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Topic: Is the DNC Pro-Crime?
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Sat 04/06/13 10:38 AM
Democrats will bow down to kiss the toes of Angela Davis, Kathy Boudin, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Bill Ayers, and Others; while at the same time belittle good citizens who obey the law, stand with Law Enforcement Officers and take a stand for the common good.

The Democrats will not enforce a single Gun Law that takes guns away from criminals, but will pass laws to limit the Law Abiding from owning Guns. They recommend that Women resist rape by peeing or vomit over themselves, or to Passively Resist the Rapist; and not to use a gun if someone is breaking down your door to kill you, but to wait on 911.

On Immigration, the Dems seems to favor Illegal Immigration over Legal Immigration by limiting how many may enter the country with all kinds of road blocks, red tape, long lines and waiting periods; but if one breaks the law, sneaks in, lives in the shadows under constant fear of being deported and thus victimized by criminals for so long, they might gain legal status.

As a Libertarian, I propose the Following.

1) Allow All Law Abiding Citizens Own and Carry Whatever Firearm They Choose, Even Fully Automatic Weapons If They Want. Despite the dire predictions of Finder Binders turning into shoot-outs, or that things would become like the O.K. Corral. (Which they always predict on Liberalizing Gun Laws but have never seen such happen when Liberal Gun Laws Pass) Based on history, despite the ranting of those who favor making it harder to buy a gun, letting people buy whatever gun they want, and carry it wherever they will lowers crime.

2) People Who Violate The Law Should Be Prosecuted And Then Shunned By Society Until They Make Full Restitution. What message are we sending people when people are Hero Worshiped for Violating the Laws, or given positions of respect because they had Murdered, Rioted or Bombed?

3) Let Everyone Who Wants To Come To The U.S. Do So Through The Front Door. Require that at every point where One may apply to enter the Country, after a Background Check for Security Reasons, give Everyone entry into the U.S.A.

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Sat 04/06/13 10:47 AM
first, government has three parties, dem rep and independent,

all have to 'enforce' laws, there is no one party that does or doesnt do it,, there are individuals from all parties who support or dont support

second, there are also individuals who propose ridiculous things regarding rape in all parties, which is not the same as the whole PARTY endorsing those suggestions

third, immigration laws are also passed by all parties, not by any one party, and those who have 'broken' the laws to get here must first have been of an age where they could be held accountable and second, must still meet the same requirements of anyone else (unless they were children) to be eligible to gain citizenship,,,,

I propose enforcing the laws we have to keep deadly weapons out of the hands of mentally unstable, criminally inclined, or paranoid/impulsive personalities,,,,


people who violate the laws should be prosecuted and permitted to 'pay their debt' and start fresh once they have,,,,


and yes, let everyone who wants to come do so by the front door, allow entry but not residence to everyone after a background check(which probably should happen with the visa approval,,honestly)

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Sat 04/06/13 11:10 AM

first, government has three parties, dem rep and independent,

all have to 'enforce' laws, there is no one party that does or doesnt do it,, there are individuals from all parties who support or dont support

second, there are also individuals who propose ridiculous things regarding rape in all parties, which is not the same as the whole PARTY endorsing those suggestions

third, immigration laws are also passed by all parties, not by any one party, and those who have 'broken' the laws to get here must first have been of an age where they could be held accountable and second, must still meet the same requirements of anyone else (unless they were children) to be eligible to gain citizenship,,,,

I propose enforcing the laws we have to keep deadly weapons out of the hands of mentally unstable, criminally inclined, or paranoid/impulsive personalities,,,,


people who violate the laws should be prosecuted and permitted to 'pay their debt' and start fresh once they have,,,,


and yes, let everyone who wants to come do so by the front door, allow entry but not residence to everyone after a background check(which probably should happen with the visa approval,,honestly)


I will guess that you started off your post without thinking too much; the Three Branches of Government is the Legislator, the Executive, and the Judicial; however many parties are involved is meaningless to their function.

