Topic: Religion as a Mental Illness
William8's photo
Fri 06/21/13 05:54 PM
Well believing something as a fact contrary to all facts is delusional.

So how do you cure atheism?

The only way to cure fundamentalism, is to prove abiogenesis and beneficial mutations a fact of biology.

Not only have they not proven either, but the complexity of all life, DNA that determines all life and the complex biological mechanisms to creat both, suggest in no uncertain terms, that evolution and atheism is a delusions.

TBRich's photo
Fri 06/21/13 05:56 PM






Remember the article does not say anything against religion, it pin-points fundamentalism, which most theology scholars will tell you crosses the line from religion into a cult.


which theology scholars? and what do they define as 'fundamentalism'?

is that something different than organized or orthodox?


Fundamentalists generally take their holy writings literally


which part would a christian fundamentalist take literally?

'an eye for an eye' or

'turn the other cheek'?



'the wages of sin are death'

or
'let he without sin cast the first stone'.....?





How about disobedient children should be stoned; thou shalt not suffer a witch to live; a man who lieth with another man as a woman should be put to death. etc


so, its a very specific list of things that a 'fundamentalist' takes literally,,, ,,,,ok


Actually, it is the hypocriticism in quoting one thing from a scripture and denying others. This results in severe cognitive dissonance

msharmony's photo
Fri 06/21/13 05:57 PM
I understand why some dont believe,, truly

I also understand why I and others do,,,,

I dont think either is a sign of any illness, just the choices that come from our unique life experiences,,,

TBRich's photo
Fri 06/21/13 06:02 PM
There are many who believe but are not "crazy" about it. For example, this is a big explanation in use: man must have lived in the time of dinosaurs or else how can I believe this other part? How can you believe John 3:16, if you can't believe that you will get a harvest for giving me a $1000 seed faith offering?

no photo
Fri 06/21/13 06:05 PM
I don't think believing in a higher power is a mental illness, but I've seen some radical fundamentalist religious beliefs that I would definitely call a dysfunctional disorder of some kind.

Atheism does not mean a person embraces evolution. The theory of evolution has a lot of holes in it.

It is not a battle between Atheism and belief in God. It is the ridiculous nit picking about the details that is totally insane.




msharmony's photo
Fri 06/21/13 08:03 PM

There are many who believe but are not "crazy" about it. For example, this is a big explanation in use: man must have lived in the time of dinosaurs or else how can I believe this other part? How can you believe John 3:16, if you can't believe that you will get a harvest for giving me a $1000 seed faith offering?



well, common sense is a testament unto itself, religious or non

some people cant read a book that big and actually APPLY the words in context of the culture, the times, the persons writing or speaking, the people or occasion being spoken about, the absolutes,,,etc,,,


that happens on both sides, I t hink that illness has more to do with common sense and reading comprehension and lazy thinking issues than religion

no photo
Fri 06/21/13 08:37 PM
I used to think the idea that some form of humanoid living during the time of the dinosaurs was ridiculous. Anymore, I'm not so sure that is in the realm of impossible.

I think the earth may be a lot older than we think and for humanoids to have only to appeared in the small space of time they claim we appeared... and then we evolved so rapidly... it all seems completely illogical.

Religion teaches us that "the world" is how old? They are wrong, but the "world" may have a definition different from "the earth."

Humans may have been genetically engineered by an advanced race of beings and taught anything. This advanced race of beings may have been around even before the dinosaurs. Perhaps they are the ones who decided to rid the earth of these monsters.

In any case, the history of mankind and the history of the earth the way we have been told is illogical.




William8's photo
Fri 06/21/13 08:44 PM
Creation is a fundamental fact of life. No life can come into existence unless it is created. That points loudly and clearly to a creator but to make up theories about aliens is nothing more then wanting to ignore the obvious. We and the Universe exist because God made it happen.

no photo
Fri 06/21/13 09:10 PM
I'll just say this. Quote "Whoever spares the rod hates his child" Said by someone who has more wisdom and knowledge than anyone who has argued against disciplining their children in this topic.

Discipline from the least punishment to physical punishment does not seem pleasant but those trained by it will be lead to righteousness.

In today's society that calls discipline abuse negating accountability it's own irresponsibility will be brought to account of itself.

no photo
Fri 06/21/13 09:15 PM
And you wonder why children are abusive to their parents. Carrying guns to school-killing!!!! Etc etc etc.

