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If there is a man out there that can put me in my place... THAT is the man for me! Im still mouthy and a bigger smart AZZ, I could not be... so obviously, NO such man exists! Sez you!!!  
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If there is a man out there that can put me in my place... THAT is the man for me! Im still mouthy and a bigger smart AZZ, I could not be... so obviously, NO such man exists! I am there with ya!!!  
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If there is a man out there that can put me in my place... THAT is the man for me! Im still mouthy and a bigger smart AZZ, I could not be... so obviously, NO such man exists! I am opposite of thinking like this. Any man that would be dumb enough to try and put me in my place would have my size 10 military boot up his butt. Respect is important to me and I couldn't see myself as being anything less than his equal. If he wants that; then by all means he should just get himself a dog that he can order around. I would think that any intelligent being would want a say in the relationship and would want to contribute something. JMO I agree. I am a person; not a pet dog that needs to be controlled. I don't know how any woman would want to be treated like a child, a dog, or that she is beneath a man but I guess some women get off on that. |
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people, by nature, have different strengths and weaknesses and dont reach agreement until one concedes/compromises to the other,, unless they started out agreeing its not a big deal to have a 'head' so long as that person can be trusted to be concerned with the best interest of their family's happiness, security, and health Well Said! 
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We are not yet even....maybe some but even then you will still be following what youre man tells you.... Many are still submissive... Ok, to be honest there are some times when I want my guy to take control, but we both believe in a 50/50 relationship. I was one of the lucky ones that found a guy that cooks, cleans, opens my car door, kisses me before closing the door, walks me into the house, etc. But there is NO way I will ever be submissive to a guy.  
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Submissive really doesn't work for either in a relationship. Who wants to be the one that always has to be the responsible one or on the other hand who has to always be the one who has to give in to the other's dictates? I really think that is why communication between two in a relationship helps to keep the relationship. I think otherwise one is really just relating with themselves.
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Submissive really doesn't work for either in a relationship. Who wants to be the one that always has to be the responsible one or on the other hand who has to always be the one who has to give in to the other's dictates? I really think that is why communication between two in a relationship helps to keep the relationship. I think otherwise one is really just relating with themselves. I agree and if one is making all the decisions and it happens to be the wrong one; that is when the fights begin. No one person should have that kind of power or responsiblity thrust on them as even the strongest person will crumble with all the pressure on them. I think if you truly love that person; you will both share equal responsiblity for any type of decision making so that one person isn't burdened with it. |
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I agree with athenarose and navygirl as well,,,,in some parts of the world women are not independent, they are subjected to be submissive,,,,maybe because of the customs and traditions....well i got this topic from the stories i read,,,, their mostly historical(i love them)....it is from the idea of being lady.....to act as a lady.....
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Edited by
fineporcelain
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Fri 02/15/13 01:36 PM
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I agree with athenarose and navygirl as well,,,,in some parts of the world women are not independent, they are subjected to be submissive,,,,maybe because of the customs and traditions....well i got this topic from the stories i read,,,, their mostly historical(i love them)....it is from the idea of being lady.....to act as a lady..... But I do believe the way you act is the way you should be treated. Act like a lady, be treated like a lady, Act like a w itch be treated the same way. |
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All this talk about whose submissive and whose in control and how much we're willing to take and give, makes me so glad I'm single and don't have to deal with these issues right now. I'm so thankful after submitting myself to a man for the last 19 years, while also having to pull most of my own weight that I'm on hiatus for as long as it feels good to me. And even though I hear what everybody is saying and believing what's being said, the reality of it is, here in the country where I live, men rule their homes and families. And in the higher educated relationships women get equal billing. In the lower educated relationships women who are taken care of by their husbands do as they're told or they can be severely punished for disobedience. This is 2013, and even though we like to think we are enlightened and behave better than cave man days, in more than just a few families, the dark ages is still what rules the roost. Women are still being forced to submit and can be beaten by their men and the law doesn't even respond to their calls for help. They didn't even have 911 access here until just some years ago... and when they do call for help it "never" comes in some cases. Women have to escape their husbands and go to abuse shelters with their kids... So when the OP asks why we women still go for the order of men, the simple answer is, because this is how it's been since the beginning of time, and this is how it will always be... in one form or fashion.
