will give you the other also in return for serving me another seven years.” 28 Jacob did so, and completed her week. Then Laban gave him his daughter Rachel to be his wife. 29 (Laban gave his female servant Bilhah to his daughter Rachel to be her servant.) 30 So Jacob went in to Rachel also, and he loved Rachel more than Leah, and served Laban for another seven years. remembering, in the old testament, laws for Gods chosen people who were exalted above others before Christ came and made us all one with God,,,, those laws were very stringent and daughters were virgins who were cared after by their dada until their dads accepted money from another man to care for them as a husband those ceremonies are also sacred, in my opinion, but they are not the only means to pass into marriage throughout the bible,,, and very few marriage passages mention anything about government officials, I don't think any do to be honest the marriage itself is never really described as much more than the party the father throws agreeing to give his virgin daughter to a husband |
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Edited by
Conrad_73
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Sat 11/23/13 03:16 AM
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great!
The Powers That Be are quite slick! Declare it a Transgression,knowing full well it isn't,knowing People will not keep artificial Rules for long,then make them feel guilty and Cash In on their Guiltfeelings! Oldest trick in the Bag of the Confidence-Trickster! Of what concern is it to Government when two People bed down together,whether they have a Piece of Paper allowing them to do so? $ $ The ideology that opposes man’s enjoyment of his life on earth and holds sex as such to be evil—the same ideology that is the source and cause of anti-obscenity censorship [is]: religion. For a discussion of the profound, metaphysical reasons of religion’s antagonism to sex, I refer you to my article “Of Living Death” (The Voice of Reason), which deals with the papal encyclical on contraception, “Of Human Life.” Today, most people who profess to be religious, particularly in this country, do not share that condemnation of sex—but it is an ancient tradition which survives, consciously or subconsciously, even in the minds of many irreligious persons, because it is a logical consequence implicit in the basic causes and motives of any form of mysticism. The Ayn Rand Letter “Thought Control,” The Ayn Rand Letter, III, 1, 3 |
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Edited by
msharmony
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Sat 11/23/13 07:46 AM
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people do keep rules, and they are in place for a reason
I do agree though, that the government is not really a mandate in a coven that is supposed to be be with God,,,, because the government is by definition not allowed to really 'back' God up or not,,, marriage should be religious in nature or civil in nature but it shouldn't be mandated to be both,,, and I don't think it is government marriage is for those who seek the government stamp on their spiritual coven,, who wish to receive 'perks and benefits' from the government for their choice if I marry again, it will be strictly a coven with God without government involvement,,,, |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Sat 11/23/13 10:48 AM
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people do keep rules, and they are in place for a reason I do agree though, that the government is not really a mandate in a coven that is supposed to be be with God,,,, because the government is by definition not allowed to really 'back' God up or not,,, marriage should be religious in nature or civil in nature but it shouldn't be mandated to be both,,, and I don't think it is government marriage is for those who seek the government stamp on their spiritual coven,, who wish to receive 'perks and benefits' from the government for their choice if I marry again, it will be strictly a coven with God without government involvement,,,,  Good for you. I have always said that a legal marriage was a contract with a man, a woman and the devil. (The devil being the STATE) 
Although a legal marriage appears to be a civil union, THE STATE is ultimately corrupt and that's why I feel it is "the Devil's" institution. (I may not believe in the Devil but there may be an non human life form alien that plays that role. If not then it just represents evil to me.) If you believe this way though, then you should not register your children with the government with birth certificates, and SS numbers. It is when you do this that the government take over your family and feels that your children belong to them. Unfortunately unless you live in a religious society like the Amish, it is difficult to function without being entangled with government. |
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Yeah its a sin,and some christians do it....mind you,every confessed sin must be forgiven....
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Yeah its a sin,and some christians do it....mind you,every confessed sin must be forgiven.... What? How about you just stop sinning and forgive yourself and become a better person? |
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Yeah its a sin,and some christians do it....mind you,every confessed sin must be forgiven.... It'll be forgiven if you confess them before God with a broken heart and never to commit them again. He that covereth his sins shall not prosper, but whoso confess and forsake them shall have mercy - Proverbs 28:13. |
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WELL AS FAR AS THE BIBLE OR THE WORD OF GOD IS CONCERN,SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE IS A SIN BEFORE GOD.
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