Topic: what's your program?
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Fri 03/15/13 02:14 AM
BTW, love your threads. You have single handed changed mingle over the last little while.

yes, I will buy the book

You could publish your threads and make a fortune. Of course everyone would want a royalty.

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Fri 03/15/13 02:47 AM

BTW, love your threads. You have single handed changed mingle over the last little while.

yes, I will buy the book

You could publish your threads and make a fortune. Of course everyone would want a royalty.


what you are still confusing me... how have I changed Mingle?

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Fri 03/15/13 02:50 AM







Here's another one that makes no sense to me at all. How many plates does an American need? I go to clients homes and see dishes in their sinks that could be national monuments. I mean there's two people living there and never eat together and the sink overflow-ith. They come to my place and see no dishes in the sink. When by myself I cook and eat out of the cooking pan (nice cooking pans). Then I wash it out and put it back on the stove. How easy is that, but my friends freak out over this.

I have friends that haven't eaten at the diner table for ten years yet it sits there empty. (major program)

So you have a special room for dishes and plates and a beautiful table but you never sit down and actually eat or do anything in that room?


Okay... but stacked up dishes is nasty... and reeks of lazy... and ever since my x-husband took the stove as his part of our divorce agreement, I've cooked only in my microwave... bet I'm nuking myself everyday this way... but, I still get one good meal week, on Sundays, when he still fixes me a feast fit for an x-wife, on that very stove... lol... when we were married, Sunday's were his day to spoil me and he likes to keep up the tradition even now, so I'm not complaining, cuz he's an excellent cook... oops, off topic, where was I... oh yeah... programming is also referred to as tradition, isn't it? Like the table in the dining room that's never used... it's always there just in case we need it... and besides, what would the neighbors think if we didn't have a place to eat holiday feasts together, especially Thanksgiving... it's kinda like Easter.. there's a church on every corner, but most people don't use them anymore accept once or twice a year, on Easter and Christmas... what we call tradition, is also programming.. see??? no?? okay, my bad... slaphead


My wife was exceptional at taking shortcuts, and getting use out of something. There was no wasted space in any of our places and she had a way of turning tradition into something fun and fresh. She was so unconventional and being with her was like an adventure in doing things without problems (programs). I never saw anyone fit into so many places and situations. My whole approach to thinking changed because of her.


Was? As in past tense? Is your wife gone? I think it's really cool when people can learn to let go and try on different hats... that's the best part of life, to me... the awakening, the sharing, the old becoming new again...


Yep, she was a light bulb of brilliance and outlooks. My family passed a few years ago.


your family? as in more than one? sorry to hear this... flowerforyou


Yep, Mia and Asa. My wife and baby. "Happy thoughts", she would say.


It's truly sad news to know this, mg... I can feel how much you loved/love your wife, and your baby too... :cry: Happy thoughts though... flowers

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Sun 03/17/13 02:48 PM


How else are we supposed to react, mg? You are confusing me... How can we possibly think like others and accept everything they say or do if we weren't raised like them, don't have the same education, or social status, etc... I think the best we all can do is to accept who we are and work with whatever assets we have between our ears to the best of our ability, treating each other with respect and kindness, even if we don't agree with each others ideals.. It really doesn't take rocket science to understand that cultural differences that need deciphering just to make a connection can take some getting used too, if we really like the personality involved and want to keep going back for more... (jmho) As far as your girlfriends spending more for less, are they blonds? Just kidding... it's hard to believe that anyone isn't capable of seeing the basic truth in this issue tho, even if they are women...


Here's what I'm saying. Our up bringing or past dealings have no affect on us unless we give it permission to. I broke out of the program when I was young. Now when people see my brother and sisters together they would have had no idea I was in the same family. Now how did I break out. I just did it. There's a program that gets put in most that fills them with fear and consequences when there really aren't any. But that program of fear over rules the freedom because we let it. We feel we need to hang on to the tape that we think will play. So we never step out. But here's the thing, we're the ones playing the tape.

How many guys and gals are sitting there right now playing the grass is greener tape for example. There's nothing wrong with their marriage but if they keep playing that tape there will be. There are millions of programs people play and when you start looking at them for what they are you start seeing that they are only an illusion we have built. An illusion we defend so we can keep our tapes playing.

Exactly Uh huh happy

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Sun 03/17/13 02:54 PM
we are all programmed. the topic is nature vs nurture

what u are doing is dishonest, but I hear ya

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Sun 03/17/13 04:03 PM
I'd like to think I am open minded and give others room for being themselves, i state mine, while allowing them room for theirs, while also protecting my own personal programming (boundaries). Not all things can be justified by the means, without consequences.

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Mon 03/18/13 02:49 AM
We interupt this program.

Uptight people to me seem to have the most programing and least amount of free thinking.

This weekend I got a break from the studio here and was taken to another one in downtown Chicago to do a 2 day session. This tour I do 3 studio projects and have now been to two of them. I designed both of these places but the Vibe sent out between the two could not be more different. It was like being in two different movies. One that could not break free from themselves or let anyone around them be free, and the other made you feel like you were in heaven and everything was effortless.