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I agree with athenarose and navygirl as well,,,,in some parts of the world women are not independent, they are subjected to be submissive,,,,maybe because of the customs and traditions....well i got this topic from the stories i read,,,, their mostly historical(i love them)....it is from the idea of being lady.....to act as a lady..... A woman can be independent and not be submissive yet still be a lady. I get the best of both worlds actually. Guys talk and treat me as an equal but always I have been treated like a lady. |
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Submissive really doesn't work for either in a relationship. Who wants to be the one that always has to be the responsible one or on the other hand who has to always be the one who has to give in to the other's dictates? I really think that is why communication between two in a relationship helps to keep the relationship. I think otherwise one is really just relating with themselves. I agree and if one is making all the decisions and it happens to be the wrong one; that is when the fights begin. No one person should have that kind of power or responsiblity thrust on them as even the strongest person will crumble with all the pressure on them. I think if you truly love that person; you will both share equal responsiblity for any type of decision making so that one person isn't burdened with it. Making decisions can be fun if it is done right. I don't think there is a rule that a relationship can't be fun. Equity or equality in a relationship can be a good thing. A man of quality is not threatened by a woman of equality. Yeah. I took Women Studies in college. It was a real course at Wichita State University in Kansas. |
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Submissive really doesn't work for either in a relationship. Who wants to be the one that always has to be the responsible one or on the other hand who has to always be the one who has to give in to the other's dictates? I really think that is why communication between two in a relationship helps to keep the relationship. I think otherwise one is really just relating with themselves. I agree and if one is making all the decisions and it happens to be the wrong one; that is when the fights begin. No one person should have that kind of power or responsiblity thrust on them as even the strongest person will crumble with all the pressure on them. I think if you truly love that person; you will both share equal responsiblity for any type of decision making so that one person isn't burdened with it. Making decisions can be fun if it is done right. I don't think there is a rule that a relationship can't be fun. Equity or equality in a relationship can be a good thing. A man of quality is not threatened by a woman of equality. Yeah. I took Women Studies in college. It was a real course at Wichita State University in Kansas. The way I look at why not make decisons together? Its always good to get a different perspective than yours. Old saying is "two heads are better than one." |
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Edited by
navygirl
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Fri 02/15/13 02:20 PM
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All this talk about whose submissive and whose in control and how much we're willing to take and give, makes me so glad I'm single and don't have to deal with these issues right now. I'm so thankful after submitting myself to a man for the last 19 years, while also having to pull most of my own weight that I'm on hiatus for as long as it feels good to me. And even though I hear what everybody is saying and believing what's being said, the reality of it is, here in the country where I live, men rule their homes and families. And in the higher educated relationships women get equal billing. In the lower educated relationships women who are taken care of by their husbands do as they're told or they can be severely punished for disobedience. This is 2013, and even though we like to think we are enlightened and behave better than cave man days, in more than just a few families, the dark ages is still what rules the roost. Women are still being forced to submit and can be beaten by their men and the law doesn't even respond to their calls for help. They didn't even have 911 access here until just some years ago... and when they do call for help it "never" comes in some cases. Women have to escape their husbands and go to abuse shelters with their kids... So when the OP asks why we women still go for the order of men, the simple answer is, because this is how it's been since the beginning of time, and this is how it will always be... in one form or fashion. Unless one is in a completely abusive relationship; I think the word submissive is overused. Of course women will say they would be submissive as they know that is what men want to hear and they will say anything to get that man. If a woman was truly submissive; then the man decides what she wears, who her friends are, what she eats, how to decorate the house; how the kids should be raised, how the money is spent with every dollar accounted for and she would have no freedom to do what she wants nor would she have any say in anything in the relationship. She would never argue with her man, never nag him as she is submissive and she would say yes to everything; even having sex when she really didn't. You would have no free will of your own if you were submissive. So, I laugh when I see women saying they would be submissive. |
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Edited by
