back in the day it was simple.. love came first.. questions of where you worked or how much you earned weren't that important..
these days where you work, how much you have and what car you drive can score you a date..Ab4D..APPLY B4 DATE. lol
why why why???

Maybe there are more materialistic people in the world these days. Personally, I chose my partners based on who they are, not what they have.

On the other hand, I would not throw away everything I've spent 25 years building for anything but "forever". Even then it would be a hard transition to make, because I am accustomed to taking care of business, and walking away...well, it's just bad business.

I think nowadays money does rule.

Myself, personally I don't even consider it, it is the future that is important, not what you make or did in the past.

It does matter to a degree. I want to know how that person is established, why? because, I am tired of broke *** losers.

The first one couldn't hold a job.. didnt want to. Why would I want to carry the load on a lazyass? I wound up paying all the bills with no money to save.

the one I am with now will be out the door soon... he works, but, for the past 7 months has given me an excuse about paying his daughters college. She is 21. He pays her rent and college... he makes double what I make.. doesn't give me a dime, and the storage he was suppose to pay, hasn't been paid.

I am paying all the bills again.. so done!!!!

SO... money isn't everything, but you have to have it. I don't care what the guy drives... but if he is walking, he must be broke
if he is washing dishes (at age 45 to 50's) he must be uneducated and broke
and if he is still living with mom.. RUN!

Just my experience.

In my experience Love conquers all! In a relationship both must equally participate to at least keep a roof over your head, food on the table, and clothes on your back. Sometimes one needs to pick up the slack when an unforeseen situation arises from injury, sickness, or loss of work but you should also plan for hard times and learn to live within your means. It's also easier to make it with someone than on your own

True.

That is a sad fact...
..somehow it came down to this level... I love you but you don't make enough to keep us together...or,.. You can break my heart but not my bank account...as if the heart is nothing compared to wealth...
Or something like that...

This is the way it should be!

I definitely agree if an unforeseen situation happens, but if it does, I don't want to catch ya at the bar (which I have) or paying money for a trade show and telling me you're helping your brother move (which I have) ;)

Is you view more about laziness, having no passion for life and self improvement, or money?

If you fell for a man, for instance, who worked hard at a career he loved....say it's his life's passion...but it was not very lucrative; if your combined budget made you sacrifice some comforts you're accustomed to...would you give them up to be with him?

That's just bs jetta & just plain sneaky, lying, laziness. I've been out of work for a while so I learned to cut my expenses during time of layoff. Things are kinda slow in my area right now but I do what I gotta do to get by.

i agree that it does matter at some point..but what if you fall for a man or woman that is highly educated but unfortunately has no luck in getting a good job( it happens). but is trying their best.
what then?..stick with them till their fortune changes or move on?

Hang in there..for the long haul

#true#

Some of your sentence doesn't make sense to me. I will try and answer to what I think you are asking me.

If I dated a man who had a passion for a low paying job, but worked hard and helped with the bills,put our future together first, I would sacrifice, and I've had in the past.

If I dated a man who was washing dishes because in this economy that's all he can get, but was trying to still find other work in his field... I am ok with that.

This is different from your regular.. I am 40 something, live with mom and can't hold a job. Or, I make double what you make, but I have better things to spend my money on then bills....

My point is:

At my age, I want someone who is established and willing to work together.

cause people today are screwed in the head

why is the right question, thanks for you post

Yep! Journeyman, I divorced a man who made lots of money, the children and I had a great life.. but when I divorced, I learned to live within my means or starve.. Its what us mature adults do.
This man that I am with (not for long) is in his 50's.. and I am finding out he has never had anything.. all lies.
So, guess I am a little particular now on who I will date :)

I get it. You want to date a grownup.

jetta

Not trying to be mean, but do you know if by chance we as a nation go into a double dip there is not going to be security for anyone out of the 1 percent. Do we not realize that only 5 years ago 25% (not an accurate number I'm sure) of the home owners in the US lost theirs? If your looking for a man with money when this comes down, and it could, good luck. I want someone who wants to live life, not someone tied to a bank account.

you are not mean but you are missing my point.

My ex husband had a great bank account.. I had everything but love.. that's why I left.

My point is.. why should I carry a man? I want someone who wants to work together. And YES... no lazy losers allowed in!

There is a difference between trying... and not trying.

I can be choosy. The economy sucks, this is true, but there are lots of men out there who are single with some financial stability.

I don't want to be 50 and struggling.

Work hard, make money, buy a nice car then if the ones that turned you down before come round that said you weren't good anoth, then you can turn round to them and say the same back to them if they try! With love of corse No need to be rude even if they where!! x