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Topic: North Carolina State Religion?
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Fri 04/05/13 07:39 PM
My point is, the government does not decide what is a "religion" and what is not.

The flying spaghetti monster is probably a legitimate non-profit organization and religion and the government doesn't care as long as they file properly and do a certain amount of charity work.


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Fri 04/05/13 07:45 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 04/05/13 07:46 PM
willing2


I am also an ordained minister. But to have a nonprofit organization and "church" I would have to file it as a non-profit corporation and I would have to keep good books and contribute to charity etc. etc.

I did not do that because I believe that churches should pay taxes like everyone else.

But I am an ordained minister, and the High Priestess of the FIRST Universal Life Church of Brutal Truth and Honesty.

(formerly the Universal Life Church of hot-tubing and movie watching.)

:banana: :banana:



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Fri 04/05/13 09:05 PM

My point is, the government does not decide what is a "religion" and what is not.

The flying spaghetti monster is probably a legitimate non-profit organization and religion and the government doesn't care as long as they file properly and do a certain amount of charity work.




I never said it does. I asked u if something was a recognized religion and you tried to say there was no such thing as a government recognized religion. but there is.

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Fri 04/05/13 09:56 PM


My point is, the government does not decide what is a "religion" and what is not.

The flying spaghetti monster is probably a legitimate non-profit organization and religion and the government doesn't care as long as they file properly and do a certain amount of charity work.




I never said it does. I asked u if something was a recognized religion and you tried to say there was no such thing as a government recognized religion. but there is.


So what? The government does not have to recognize something as a religion for it to be a religion.

So why would anyone care what the government recognizes?

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Sat 04/06/13 02:23 PM




:laughing: Here we go again, North Carolina leading the way as they are still smarting over the fact that South Carolina beat them to opening fire first on the US Federal Govt. symbolized by Fort Sumter...perhaps South Carolina can do something about what many see as a 'Taliban flag'; because of the half moon and palm tree motifs and get a new one; perhaps of a Klansman, oops, I mean a Klansperson!
Yes, A Klansperson hitting Obama on the head with a burning cross...many would love that...rofl
Problem is that most of the KKK are democrats. Historically they Lynched black Americans that where republicans. Still today many of the Dems do verbal lynching on black Republicans.


If I recall correctly, it was the Republicans that supported the 'carpetbaggers' sent to the South and the 'scallywags' were the southern whites that joined them in supporting the new political rights of the former slaves, so those democrats launched the klans, wouldn't you as a means to fight back a hated enemy coming in to occupy your land and disrupt your culture...I think most anyone would would, by any means needed.



people are often trying to use the dem/repub history without accounting for the northerner/southerner history

dems have a poor history of civil and equal rights WHEN THEY WERE MOSTLY SOUTHERN,

but times changed long ago, in terms of the southern and northern political affiliations,,,


I disagree..

The social darwinists that led the eugenics/sterilization/abortion mill practices of the early 20th century were not divided by location they were united by common cause.

Rid their world of the undesirables. Their desire was not bound by race, but by class.

They were the elite of the western world. They weren't farmers.

If you think these people no longer exist then you better open your eyes.




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Sat 04/06/13 06:39 PM

willing2


I am also an ordained minister. But to have a nonprofit organization and "church" I would have to file it as a non-profit corporation and I would have to keep good books and contribute to charity etc. etc.

I did not do that because I believe that churches should pay taxes like everyone else.

But I am an ordained minister, and the High Priestess of the FIRST Universal Life Church of Brutal Truth and Honesty.

(formerly the Universal Life Church of hot-tubing and movie watching.)

:banana: :banana:


I tried and failed to get tax exempt status after I received my 25 dollar Minister/ Church certificate back in "74 (when still living in southern Maryland), for my new church, "of The Holy Diaper"; it was a joke,(our priest didn't find it funny though) but I didn't fill out the forms properly; A friend in Washington got his Minister's license and sent in his tax-exempt forms and got it for his new Church, "Of The Holy Sandal", then he made himself the charity...go figure. He gave it up several years later when the novelty wore off; I was still disappointed...sad
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Sun 04/07/13 07:25 AM



My point is, the government does not decide what is a "religion" and what is not.