RainbowTrout
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Fri 02/15/13 03:06 PM
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If there is a man out there that can put me in my place... THAT is the man for me! Im still mouthy and a bigger smart AZZ, I could not be... so obviously, NO such man exists! I am opposite of thinking like this. Any man that would be dumb enough to try and put me in my place would have my size 10 military boot up his butt. Respect is important to me and I couldn't see myself as being anything less than his equal. If he wants that; then by all means he should just get himself a dog that he can order around. I would think that any intelligent being would want a say in the relationship and would want to contribute something. JMO I agree. I am a person; not a pet dog that needs to be controlled. I don't know how any woman would want to be treated like a child, a dog, or that she is beneath a man but I guess some women get off on that. That made me think of my dog Lady. Before the break up the girlfriend told Lady that she and not Lady was the alphabitch. Lady responded well with her. |
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All this talk about whose submissive and whose in control and how much we're willing to take and give, makes me so glad I'm single and don't have to deal with these issues right now. I'm so thankful after submitting myself to a man for the last 19 years, while also having to pull most of my own weight that I'm on hiatus for as long as it feels good to me. And even though I hear what everybody is saying and believing what's being said, the reality of it is, here in the country where I live, men rule their homes and families. And in the higher educated relationships women get equal billing. In the lower educated relationships women who are taken care of by their husbands do as they're told or they can be severely punished for disobedience. This is 2013, and even though we like to think we are enlightened and behave better than cave man days, in more than just a few families, the dark ages is still what rules the roost. Women are still being forced to submit and can be beaten by their men and the law doesn't even respond to their calls for help. They didn't even have 911 access here until just some years ago... and when they do call for help it "never" comes in some cases. Women have to escape their husbands and go to abuse shelters with their kids... So when the OP asks why we women still go for the order of men, the simple answer is, because this is how it's been since the beginning of time, and this is how it will always be... in one form or fashion. Unless one is in a completely abusive relationship; I think the word submissive is overused. Of course women will say they would be submissive as they know that is what men want to hear and they will say anything to get that man. If a woman was truly submissive; then the man decides what she wears, who her friends are, what she eats, how to decorate the house; how the kids should be raised, how the money is spent with every dollar accounted for and she would have no freedom to do what she wants nor would she have any say in anything in the relationship. She would never argue with her man, never nag him as she is submissive and she would say yes to everything; even having sex when she really didn't. You would have no free will of your own if you were submissive. So, I laugh when I see women saying they would be submissive. Submissive: readily giving in to the command or authority of another… Webster’s online dictionary Synonyms amenable, biddable, compliant, conformable, docile, law-abiding, submissive, tractable A woman being submissive to her husband who believes he has true ownership of her due to the marriage license being legally binding, can take the form of any level of her “giving in to”, “conforming to”, being “compliant with” his wishes and/or demands. She may even have a level of control in the relationship, so long as the man allows her too. And, in certain cultures, what some would call “abusive” treatment is an accepted practice to keep control over ones house. As far as any woman telling a man she will be submissive because that’s what he wants to hear then she has never truly experienced the role of submissive vs. dominant. But, if this is the role she chooses to undertake in order to have a roof over her head, clothes on her back, and food in her belly, then she knows, or better know what she will have to give up of herself to give a man total control over her life. In 19 years, I never raised my voice once to my husband. I remained silent when it came to my views. And I will say this much now… I will never again commit myself to a man who will not let me speak. Who will not listen to what I have to say. Who tries in any way to change who I am to suit his own needs and wants. I’ll remain alone with just my dogs for company and affection, before I ever allow another person to take anything from me because they think they own me, or because they think they can. |
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We are not yet even....maybe some but even then you will still be following what youre man tells you.... Many are still submissive... |
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Sheeple (a portmanteau of "sheep" and "people") is a term in which people are likened to sheep, a herd animal. The term is used to describe those who voluntarily acquiesce to a suggestion without critical analysis or research. They undermine their own individuality and may willingly give up their rights.