Though I'm not a Repuke, I don't see too many kissing the toes of the Weather Underground or supporting the Loons of Occupy as they Riot, Vandalize, Loot Stores, March Down Streets Smashing in the Windows of Oncoming Cars. If I found myself in the middle of an Occupy Rampage and have to shoot to get myself out of the Madness, would I be Cheered or Vilified by the DemonCrats?

And again, on Immigration, the Only Party Pressing for More Legal Immigration, is the Reputes as the DemonsCrats are only pressing for those who came Illegally. 71% of Illegals have stated that they would Self-Deport in they were sure that they could Re-enter Legally.

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Sat 04/06/13 11:30 AM


first, government has three parties, dem rep and independent,

all have to 'enforce' laws, there is no one party that does or doesnt do it,, there are individuals from all parties who support or dont support

second, there are also individuals who propose ridiculous things regarding rape in all parties, which is not the same as the whole PARTY endorsing those suggestions

third, immigration laws are also passed by all parties, not by any one party, and those who have 'broken' the laws to get here must first have been of an age where they could be held accountable and second, must still meet the same requirements of anyone else (unless they were children) to be eligible to gain citizenship,,,,

I propose enforcing the laws we have to keep deadly weapons out of the hands of mentally unstable, criminally inclined, or paranoid/impulsive personalities,,,,


people who violate the laws should be prosecuted and permitted to 'pay their debt' and start fresh once they have,,,,


and yes, let everyone who wants to come do so by the front door, allow entry but not residence to everyone after a background check(which probably should happen with the visa approval,,honestly)


I will guess that you started off your post without thinking too much; the Three Branches of Government is the Legislator, the Executive, and the Judicial; however many parties are involved is meaningless to their function.

Though I'm not a Repuke, I don't see too many kissing the toes of the Weather Underground or supporting the Loons of Occupy as they Riot, Vandalize, Loot Stores, March Down Streets Smashing in the Windows of Oncoming Cars. If I found myself in the middle of an Occupy Rampage and have to shoot to get myself out of the Madness, would I be Cheered or Vilified by the DemonCrats?

And again, on Immigration, the Only Party Pressing for More Legal Immigration, is the Reputes as the DemonsCrats are only pressing for those who came Illegally. 71% of Illegals have stated that they would Self-Deport in they were sure that they could Re-enter Legally.


the thread wasnt about the branches of government, it was aimed at a PARTY of the government

so the parties that are involved is pretty meaningful to THIS thread and its implications

there are many groups that are controversial, the undergoround and occupy hare hardly the most politically relevant nor do they recieve resistance/support from any party exclusivly,,,,

as for immigration, isnt it great we are a nation of people from many nations with the freedom to disagree about how it should best be enforced?

demons and pukes though we may be considered by others,,,,

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Sat 04/06/13 03:33 PM
Democrats will bow down to kiss the toes of Angela Davis, Kathy Boudin, Mumia Abu-Jamal, Bill Ayers, and Others;


What a wild claim that is. Are the above-named people leaders in the Democratic Party? Have any of them ever been delegates to a Democratic Party convention?

...while at the same time belittle good citizens who obey the law, stand with Law Enforcement Officers and take a stand for the common good.


No evidence provided to support the above claim.

The Democrats will not enforce a single Gun Law that takes guns away from criminals...


New York City's violent crime rate has been dropping because criminals there are being prosecuted for unlawful use of firearms.

... but will pass laws to limit the Law Abiding from owning Guns.


Cite a gun law that became law without any Republican lawmakers voting in favor of it.

They recommend that Women resist rape by peeing or vomit over themselves, or to Passively Resist the Rapist; and not to use a gun if someone is breaking down your door to kill you, but to wait on 911.


They? How many are "they"? Are you going to judge an entire political party from statements made by a couple of kooks?

On Immigration, the Dems seems to favor Illegal Immigration over Legal Immigration by limiting how many may enter the country with all kinds of road blocks, red tape, long lines and waiting periods;


Congress in general has limited how many people can immigrate to the USA, not just congressional Democrats.