The flying spaghetti monster is probably a legitimate non-profit organization and religion and the government doesn't care as long as they file properly and do a certain amount of charity work.




I never said it does. I asked u if something was a recognized religion and you tried to say there was no such thing as a government recognized religion. but there is.


So what? The government does not have to recognize something as a religion for it to be a religion.

So why would anyone care what the government recognizes?


They care whether or not they have tax exempt status. Also asking questions doesn't change the fact that you were wrong. XP

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Sun 04/07/13 07:26 AM

My point is, the government does not decide what is a "religion" and what is not.

The flying spaghetti monster is probably a legitimate non-profit organization and religion and the government doesn't care as long as they file properly and do a certain amount of charity work.


sadly that doesn't exist any longer!
Some Idiot ate it!laugh

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Sun 04/07/13 07:30 AM
another question is,why should Religious Organizations be Tax-exempt,heck,some rake in inordinate amounts of Money?

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Mon 04/08/13 12:19 PM

another question is,why should Religious Organizations be Tax-exempt,heck,some rake in inordinate amounts of Money?



Most likely it's probably because only the left wing socialists and communists favour taking the tax-exempt status away from Churches denying the people the right to donate their money to them to use in the many charities run by churches all over the world. Socialists and communists do not run charitable organizations along with a few of the more extreme political parties and if they do, any 'charity'/ monetary aid certainly would be directed their own organizations and most certainly be tax-exempt if they assumed power to run a country. Needless to say, however, that many would become their own 'charities' and funnel whatever funds they can steal or claim into those charities; all part of the usual policies to bankrupt a country. "Donating" to these so-called charities, though, seem to be used by both the 'right' and 'left' as SOP. Actually both seem to complain about the churches of all faiths/ creeds and their charities and especially their tax-exempt status, so in the end, only the confiscation of their moneys to enrich themselves seems to matter, whereas, if the ordinary citizens objected to giving to churches, they would not, but of course, no one cares what the people want or don't want; it is always what the criminals of the anti church political parties want. If they want extra cash, they can send their workers out to collect empty bottles on the streets. No one yet has managed a state policy against people making donations to their churches or charities...is this what is being promoted by objecting to the tax exempt status and how the churches dispense charity...Seems it is.

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Mon 04/08/13 03:36 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Mon 04/08/13 03:44 PM




My point is, the government does not decide what is a "religion" and what is not.

The flying spaghetti monster is probably a legitimate non-profit organization and religion and the government doesn't care as long as they file properly and do a certain amount of charity work.




I never said it does. I asked u if something was a recognized religion and you tried to say there was no such thing as a government recognized religion. but there is.


So what? The government does not have to recognize something as a religion for it to be a religion.

So why would anyone care what the government recognizes?


They care whether or not they have tax exempt status. Also asking questions doesn't change the fact that you were wrong. XP


You misunderstand what I was trying to point out.

Anyone can have a tax exempt status if they do the paperwork right. (Also, a religion does not have to be tax exempt to be a religion.)

So the government's alleged "list" of "recognized religions" is more concerned about the tax status of a corporation than it is about it being an "official religion.

You say they have a list of "official religions." I say that list, if it exist, is nothing more than non-profit corporation paperwork, and has little to do with anything being an "official religion."

But if you know so much about this alleged "list" then I don't know why you are asking questions about it. You already feel you know the answer anyway.

But my point is that a religion does not have to be on some "recognized government list" to be a legitimate religion.

So there was really no point to your question.

If you are pursuing it just to be able to say that I was "wrong" about there not being a "list of official recognized religions" then fine. You are just making it personal and wanting to be "right."

It would not surprise me at all that the government has such a list. However, I'm not impresses one way or another with their list.

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