How can a couple stay together with one person always lying about things? Big things, small things...does it matter when there's always one lie after the other? What do you think of partners that lie all the time?

Lying means there are no lines of communication. No lines of communication means the relationship will end.

I don't like lies personally but most relationships are built on them. I think someone said on this site that if everyone was 100% honest; there would be no relationships and he does have a point. People seem to think these little white lies are okay as they don't want to hurt their partner; but no matter how you label it; its still a lie.

They wouldn't be a partner if they lied all the time. I couldn't respect a liar and I couldn't date someone I don't respect.

With constant lies comes nothing to left to trust.
Without trust there is nothing.
I guess there are those who do stay in those types of relationships but there's also victims of physical and emotional abuse that stay in relationships too.

I'd be down the road gone if I was getting chit on like that, but then I gotta pair!

Sorry to say, but I think it's built in our DNA for us humans to lie. At some point, everyone lies. Never gonna meet a perfect person that never lies. Ya either live with it or ya don't. If constant lying is not something you can live with, you ought to feel free to walk away from the relationship.

Exactly! Even though I don't have a pair

Yeah, just look at the White house.

I had thought up a witty retort but Simplicity put it best. My take:

Lying, cheating, stealing. You ever wonder why you may have heard this trio together? It's because they are really good friends/accomplices, and live right next to each other. One is usually a gateway to the other. I guess you could equate them to roads too; each one intersecting at multiple points. White lies, as NavyGirl stated, are still lies nonetheless, and again we visit the "lines" conversation. There are so many lines we must traverse; dedication/obsession, motivation/insanity, truth/exaggeration/lie, the list is endless.

Ever notice how the little white lie about Santa usually blossoms into multiple lies? I thought of that this past year as I was spinning them at a cyclic rate to my 11 y/o. You have to wonder why:
1. To prevent something you shouldn't have been doing in the first d@mn place from coming to light.
2. To "protect" someone from a truth which would hurt them or effect (affect?) them negatively.
3. To protect yourself from some type of admonishment because of something someone did.
4. To prolong a lie told previously.
5. Again, long list.

I guess the depth of the lie(s) also dictate whether or not it is too much. You also have too consider your OWN tolerances. If "they" lie about paying a bill for example, but get it paid on time with no fees, are they the big bad satan? It depends. Will lies like that blossom into other areas of life? They may. It's a slippery slope that we would all benefit from avoiding. I did my d@mndest to make sure my profile was lie free. Note: There may be an exaggeration or two though...

I don't really like interior decorating, I just like spoiling myself.

See!

One person tells them... the other believes them.
(Or at least pretends to.)
Where's the difference?

Is this purely a hypothetical situation?

Really good point! What about the lie of omission? Just not mentioning something - isn't that a lie too!?

in some shape form or fashion... "Everyone Lies"

ok so everyone lies.... got that.

How about I add a twist?
The severity of a lie....different?
The frequency of lies....different?

I'm asking because I'm being told that everyone lies by my ex...whom is an ex for being an impostor type of liar. Someone who paints himself from the beginning as something he is NOT kind of liar. But will also lie about whether he went fishing that day or not. Liar liar liar all the time lying about one thing or the other. I understand that everyone can lie from time to time. In my book though, if you lie to me...you come back with the truth asap and tell me you lied, and that you are sorry, and will try harder to muster the courage to not do it again. Then you get forgiveness. Otherwise? If I have to catch you, it's totally different.

To me what lying is??? A lack of courage to tell it like it is. If you did it? FESS it! If you don't want to have to? Then don't do stupid crap to cause the temptation to lie in the first place.
Simple.

Oh geez... are you still here?

(Ha, don't let my seemlingly obvious emotions come off as a lie... I'm really glad that you are. You're profound insights to the obvious are a help to me.)

dbl post... sorry.

Someone sounds somewhat angry...I know how you feel. And that's no lie.

Twists, okay:

The severity of a lie....it matters (to me)
The frequency of lies....they matter (to me)

Point #1-If there is no way in hell you can logically justify the lie in which someone has told, then that lie is too much for you. Tell the person, and if they concede to the fact that they lied, apologize, maybe produce some flowers, and NEVER DO IT AGAIN, then you should work on finding some forgiveness. If not, Guy's song comes to mind, "Now I'm sayin bye bye to you..."

Point #2-Once the lie threshold had been reached, and you find yourself questioning most of what comes out of their mouth, talk about it, and again, if no resolution can be sought, they need to gee-oh. Life is challenging enough without having to decipher, decode, analyze, and certify if something that is said is the truth or not. I'm tired just from typing it, I can't imagine doing it! (any more) This is why somebody don't live here anymore.



Summary: You're right, but maybe it ain't really "simple" so much as it isn't that hard...

Here's simple... trust your own intuition.
Acknowledge that it all hurt you deeply.
Quit expectly liars to start telling the truth,
just because you've come to an epiphany.

(But don't hate liars... focus on loving yerself. And your intuition.)

Many couples are together, where one or both of the people are liars. I would not want a liar for a partner, I could never trust them. However, there are people, that can live years in relationships like that, and also many people date liars every day. Sad.

$hit yea... .finally...I thought so. I thought I was dealing with too much.
"Life is challenging enough without having to decipher, decode, analyze, and certify if something that is said is the truth or not. I'm tired just from typing it, I can't imagine doing it!"

The a$$ hat I was with told me 3.5 years worth of lies. All the kinds you described. Then the tard thought is was a good idea to get impatient with my trust coming back....psh... really?
No exaggeration whatsoever.

Thank you.