Are you suggesting that the passage of laws causes people to break laws?


but if one breaks the law, sneaks in, lives in the shadows under constant fear of being deported and thus victimized by criminals for so long, they might gain legal status.


What party was President Reagan a member of when he supported an amnesty program for illegal immigrants?

As a Libertarian, I propose the Following.

1) Allow All Law Abiding Citizens Own and Carry Whatever Firearm They Choose, Even Fully Automatic Weapons If They Want. Despite the dire predictions of Finder Binders turning into shoot-outs, or that things would become like the O.K. Corral. (Which they always predict on Liberalizing Gun Laws but have never seen such happen when Liberal Gun Laws Pass) Based on history, despite the ranting of those who favor making it harder to buy a gun, letting people buy whatever gun they want, and carry it wherever they will lowers crime.

2) People Who Violate The Law Should Be Prosecuted And Then Shunned By Society Until They Make Full Restitution. What message are we sending people when people are Hero Worshiped for Violating the Laws, or given positions of respect because they had Murdered, Rioted or Bombed?

3) Let Everyone Who Wants To Come To The U.S. Do So Through The Front Door. Require that at every point where One may apply to enter the Country, after a Background Check for Security Reasons, give Everyone entry into the U.S.A.


Thank you for reminding me why I left the Libertarian Party.

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Sun 04/07/13 12:45 PM

Thank you for reminding me why I left the Libertarian Party.


I was raised to be a Marxist, my parents were big fans of the Weather Underground though not daring enough to join that bunch of misfits; but they do feed off of Occupy as they shout out their hate of the system.

I was simply smart enough to see that Marxism is rather short sighted and self defeating with the fall of the Berlin Wall; Dems too often make excuses for Marxist so they were out, Reps are too often like the Dems, so there was no home for me among them as I didn't care for some of the things they advocated.

Libertarian is the only place where I found a Political Home; the only time my Parents don't call me a Traitor is when they are in need of Cash and come begging.

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Sun 04/07/13 01:46 PM
With the examples you gave in the op, I'd have to give a big, "Hell yeah to them in the criminal corner

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Sun 04/07/13 09:11 PM

On Immigration, the Dems seems to favor Illegal Immigration over Legal Immigration by limiting how many may enter the country with all kinds of road blocks, red tape, long lines and waiting periods;


Congress in general has limited how many people can immigrate to the USA, not just congressional Democrats.

Are you suggesting that the passage of laws causes people to break laws?


but if one breaks the law, sneaks in, lives in the shadows under constant fear of being deported and thus victimized by criminals for so long, they might gain legal status.


What party was President Reagan a member of when he supported an amnesty program for illegal immigrants?


Because the Immigration Bill in '08 had expanded Guest Worker Programs, the AFL-CIO wanted it killed by pressing for a Last Minute Poison Pill Amendment; Obama voted for that Amendment knowing that it would end Immigration Reform.

8 times in his first Term as President, Obama Lied about bring an Immigration Bill to Congress as he was speaking to Hispanic Groups or in Mexico; Come Monday, the First of the Month, Next Week, so on and each time it was a Lie.

Obama doesn't want to Solve the Immigration Problem; he wants the Issue and he Never Proposes anything on Legal Immigration, Only Illegal.
Amendment before the

willing2's photo
Mon 04/08/13 05:36 AM
The only thing wrong with Immigration Law is, it is selectively enforced.

They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.

They won't jail those aiding and abetting the Illegal. They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.

Lots of areas in the existing system that can reform the attitudes of those who hire and rent to Illegals.

Canada has a great guest worker system. They fly in Jamaicans. Limit them to where they can travel or visit while on contract. When their contract is over, they fly them back home.

All potential Guest Workers need to be screened for legal and health issues. They should also be tagged with a tamper- resistant tracking device. Contract over, employer should be obligated to send them home.

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Mon 04/08/13 06:14 AM
They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.


huh How do you expect ICE agents to raid a gang?

They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.


If they can't prove who they are, then how do you know that they are in the USA illegally?