But alas it's signs of the times. In Jesus day "the fields were ripe for harvest" but these days "the grapes are spoiled"

William8's photo
Fri 06/21/13 09:35 PM
If you read plato/Socrates account of the destruction of Atlantis, they were a once moral and philosophical society that degraded into self fullfilment through the gratification of the body. So they were punished by the gods.

It's most probably a chinese wispers account of Sodom and Gamorrah, that was wiped of the face of the earth and is generally accepted as the site of the dead sea.

Secularism will be punished by God yet this time through providence, global warming and fire.

Conrad_73's photo
Fri 06/21/13 11:59 PM

If you read plato/Socrates account of the destruction of Atlantis, they were a once moral and philosophical society that degraded into self fullfilment through the gratification of the body. So they were punished by the gods.

It's most probably a chinese wispers account of Sodom and Gamorrah, that was wiped of the face of the earth and is generally accepted as the site of the dead sea.

Secularism will be punished by God yet this time through providence, global warming and fire.
yep,the Global Warming that ain't happening!
Such a benevolent God!slaphead

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/22/13 12:04 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 06/22/13 12:06 AM

I'll just say this. Quote "Whoever spares the rod hates his child" Said by someone who has more wisdom and knowledge than anyone who has argued against disciplining their children in this topic.

Discipline from the least punishment to physical punishment does not seem pleasant but those trained by it will be lead to righteousness.

In today's society that calls discipline abuse negating accountability it's own irresponsibility will be brought to account of itself.
yep,or as another wise man said,:"Parents,don't feed harsh Laxatives to your Children,beat the Poo out of them instead!
Next thing,I guess,is Stone them or behead them,like practiced by some!
But don't worry,God is Love,so it don't really matter!slaphead

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/22/13 12:07 AM

If you read plato/Socrates account of the destruction of Atlantis, they were a once moral and philosophical society that degraded into self fullfilment through the gratification of the body. So they were punished by the gods.

It's most probably a chinese wispers account of Sodom and Gamorrah, that was wiped of the face of the earth and is generally accepted as the site of the dead sea.

Secularism will be punished by God yet this time through providence, global warming and fire.
wishing Disaster upon the Infidel?

Bearydewayne's photo
Sat 06/22/13 03:30 AM
I don't believe in all the quote unquote teachings and laws in the bible, but I do believe in God. People tend to classify things according to what they believe and use straw man arguments. I think anyone without SOME sort of spiritual outlook is mad, non-observant, and missing out on the true meaning of life, regardless of religious creed.

RKISIT's photo
Sat 06/22/13 07:53 AM
Edited by RKISIT on Sat 06/22/13 07:54 AM

Well believing something as a fact contrary to all facts is delusional.

So how do you cure atheism?

The only way to cure fundamentalism, is to prove abiogenesis and beneficial mutations a fact of biology.

Not only have they not proven either, but the complexity of all life, DNA that determines all life and the complex biological mechanisms to creat both, suggest in no uncertain terms, that evolution and atheism is a delusions.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1931526/

Please quit spreading creationist lies about beneficial mutation and alleles being lies.You are not an expert and you keep spreading this nonsense.STFU.

RKISIT's photo
Sat 06/22/13 08:09 AM
I may spread my nonsense about god not existing on here,that's because there's no evidence of a god.
William on the other hand he spreads nonsense when there is evidence to discredit his statements.

loyalmecca's photo
Sat 06/22/13 09:04 AM
Psychiatry is a fraud so saying religion as a mental illness ...is just stupid

Conrad_73's photo
Sat 06/22/13 09:24 AM
Edited by Conrad_73 on Sat 06/22/13 09:26 AM

Psychiatry is a fraud so saying religion as a mental illness ...is just stupid
and.......................what are you basing this "Fact" on?

Could it be really more of a Fraud than any of those delusional organized codified Religions?

msharmony's photo
Sat 06/22/13 09:40 AM

I used to think the idea that some form of humanoid living during the time of the dinosaurs was ridiculous. Anymore, I'm not so sure that is in the realm of impossible.

I think the earth may be a lot older than we think and for humanoids to have only to appeared in the small space of time they claim we appeared... and then we evolved so rapidly... it all seems completely illogical.

Religion teaches us that "the world" is how old? They are wrong, but the "world" may have a definition different from "the earth."

Humans may have been genetically engineered by an advanced race of beings and taught anything. This advanced race of beings may have been around even before the dinosaurs. Perhaps they are the ones who decided to rid the earth of these monsters.

In any case, the history of mankind and the history of the earth the way we have been told is illogical.







religion doesnt tell us how old the world is,, men have claimed it does,,,,,