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Topic: Is the DNC Pro-Crime?
willing2's photo
Mon 04/08/13 11:49 AM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 04/08/13 11:51 AM

detainment can only happen if you have committed a crime or believed to be committing a crime,, in this case, TRESPASS

she wasnt merely stopped to be asked for id and then detained because of that,, she was STOPPED for the crime of trespass for which she was asked for ID and detained for not having it,,,,

as I said before, they can DETAIN you for any reson realistically, but they dont have LEGAL JUSTIFICATION for doing so if there is no crime,,,,


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Up to Police discretion. If they want to haul ya' in for detainment, all ya' got's ta' do is look ugly at 'em and have no ID.

Detainment is a whole 'nudder game than arrest.

Detainment can happen just for suspicion while not carrying ID.

Dodo_David's photo
Mon 04/08/13 11:56 AM


They won't put an end to automatic citizenship for anchor brats.


The U.S. Constitution would have to be amended in order to prevent automatic citizenship for anyone born within the USA.

The U.S. Constitution would unless the courts ruled differently. My understanding is they law was originally put into place for protection of those that were once slaves or born from slaves. The Supreme Court would have to take it up and defined that it only dealt with slavery at that time in order for it not to apply to what is known as “anchor babies.”


SCOTUS took up the issue a long time ago in the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark. The Court ruled that a person born in the USA is automatically a U.S. citizen.

msharmony's photo
Mon 04/08/13 11:58 AM
true, suspicion of some crime can lead to detainment,,,,


Police can detain you only if they have reasonable suspicion (see below) that you are involved in a crime. Detention means that, though you aren't arrested, you can't leave. Detention is supposed to last a short time and they aren't supposed to move you. During detention, the police can pat you down and go into your bag to make sure you don't have any weapons. They aren't supposed to go into your pockets unless they feel a weapon.

If the police are asking questions, ask if you are being detained. If not, leave and say nothing else to them. If you are being detained, you may want to ask why. Then you should say the Magic Words: "I am going to remain silent. I want a lawyer" and nothing else.

A detention can easily turn into arrest. If the police are detaining you and they get information that you are involved in a crime, they will arrest you, even if it has nothing to do with your detention. For example, if someone gets pulled over for speeding (detained) and the cop sees drugs in the car, the cops will arrest her for possession of the drugs even though it has nothing to do with her getting pulled over. Cops have two reasons to detain you: 1) they are writing you a citation (a traffic ticket, for example), or 2) they want to arrest you but they don't have enough information yet to do so.


http://rense.com/general72/howto.htm

willing2's photo
Mon 04/08/13 12:04 PM

true, suspicion of some crime can lead to detainment,,,,


Police can detain you only if they have reasonable suspicion (see below) that you are involved in a crime. Detention means that, though you aren't arrested, you can't leave. Detention is supposed to last a short time and they aren't supposed to move you. During detention, the police can pat you down and go into your bag to make sure you don't have any weapons. They aren't supposed to go into your pockets unless they feel a weapon.

If the police are asking questions, ask if you are being detained. If not, leave and say nothing else to them. If you are being detained, you may want to ask why. Then you should say the Magic Words: "I am going to remain silent. I want a lawyer" and nothing else.

A detention can easily turn into arrest. If the police are detaining you and they get information that you are involved in a crime, they will arrest you, even if it has nothing to do with your detention. For example, if someone gets pulled over for speeding (detained) and the cop sees drugs in the car, the cops will arrest her for possession of the drugs even though it has nothing to do with her getting pulled over. Cops have two reasons to detain you: 1) they are writing you a citation (a traffic ticket, for example), or 2) they want to arrest you but they don't have enough information yet to do so.


http://rense.com/general72/howto.htm

Totally missed the point.slaphead

That works IF the detainee has ID.

No ID, they could take the whole 48 hours to determine WHO they have detained.

mightymoe's photo
Tue 04/09/13 07:58 AM


true, suspicion of some crime can lead to detainment,,,,


Police can detain you only if they have reasonable suspicion (see below) that you are involved in a crime. Detention means that, though you aren't arrested, you can't leave. Detention is supposed to last a short time and they aren't supposed to move you. During detention, the police can pat you down and go into your bag to make sure you don't have any weapons. They aren't supposed to go into your pockets unless they feel a weapon.

If the police are asking questions, ask if you are being detained. If not, leave and say nothing else to them. If you are being detained, you may want to ask why. Then you should say the Magic Words: "I am going to remain silent. I want a lawyer" and nothing else.

A detention can easily turn into arrest. If the police are detaining you and they get information that you are involved in a crime, they will arrest you, even if it has nothing to do with your detention. For example, if someone gets pulled over for speeding (detained) and the cop sees drugs in the car, the cops will arrest her for possession of the drugs even though it has nothing to do with her getting pulled over. Cops have two reasons to detain you: 1) they are writing you a citation (a traffic ticket, for example), or 2) they want to arrest you but they don't have enough information yet to do so.


http://rense.com/general72/howto.htm

Totally missed the point.slaphead

That works IF the detainee has ID.

No ID, they could take the whole 48 hours to determine WHO they have detained.


i can think of better things to do than waste 3 days of my life sitting in a county lock-up...and just for not having an ID...

msharmony's photo
Tue 04/09/13 09:37 AM



true, suspicion of some crime can lead to detainment,,,,


Police can detain you only if they have reasonable suspicion (see below) that you are involved in a crime. Detention means that, though you aren't arrested, you can't leave. Detention is supposed to last a short time and they aren't supposed to move you. During detention, the police can pat you down and go into your bag to make sure you don't have any weapons. They aren't supposed to go into your pockets unless they feel a weapon.

If the police are asking questions, ask if you are being detained. If not, leave and say nothing else to them. If you are being detained, you may want to ask why. Then you should say the Magic Words: "I am going to remain silent. I want a lawyer" and nothing else.

A detention can easily turn into arrest. If the police are detaining you and they get information that you are involved in a crime, they will arrest you, even if it has nothing to do with your detention. For example, if someone gets pulled over for speeding (detained) and the cop sees drugs in the car, the cops will arrest her for possession of the drugs even though it has nothing to do with her getting pulled over. Cops have two reasons to detain you: 1) they are writing you a citation (a traffic ticket, for example), or 2) they want to arrest you but they don't have enough information yet to do so.


http://rense.com/general72/howto.htm

Totally missed the point.slaphead

That works IF the detainee has ID.

No ID, they could take the whole 48 hours to determine WHO they have detained.


i can think of better things to do than waste 3 days of my life sitting in a county lock-up...and just for not having an ID...


for suspicion of whatever crime caused them to ASK for the ID,,,,

willing2's photo
Thu 04/11/13 02:34 PM
Wanna' bet they are all Dumbocracks?


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