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

willing2's photo
Mon 04/08/13 06:30 AM

They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.


huh How do you expect ICE agents to raid a gang?


They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.


If they can't prove who they are, then how do you know that they are in the USA illegally?

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

Again.
Selective enforcement of Immigration Law.
Everyone is required to carry ID. Around here, it is very dangerous to not have (legally required) VISA, papers and/or ID on ya'.

msharmony's photo
Mon 04/08/13 06:34 AM


They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.


huh How do you expect ICE agents to raid a gang?


They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.


If they can't prove who they are, then how do you know that they are in the USA illegally?

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

Again.
Selective enforcement of Immigration Law.
Everyone is required to carry ID. Around here, it is very dangerous to not have (legally required) VISA, papers and/or ID on ya'.



where is the law that us citizens have to carry ID?


willing2's photo
Mon 04/08/13 07:33 AM



They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.


huh How do you expect ICE agents to raid a gang?


They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.


If they can't prove who they are, then how do you know that they are in the USA illegally?

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

Again.
Selective enforcement of Immigration Law.
Everyone is required to carry ID. Around here, it is very dangerous to not have (legally required) VISA, papers and/or ID on ya'.



where is the law that us citizens have to carry ID?



Ever get stopped and had no DL?

Everyone is required to provide satisfactory identification to the police when requested. If you are unable to show ID, the police have the option of holding you in custody until they are able to ascertain your identity. If no one can bring your ID to the police station, then a computer search will be made of available databases to confirm the information you have given orally and this process includes checking digital photographs to see if they are of you.
Keep in mind that everyone is required by law to have a drivers license on their person while operating a motor vehicle. ID is also required to enter the boarding area of an airport and to enter a federal building.

Your question has been answered numerous times.

ALL GUEST IMMIGRANTS, VISITORS, LEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS WILL HAVE, AT ALL TIMES, ON THEIR PERSONS, THEIR VISA OR GREEN CARD.


mightymoe's photo
Mon 04/08/13 07:33 AM
the DNC doesn't care about anything but votes... same as the rest of congress

msharmony's photo
Mon 04/08/13 07:54 AM




They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.


huh How do you expect ICE agents to raid a gang?


They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.


If they can't prove who they are, then how do you know that they are in the USA illegally?

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

Again.
Selective enforcement of Immigration Law.
Everyone is required to carry ID. Around here, it is very dangerous to not have (legally required) VISA, papers and/or ID on ya'.



where is the law that us citizens have to carry ID?



Ever get stopped and had no DL?

Everyone is required to provide satisfactory identification to the police when requested. If you are unable to show ID, the police have the option of holding you in custody until they are able to ascertain your identity. If no one can bring your ID to the police station, then a computer search will be made of available databases to confirm the information you have given orally and this process includes checking digital photographs to see if they are of you.
Keep in mind that everyone is required by law to have a drivers license on their person while operating a motor vehicle. ID is also required to enter the boarding area of an airport and to enter a federal building.

Your question has been answered numerous times.

ALL GUEST IMMIGRANTS, VISITORS, LEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS WILL HAVE, AT ALL TIMES, ON THEIR PERSONS, THEIR VISA OR GREEN CARD.




u are missing the point, you are talking about having a drivers license, thats only required if you are DRIVING

passengers arent required to have a drivers license nor are pedestrians or anyone else,,,,immigrants are required to have documents,, but you wouldnt have them if you WERE NOT an immigrant

the question hasnt been answered at all,, as it wasnt about drivers, but ALL people,,,,driving or not

where is the law that everyone must carry id at all times??

willing2's photo
Mon 04/08/13 08:04 AM





They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.


huh How do you expect ICE agents to raid a gang?


They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.


If they can't prove who they are, then how do you know that they are in the USA illegally?

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

Again.
Selective enforcement of Immigration Law.
Everyone is required to carry ID. Around here, it is very dangerous to not have (legally required) VISA, papers and/or ID on ya'.



where is the law that us citizens have to carry ID?



Ever get stopped and had no DL?