People that I find with the least programing are so peaceful and things for them seem to happen without the pain of trying. At least this is what the second studio felt like. I didn't share my feelings between the two of them cause their both clients of course, but I found it interesting that the studio with the Vibe going on didn't ask about the other studio at all. We just did music and had a great time. However the flip side to this is returning to the first studio where I was and am tonight was all over me the minute I walked in the door about the other studio. It was like walking from the warm into a sheet of ice.

What a difference between sitting around and guys handing you instruments and inviting you to play and the other where a fight is only seconds away at any given moment. While watching them fight about stupid stuff tonight people were coming over to me apologizing for the actions. This one particular guy (I was told) is so stuck in his thinking that he starts fights over things that happened years ago cause he can't let go of the anger. When I suggested to him to maybe put that moment in the past (it was truely about nothing) he exploded, and I wasn't even in the conversation.

Here's a point though that I also think is interesting. The studio that I think is stuck in their thinking hardly puts out anything of quality, but the studio that is relaxed and not uptight slams and jams. The fidelity of the studio that just lets it flow has by far the greatest sounds.

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Mon 03/18/13 03:00 AM

I'd like to think I am open minded and give others room for being themselves, i state mine, while allowing them room for theirs, while also protecting my own personal programming (boundaries). Not all things can be justified by the means, without consequences.


Yep, I dig the balance thing and learning from the whole of the moment or input instead of my way being the end answer. I learn valuable info every day and even though I think I know a lot about what I do, I'm constantly surprised and please that there is so much more to learn. I'm one of those that gets excited by learning from others and not jealous that they beat me to a punch or something.

Usually though I pay close attention to body language when people in my field try to make their points. If I pay attention to the over all flow there are usually answer to be had through an upbeat or positive vibe or approach to something. When I sense tension then my somebody doesn't know something antennas go up.

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Mon 03/18/13 10:20 AM
There are a lot of different topics to discuss here. (Which is great!)...Maybe I'll start with "feeling right." I try to practice critical thinking and question myself. (About everything.)...Sometimes it's hard to get certain "rights" out of my head because they make so much sense to me. (No matter how many times I question my views and beliefs etc.)...Yet I know I will run into people who have totally different (and opposite) views than I have and they will "feel right" too...Maybe our beliefs serve a purpose. They lead us down different paths in life. We gravitate towards our "sense of right" at any given point in time...I've had quite a few "life-altering" experiences that "shook-up" my pre-existing beliefs (at the time) and led me down brand new paths.

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Mon 03/18/13 10:25 AM


Are you aware of your programing and how does it differ from those you meet or know? Do you instinctively think you are right? Are you aware that everyone does this and in their own mind they honestly think they are as right as you? Do you stop to listen to "their right" or try to push them over with yours?

Most folks aren't even aware when their pushing but they think the others around them are.

your thoughts?
I might not always be right.....but I'm NEVER wrong bigsmile

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Mon 03/18/13 10:46 AM

We interupt this program.

Uptight people to me seem to have the most programing and least amount of free thinking.

This weekend I got a break from the studio here and was taken to another one in downtown Chicago to do a 2 day session. This tour I do 3 studio projects and have now been to two of them. I designed both of these places but the Vibe sent out between the two could not be more different. It was like being in two different movies. One that could not break free from themselves or let anyone around them be free, and the other made you feel like you were in heaven and everything was effortless.

People that I find with the least programing are so peaceful and things for them seem to happen without the pain of trying. At least this is what the second studio felt like. I didn't share my feelings between the two of them cause their both clients of course, but I found it interesting that the studio with the Vibe going on didn't ask about the other studio at all. We just did music and had a great time. However the flip side to this is returning to the first studio where I was and am tonight was all over me the minute I walked in the door about the other studio. It was like walking from the warm into a sheet of ice.

What a difference between sitting around and guys handing you instruments and inviting you to play and the other where a fight is only seconds away at any given moment. While watching them fight about stupid stuff tonight people were coming over to me apologizing for the actions. This one particular guy (I was told) is so stuck in his thinking that he starts fights over things that happened years ago cause he can't let go of the anger. When I suggested to him to maybe put that moment in the past (it was truely about nothing) he exploded, and I wasn't even in the conversation.

Here's a point though that I also think is interesting. The studio that I think is stuck in their thinking hardly puts out anything of quality, but the studio that is relaxed and not uptight slams and jams. The fidelity of the studio that just lets it flow has by far the greatest sounds.


How much I love you Michael, let me count the ways!bigsmile Working in advertising for many years, I was exposed to a myriad of art directors, stylists, photographersI...You know, creative peeps, artists!:heart: ...It was always the laid back, program free "flexibilities" who turned out the best work, won coveted awards, and made working on set a pleasure...Always!...And they were the ones who were booked solid with a waiting list...They were the ones who billed the top rates that clients were happy to pay:wink: ..Great thread babe!!flowerforyou

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Mon 03/18/13 10:48 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Mon 03/18/13 10:51 AM



Are you aware of your programing and how does it differ from those you meet or know? Do you instinctively think you are right? Are you aware that everyone does this and in their own mind they honestly think they are as right as you? Do you stop to listen to "their right" or try to push them over with yours?

