I think everyone in the world is a liar but we sugar coat it by saying its a "white lie" or that they lied so they wouldn't hurt someone. A lie is a lie and the extent or the reason behind it doesn't change the fact that it is a lie. When a woman asks a man if she looks fat; men usually say no.

Hard to tell.
My eyes ain't so good and your pics are at a distance.
You look pretty hot to me and you don't seem to have a lot of makeup on.

Me. I would be honored to think some sweet lady, such as yourself, saw me as a compliment to her.

Can't understand why you or Ms Jeannie are still flying solo.

Ya'll both beautiful and grown women.

My point is that good looks are just one thing. There are other things that women find attractive and will keep them coming back. I used the money example because it's easy to see. If a man is weak in one area he can make up for it in others.

Looks are NOT the reason the sex goes. Anger and attitudes are.

Merely the statement that it's about how you feel about each other and physical atraction is part of that.

Texas, I'm not thick and I know people are turned on by other things apart from looks. Just find it odd that you pick having a big wad of cash as the most obvious example.

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Looks are NOT the reason the sex goes. Anger and attitudes are.


Merely the statement that it's about how you feel about each other and physical atraction is part of that.

Texas, I'm not thick and I know people are turned on by other things apart from looks. Just find it odd that you pick having a big wad of cash as the most obvious example.



This is sooooo not the point.... honestly, guys who gives a flying fig Why someone is attracted not attracted ...
ITS THE 1ST MEETING... not a relationship!
If you want to pose the question.. Sexless marriage..who's fault is it! I certainly will contribute to that discussion!

Just my thoughts teebee79 but I believe that some people - both guys and gals - believe that if they can just get one chance/date they can change the other person opinion. I believe that possibility is so small that it is far better to not push it. Others don't really believe they will meet anyone of substance so their online presence becomes more of an alter ego type personality. Either a reflection of what they were or what they aspire to be but perhaps not necessarily what they are right at this present moment.

I also think we are very careful with our descriptions. A man's concept of athletic (in general decent shape) and a woman's (smoking hot male model type) are two different things. A BBW has come to mean everything from 5 pounds overweight to several pounds overweight, again depending on who is viewing it. To me if you are a size 12 you are not a BBW but I have seen many women describe themselves that way.

I tell the truth and if it means I remain relatively dateless, I am perfectly ok with that. I am at a stage in life that I want them to be attracted to me, not just settle for me because they are desperate to be in a relationship or have some need a man in their life issue that I don't have time to diffuse. I am short at 5'5". That means it gets automatically assumed and attached that all of the things associated with short men including insecurity, Napoleon complex, unable to protect a woman, penis size, sexually inadequate everything are included in that package. That comes from numerous females I have talked to over the years as to why they did not like to date short men. So when it comes to this I know why some men choose to lie about it. I won't, but I get it.

I am 48 (for a couple more days )- too old for some, not old enough for others - average body type, self employed and work hard, and give back to the community. That right there knocks out in my personal experience about 90 percent of the available female dating pool (including you teebee ) leaving 10 percent of women that might overlook or be attracted to those things you mention.

Now out of that remaining 10 percent I have to be able to discern if they are lying about themselves as well. Are their "enhancements" a lie to me or is that ok? Are their pics are accurate. Should I chance meeting with them? And how do I react if they are not who they have portrayed themselves to be? Especially when men have been faulted for not being to look past the physical - even if a woman has lied to him about it?

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Now out of that remaining 10 percent I have to be able to discern if they are lying about themselves as well. Are their "enhancements" a lie to me or is that ok? Are their pics are accurate. Should I chance meeting with them? And how do I react if they are not who they have portrayed themselves to be? Especially when men have been faulted for not being to look past the physical - even if a woman has lied to him about it?


It was pointed out to me that I did have an age filter... my bad! it has been fixed!
To me... Regardless of what he/ she is attracted to ...tell the truth
Let them decide if you are what they want.

I'm attracted to tall men who are athletic... it doesn't mean that Ive never been out with or fell head over heels for a short one with a pot belly.

Let me decide.

It was pointed out to me that I did have an age filter... my bad! it has been fixed!
To me... Regardless of what he/ she is attracted to ...tell the truth
Let them decide if you are what they want.

I'm attracted to tall men who are athletic... it doesn't mean that Ive never been out with or fell head over heels for a short one with a pot belly.

Let me decide.

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That is fair and the way it should be. Preferences are fine. Preferences to me does not mean I can't say hi or be friends - it just lets me know that likelihood of anything more than that is slim.

Preferences to the point of complete exclusion are extreme and often lead to loneliness.

Preferences with possible exceptions on case by case basis - Just let me know up front and let me decide. I can be friends with anyone. Anything more takes time. It will never happen if you lie right up front.

Merely the statement that it's about how you feel about each other and physical atraction is part of that.

Texas, I'm not thick and I know people are turned on by other things apart from looks. Just find it odd that you pick having a big wad of cash as the most obvious example.



This is sooooo not the point.... honestly, guys who gives a flying fig Why someone is attracted not attracted ...
ITS THE 1ST MEETING... not a relationship!
If you want to pose the question.. Sexless marriage..who's fault is it! I certainly will contribute to that discussion!


Not sure if you are a mod but can't they split it then?

WOW a man who finally told the trueth.

I rarely wear makeup, I like lipstick, but most men do not like kissing women with lipstick. I like kissing when I really like a man.

Merely the statement that it's about how you feel about each other and physical atraction is part of that.

Texas, I'm not thick and I know people are turned on by other things apart from looks. Just find it odd that you pick having a big wad of cash as the most obvious example.



This is sooooo not the point.... honestly, guys who gives a flying fig Why someone is attracted not attracted ...
ITS THE 1ST MEETING... not a relationship!
If you want to pose the question.. Sexless marriage..who's fault is it! I certainly will contribute to that discussion!

My father taught me to never tell a lie, unless, of course, it was absolutely convenient

I use to lie until I met a split personality type…
Now when I meet someone I’m honest and blunt… if they don’t like me for it then I’ll stay single forever… I have a very bad memory anyway and I would just get caught at it… One guy dislikes my forgetfulness cause he thinks it’s a sign I don’t pay attention, but that’s why I write things down that way I can go back to it…
So anybody who wants to at least talk to me must accept my honesty and memory problems… Otherwise "Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)"