Everyone is required to provide satisfactory identification to the police when requested. If you are unable to show ID, the police have the option of holding you in custody until they are able to ascertain your identity. If no one can bring your ID to the police station, then a computer search will be made of available databases to confirm the information you have given orally and this process includes checking digital photographs to see if they are of you.
Keep in mind that everyone is required by law to have a drivers license on their person while operating a motor vehicle. ID is also required to enter the boarding area of an airport and to enter a federal building.

Your question has been answered numerous times.

ALL GUEST IMMIGRANTS, VISITORS, LEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS WILL HAVE, AT ALL TIMES, ON THEIR PERSONS, THEIR VISA OR GREEN CARD.




u are missing the point, you are talking about having a drivers license, thats only required if you are DRIVING

passengers arent required to have a drivers license nor are pedestrians or anyone else,,,,immigrants are required to have documents,, but you wouldnt have them if you WERE NOT an immigrant

the question hasnt been answered at all,, as it wasnt about drivers, but ALL people,,,,driving or not

where is the law that everyone must carry id at all times??

Everyone who does not have proof of identity risks being detained for up to 48 hours while the cops check out who you are.

Deny it.

msharmony's photo
Mon 04/08/13 08:19 AM






They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.


huh How do you expect ICE agents to raid a gang?


They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.


If they can't prove who they are, then how do you know that they are in the USA illegally?

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

Again.
Selective enforcement of Immigration Law.
Everyone is required to carry ID. Around here, it is very dangerous to not have (legally required) VISA, papers and/or ID on ya'.



where is the law that us citizens have to carry ID?



Ever get stopped and had no DL?

Everyone is required to provide satisfactory identification to the police when requested. If you are unable to show ID, the police have the option of holding you in custody until they are able to ascertain your identity. If no one can bring your ID to the police station, then a computer search will be made of available databases to confirm the information you have given orally and this process includes checking digital photographs to see if they are of you.
Keep in mind that everyone is required by law to have a drivers license on their person while operating a motor vehicle. ID is also required to enter the boarding area of an airport and to enter a federal building.

Your question has been answered numerous times.

ALL GUEST IMMIGRANTS, VISITORS, LEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS WILL HAVE, AT ALL TIMES, ON THEIR PERSONS, THEIR VISA OR GREEN CARD.




u are missing the point, you are talking about having a drivers license, thats only required if you are DRIVING

passengers arent required to have a drivers license nor are pedestrians or anyone else,,,,immigrants are required to have documents,, but you wouldnt have them if you WERE NOT an immigrant

the question hasnt been answered at all,, as it wasnt about drivers, but ALL people,,,,driving or not

where is the law that everyone must carry id at all times??

Everyone who does not have proof of identity risks being detained for up to 48 hours while the cops check out who you are.

Deny it.


they must have reasonable suspicion that you have committed or will commit a crime

they can detain a person for ANY reason realistically, but they cant do it legally or without recourse if it doesnt have legal grounds,,,

willing2's photo
Mon 04/08/13 08:33 AM







They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.


huh How do you expect ICE agents to raid a gang?


They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.


If they can't prove who they are, then how do you know that they are in the USA illegally?

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

Again.
Selective enforcement of Immigration Law.
Everyone is required to carry ID. Around here, it is very dangerous to not have (legally required) VISA, papers and/or ID on ya'.



where is the law that us citizens have to carry ID?



Ever get stopped and had no DL?

Everyone is required to provide satisfactory identification to the police when requested. If you are unable to show ID, the police have the option of holding you in custody until they are able to ascertain your identity. If no one can bring your ID to the police station, then a computer search will be made of available databases to confirm the information you have given orally and this process includes checking digital photographs to see if they are of you.
Keep in mind that everyone is required by law to have a drivers license on their person while operating a motor vehicle. ID is also required to enter the boarding area of an airport and to enter a federal building.

Your question has been answered numerous times.