Most folks aren't even aware when their pushing but they think the others around them are.

your thoughts?
I might not always be right.....but I'm NEVER wrong bigsmile


I love Michael to pieces, but I love you to smithereens!!love flowers :heart:

PS: Just a tiny suggestion, you might want to think about inserting ALMOST before the word NEVER...whoa

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Mon 03/18/13 10:55 AM




Are you aware of your programing and how does it differ from those you meet or know? Do you instinctively think you are right? Are you aware that everyone does this and in their own mind they honestly think they are as right as you? Do you stop to listen to "their right" or try to push them over with yours?

Most folks aren't even aware when their pushing but they think the others around them are.

your thoughts?
I might not always be right.....but I'm NEVER wrong bigsmile


I love Michael to pieces, but I love you to smithereens!!love flowers :heart:

PS: Just a tiny suggestion, you might want to think about inserting ALMOST before the word NEVER...whoa
aint gonna happen, babe smooched

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Mon 03/18/13 11:01 AM





Are you aware of your programing and how does it differ from those you meet or know? Do you instinctively think you are right? Are you aware that everyone does this and in their own mind they honestly think they are as right as you? Do you stop to listen to "their right" or try to push them over with yours?

Most folks aren't even aware when their pushing but they think the others around them are.

your thoughts?
I might not always be right.....but I'm NEVER wrong bigsmile


I love Michael to pieces, but I love you to smithereens!!love flowers :heart:

PS: Just a tiny suggestion, you might want to think about inserting ALMOST before the word NEVER...whoa
aint gonna happen, babe smooched


Think before speaking !!!!!...think ...Remember what happened the last time your said that?shades

smooched

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Mon 03/18/13 11:28 AM


BTW, love your threads. You have single handed changed mingle over the last little while.

yes, I will buy the book

You could publish your threads and make a fortune. Of course everyone would want a royalty.


what you are still confusing me... how have I changed Mingle?


Since you had started many thought provoking threads, the last few weeks. They were definitely very interesting and filled with insight. Good stuff AthenaRose...:smile:

This is also of the same quality. Dig a little deeper. Nice thread mg. I can resonate.

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Mon 03/18/13 01:06 PM
My program is broken...Something went horribly, horribly wrong somewhere and s* just kind of went to hell.

I just listen to people, I don't care...Even if I know they're wrong, they'll learn eventually I figure, I did anyway.

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Mon 03/18/13 01:20 PM






Are you aware of your programing and how does it differ from those you meet or know? Do you instinctively think you are right? Are you aware that everyone does this and in their own mind they honestly think they are as right as you? Do you stop to listen to "their right" or try to push them over with yours?

Most folks aren't even aware when their pushing but they think the others around them are.

your thoughts?
I might not always be right.....but I'm NEVER wrong bigsmile


I love Michael to pieces, but I love you to smithereens!!love flowers :heart:

PS: Just a tiny suggestion, you might want to think about inserting ALMOST before the word NEVER...whoa
aint gonna happen, babe smooched


Think before speaking !!!!!...think ...Remember what happened the last time your said that?shades

smooched
there's an exception to everything :wink:

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Mon 03/18/13 01:24 PM







Are you aware of your programing and how does it differ from those you meet or know? Do you instinctively think you are right? Are you aware that everyone does this and in their own mind they honestly think they are as right as you? Do you stop to listen to "their right" or try to push them over with yours?

Most folks aren't even aware when their pushing but they think the others around them are.

your thoughts?
I might not always be right.....but I'm NEVER wrong bigsmile


I love Michael to pieces, but I love you to smithereens!!love flowers :heart:

PS: Just a tiny suggestion, you might want to think about inserting ALMOST before the word NEVER...whoa
aint gonna happen, babe smooched


Think before speaking !!!!!...think ...Remember what happened the last time your said that?shades

smooched
there's an exception to everything :wink:


Thank goodness!love

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Mon 03/18/13 01:27 PM








Are you aware of your programing and how does it differ from those you meet or know? Do you instinctively think you are right? Are you aware that everyone does this and in their own mind they honestly think they are as right as you? Do you stop to listen to "their right" or try to push them over with yours?

Most folks aren't even aware when their pushing but they think the others around them are.

your thoughts?
I might not always be right.....but I'm NEVER wrong bigsmile


I love Michael to pieces, but I love you to smithereens!!love flowers :heart:

PS: Just a tiny suggestion, you might want to think about inserting ALMOST before the word NEVER...whoa
aint gonna happen, babe smooched


Think before speaking !!!!!...think ...Remember what happened the last time your said that?shades

smooched
there's an exception to everything :wink:


Thank goodness!love
:heart:

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Mon 03/18/13 09:03 PM
Hi Leigh and ManO

I have to find out where Smithereens is so I can get in on some of that lovin :)