The label originated in the United States, and designates people who tend to accept and take statements at face value, especially if it is cited in mainstream media or religion. There is documented print usage of this word as early as 1950, in the form, "We, the Sheeple", in the Emory University Quarterly, v.6-7 1950-1951, page 64. "The Wall Street Journal first reported the label in print in 1984; the reporter heard the word used by the proprietor of an American Opinion bookstore affiliated with the John Birch Society. In this usage, taxpayers were derided for their blind conformity as opposed to those who thought independently. Shortwave radio host Milton William Cooper used the term commonly during his Hour of the Time radio show during the late 1980s and early 1990s. The label had been used by authors of fiction: as a title for Canada's ex-MP Garth Turner's 2009 book, also in numerous other works. The term is also used more broadly to describe any person who the speaker feels is exceedingly conformist. (I really dig synonyms.) 
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Edited by
navygirl
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Fri 02/15/13 03:27 PM
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All this talk about whose submissive and whose in control and how much we're willing to take and give, makes me so glad I'm single and don't have to deal with these issues right now. I'm so thankful after submitting myself to a man for the last 19 years, while also having to pull most of my own weight that I'm on hiatus for as long as it feels good to me. And even though I hear what everybody is saying and believing what's being said, the reality of it is, here in the country where I live, men rule their homes and families. And in the higher educated relationships women get equal billing. In the lower educated relationships women who are taken care of by their husbands do as they're told or they can be severely punished for disobedience. This is 2013, and even though we like to think we are enlightened and behave better than cave man days, in more than just a few families, the dark ages is still what rules the roost. Women are still being forced to submit and can be beaten by their men and the law doesn't even respond to their calls for help. They didn't even have 911 access here until just some years ago... and when they do call for help it "never" comes in some cases. Women have to escape their husbands and go to abuse shelters with their kids... So when the OP asks why we women still go for the order of men, the simple answer is, because this is how it's been since the beginning of time, and this is how it will always be... in one form or fashion. Unless one is in a completely abusive relationship; I think the word submissive is overused. Of course women will say they would be submissive as they know that is what men want to hear and they will say anything to get that man. If a woman was truly submissive; then the man decides what she wears, who her friends are, what she eats, how to decorate the house; how the kids should be raised, how the money is spent with every dollar accounted for and she would have no freedom to do what she wants nor would she have any say in anything in the relationship. She would never argue with her man, never nag him as she is submissive and she would say yes to everything; even having sex when she really didn't. You would have no free will of your own if you were submissive. So, I laugh when I see women saying they would be submissive. Submissive: readily giving in to the command or authority of another… Webster’s online dictionary Synonyms amenable, biddable, compliant, conformable, docile, law-abiding, submissive, tractable A woman being submissive to her husband who believes he has true ownership of her due to the marriage license being legally binding, can take the form of any level of her “giving in to”, “conforming to”, being “compliant with” his wishes and/or demands. She may even have a level of control in the relationship, so long as the man allows her too. And, in certain cultures, what some would call “abusive” treatment is an accepted practice to keep control over ones house. As far as any woman telling a man she will be submissive because that’s what he wants to hear then she has never truly experienced the role of submissive vs. dominant. But, if this is the role she chooses to undertake in order to have a roof over her head, clothes on her back, and food in her belly, then she knows, or better know what she will have to give up of herself to give a man total control over her life. In 19 years, I never raised my voice once to my husband. I remained silent when it came to my views. And I will say this much now… I will never again commit myself to a man who will not let me speak. Who will not listen to what I have to say. Who tries in any way to change who I am to suit his own needs and wants. I’ll remain alone with just my dogs for company and affection, before I ever allow another person to take anything from me because they think they own me, or because they think they can. This is the definition I found and it disturbing. Submissive of, tending towards, or indicating submission, humility, or servility.When you are submissive, you submit to someone else's will, which literally, you put your own desires lower than theirs. Synonyms; abject, accommodating, acquiescent, amenable, bowing down, comformable, complying, deferential, docile, domesticated, dutiful, giving-in, humble, ingratiating, lowly, malleable, meek, menial, nonresistant, nonresisting, obedient, obeisant, obeying, obsequious, passive, patient, pliable, pliant, resigned, servile, slavish, subdued, tame, tractable, uncomplaining, unresisting, yes*, yielding. |
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Makes sense. Take the submission hold,for example. It is base on a win or lose scenario. How many times can a relationship go through this scoring methodology? Its the old tit for tat. It bothers me because I like serenity but can't always have it. Some old-style relationships were based on the give and take principle. I think it is a ying yang thing based on balance.
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