ALL GUEST IMMIGRANTS, VISITORS, LEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS WILL HAVE, AT ALL TIMES, ON THEIR PERSONS, THEIR VISA OR GREEN CARD.




u are missing the point, you are talking about having a drivers license, thats only required if you are DRIVING

passengers arent required to have a drivers license nor are pedestrians or anyone else,,,,immigrants are required to have documents,, but you wouldnt have them if you WERE NOT an immigrant

the question hasnt been answered at all,, as it wasnt about drivers, but ALL people,,,,driving or not

where is the law that everyone must carry id at all times??

Everyone who does not have proof of identity risks being detained for up to 48 hours while the cops check out who you are.

Deny it.


they must have reasonable suspicion that you have committed or will commit a crime

they can detain a person for ANY reason realistically, but they cant do it legally or without recourse if it doesnt have legal grounds,,,

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

BS. Detainment for no ID is grounds in itself. Spitting on a sidewalk, jaywalking, hanging out with a crowd on a street corner or at Home Depot.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/york-city-cop-imprisons-college-student-without-id-151221707.html

Nice, clean young gal gets locked away for no ID. She was trespassing in a closed park. The judge dismissed it.

Imagine dat.

msharmony's photo
Mon 04/08/13 08:46 AM








They won't raid the factories, construction sites, gangs, etc.


huh How do you expect ICE agents to raid a gang?


They won't deport those stopped on traffic violations who can't prove who they are.


If they can't prove who they are, then how do you know that they are in the USA illegally?

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

Again.
Selective enforcement of Immigration Law.
Everyone is required to carry ID. Around here, it is very dangerous to not have (legally required) VISA, papers and/or ID on ya'.



where is the law that us citizens have to carry ID?



Ever get stopped and had no DL?

Everyone is required to provide satisfactory identification to the police when requested. If you are unable to show ID, the police have the option of holding you in custody until they are able to ascertain your identity. If no one can bring your ID to the police station, then a computer search will be made of available databases to confirm the information you have given orally and this process includes checking digital photographs to see if they are of you.
Keep in mind that everyone is required by law to have a drivers license on their person while operating a motor vehicle. ID is also required to enter the boarding area of an airport and to enter a federal building.

Your question has been answered numerous times.

ALL GUEST IMMIGRANTS, VISITORS, LEGAL IMMIGRANT WORKERS WILL HAVE, AT ALL TIMES, ON THEIR PERSONS, THEIR VISA OR GREEN CARD.




u are missing the point, you are talking about having a drivers license, thats only required if you are DRIVING

passengers arent required to have a drivers license nor are pedestrians or anyone else,,,,immigrants are required to have documents,, but you wouldnt have them if you WERE NOT an immigrant

the question hasnt been answered at all,, as it wasnt about drivers, but ALL people,,,,driving or not

where is the law that everyone must carry id at all times??

Everyone who does not have proof of identity risks being detained for up to 48 hours while the cops check out who you are.

Deny it.


they must have reasonable suspicion that you have committed or will commit a crime

they can detain a person for ANY reason realistically, but they cant do it legally or without recourse if it doesnt have legal grounds,,,

rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

BS. Detainment for no ID is grounds in itself. Spitting on a sidewalk, jaywalking, hanging out with a crowd on a street corner or at Home Depot.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/york-city-cop-imprisons-college-student-without-id-151221707.html

Nice, clean young gal gets locked away for no ID. She was trespassing in a closed park. The judge dismissed it.

Imagine dat.




detainment can only happen if you have committed a crime or believed to be committing a crime,, in this case, TRESPASS

she wasnt merely stopped to be asked for id and then detained because of that,, she was STOPPED for the crime of trespass for which she was asked for ID and detained for not having it,,,,

as I said before, they can DETAIN you for any reson realistically, but they dont have LEGAL JUSTIFICATION for doing so if there is no crime,,,,

no photo
Mon 04/08/13 09:21 AM

They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

The U.S. Constitution would unless the courts ruled differently. My understanding is they law was originally put into place for protection of those that were once slaves or born from slaves. The Supreme Court would have to take it up and defined that it only dealt with slavery at that time in order for it not to apply to what is known as “anchor babies.”

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