Since you had started many thought provoking threads, the last few weeks. They were definitely very interesting and filled with insight. Good stuff AthenaRose...

This is also of the same quality. Dig a little deeper. Nice thread mg. I can resonate.

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Uptight people to me seem to have the most programing and least amount of free thinking.

This weekend I got a break from the studio here and was taken to another one in downtown Chicago to do a 2 day session. This tour I do 3 studio projects and have now been to two of them. I designed both of these places but the Vibe sent out between the two could not be more different. It was like being in two different movies. One that could not break free from themselves or let anyone around them be free, and the other made you feel like you were in heaven and everything was effortless.

People that I find with the least programing are so peaceful and things for them seem to happen without the pain of trying. At least this is what the second studio felt like. I didn't share my feelings between the two of them cause their both clients of course, but I found it interesting that the studio with the Vibe going on didn't ask about the other studio at all. We just did music and had a great time. However the flip side to this is returning to the first studio where I was and am tonight was all over me the minute I walked in the door about the other studio. It was like walking from the warm into a sheet of ice.

What a difference between sitting around and guys handing you instruments and inviting you to play and the other where a fight is only seconds away at any given moment. While watching them fight about stupid stuff tonight people were coming over to me apologizing for the actions. This one particular guy (I was told) is so stuck in his thinking that he starts fights over things that happened years ago cause he can't let go of the anger. When I suggested to him to maybe put that moment in the past (it was truely about nothing) he exploded, and I wasn't even in the conversation.

Here's a point though that I also think is interesting. The studio that I think is stuck in their thinking hardly puts out anything of quality, but the studio that is relaxed and not uptight slams and jams. The fidelity of the studio that just lets it flow has by far the greatest sounds.

Hi Leigh and ManO

I have to find out where Smithereens is so I can get in on some of that lovin :)

you said: People that I find with the least programing are so peaceful and things for them seem to happen without the pain of trying.

mg that is their programming

are you judgeing the studio's qualities with influence on how you view the people? I tend to agree with much of what you say but I always wonder if these things are simply matters of style preference rather than absolutes

it's a manO thing

Hi Gang

Thought I would share with you the types of rooms I'm doing sound in on this trip. The music is so good.



When your in these rooms your mind can't help but think of expression. It's like the world outside and it's troubles disappear.

I try not to look at things in absolutes but more in a moving continuum, so I would say that all styles are subject to change. However, I do see negative breeding result negativities.

Kinda funny how one of the main characters tonight had a long talk with me about this very issue and said he was wanting to change his particular views to be more open. He was speaking both personally and musically.

My program is broken...Something went horribly, horribly wrong somewhere and s* just kind of went to hell.

I just listen to people, I don't care...Even if I know they're wrong, they'll learn eventually I figure, I did anyway.

I read the first post and wasn't sure exactly what the OP was asking when he said "what's your program". Then I read through the first page and am still not quite sure. So, I don't know how to answer, as I don't know exactly what's being asked.

there are probably few absolutes, but also little else new under the sun. All that I was trying to say is the "programming" is not necessarily a negative. We all have our "programming" whether it is to be open ended and open minded or more structured. Classical music for example is quite structured yet beautiful. To me, it is listening to it with an open mind that matters, so yes I see your continuum and raise you the one concept: interrelated variables

good luck to your friend in my mind music absolutely requires an open mind

MG, perhaps you can explain a bit more?

Hi Sing

Not sure I can right now. The topic kinda popped out at me in the middle of a busy time and the thoughts just found themselves on Mingle.

Basically I'm talking about how different we are and how we got to be so different and do we see others as being different from ourselves and why.

And, some of the stuff we do makes sense to us but doesn't to others and why. it's not necessarily because they are wrong, but different in their thought process.

here's another quicky that is simple.

This morning I found this great scallop potato dish in the frig here and got a little. I kind of snuck it cause figured with it being so good it was probably someones specialty and they were certainly saving it. Later on I was hungry and came to the kitchen hoping to score some of this with some "honey baked ham", perfect right. Well when I got there (mouth watering) I was told that they thew it out cause they didn't like the seasoning. I thought it was heaven, they thought it was hell. I thought it was an incredible waste of food, they saw it as something not worthy of eating. Two complete different programs were going on, totally the opposite from each other. I ended up eating stale salmon that they thought was the greatest thing on the planet. Still though, I didn't throw out the salmon because I didn't like it. To me food is something not to waste. Were they wrong? In their eyes they felt they were doing me a service. Was I wrong? I don't know, I ate my salmon and didn't say anything. Hey, they could have had no food at all.

I just finished up work and it made me think of a topic I would like to talk about and see what your thoughts are.

Did you ever stop to think that you are programed and how different we are from each other because of that programing?

Tonight I was doing a studio session in playback mode and people were talking about the sound and where it was and where to take it. I knew that a certain fella was coming over and even though the guys do not agree or like his sound I set the system to match his taste. Sure enough he comes in, sits down, listens, "I love it", and leaves. Not 2 seconds after he leaves I put the sound back to the way the rest of the guys liked it so we could move on.

I deal with this all the time and have my whole life and it has taught me a lot about people. We all have programs built into our heads that tell us we are right and something is wrong.

Are you aware of your programing and how does it differ from those you meet or know? Do you instinctively think you are right? Are you aware that everyone does this and in their own mind they honestly think they are as right as you? Do you stop to listen to "their right" or try to push them over with yours?

Most folks aren't even aware when their pushing but they think the others around them are.

your thoughts?

Are you Mixerman?

Is that a member? If so, no.

If your asking if I'm an engineer (mixer)? Yes and no, I'm an audio designer, long time music industry guy.