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![]() At a Cuban Independence Day celebration in Miami, Fla., in 2008 Seeing No Evil Those without experience of evil and subject to modern education will not understand America. By Dennis Prager November 27, 2012 12:00 A.M. If you want to understand why President Obama was reelected despite a largely unsuccessful presidency and almost unprecedentedly high and continuous unemployment, just look at the Cuban-American vote. In fact, if you want to understand America today — specifically, why it is in decline — just look at the Cuban-American vote. As reported in the Wall Street Journal, “The president captured 48% of the Cuban-American vote in Florida — a record high for a Democrat.” Democratic presidential nominees went from 25 percent of the Cuban-American vote in 2000, to 29 percent in 2004, to 35 percent in 2008, to 48 percent in 2012. We obviously have a dramatic trend here. Now, why would that be? There are two reasons: No experience of evil, and American education. The first generation of Cuban-Americans had escaped Communist evil. People who know evil are generally conservative. Leftism and liberalism — no longer distinguishable — are rooted in large measure in naïveté and wishful thinking. The beliefs that people are basically good and that evil regimes can virtually always be negotiated with are two such examples. Also, when you escape a Communist regime, you treasure liberty and you understand that as government and state expand, liberty must contract. That is why Jews from the Soviet Union are the only non-Orthodox Jews who vote in the majority for Republicans. They, too, know evil, and they recognize the destructive appeal of the big, take-care-of-you state. The other reason for the dramatic shift in the Cuban-American vote is American education. Most American elementary schools and high schools, and nearly all colleges and universities, teach everything that is significant from a liberal/Left perspective. Multiculturalism has replaced E Pluribus Unum; the American past is villainous; the country is racist; morality is relative; and the left-wing cause of the day — now global warming — is taught as incontrovertible truth (ask your children how many times they have been shown Al Gore’s global warming video, An Inconvenient Truth, and whether they have been taught both sides of the man-made-global-warming-leading-to-catastrophe hypothesis). American schools, especially universities, are left-wing seminaries. The only difference between your local college and a Christian seminary is that the latter is more honest. The Christian seminary announces its goal — to graduate committed Christians. The universities deceive when they say they have no agenda other than to open minds. They may believe this deception, but it is a deception nevertheless. Almost no university ever has a conservative speaker at its commencement exercises; nearly every professor in liberal-arts departments is a Democrat (and a left-wing Democrat at that); and on the few occasions that conservatives do receive an invitation to speak at a college, they are likely to be continuously heckled, may well need body guards, or might have their invitation rescinded, as with Fordham University and Ann Coulter last week. Members of the second Cuban-American generation have been far more influenced by their schools and by television shows than by their parents. And the same holds true for second- and third- and fourth- and fifth-generation Americans of every background. A long time ago, schools taught American history, not Politically Correct American history, as mandated, for example, by California law — which forbids the use of any textbooks that do not emphasize the roles of women, blacks, Hispanics, gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and the transgendered. And a long time ago, most Americans knew what America stood for and taught it to the next generation. In other words, even conservatives have largely forgotten either the distinctive American values system or how to communicate it. Meanwhile the Left has been utterly clear about what leftism stands for and has used the schools, the news media, and the entertainment industries to transmit its values. As a result, the American Trinity of Liberty, In God We Trust, and E Pluribus Unum has been supplanted with Egalitarianism, Secularism, and Multiculturalism — Europe’s trinity. And that is why the children of Cuban-Americans, like the children of virtually every other group in America, including White Anglo-Saxon Protestant children, increasingly vote Left. Either conservatives — from presidential candidates to the rest of us — learn what we stand for and learn to communicate it, or the greatest experiment in making a good society will come to its end. — Dennis Prager is a nationally syndicated radio talk-show host and columnist. He may be contacted through his website, dennisprager.com. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/334100/seeing-no-evil-dennis-prager?utm_source=scribol.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=scribol.com |
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Excellent article. When I was in college I was overwhelmed by the "push" towards liberal thought. I have witnessed that march ever since.
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msharmony
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Sat 12/22/12 06:49 AM
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if you want to know why obama was reelected
look here ![]() even where he governed, in massachussets, Romney only got 38% of the vote, so it may not be so simple as 'cuban americans' or lefties, being those in mass had voted Romney in before,, |
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if you want to know why obama was reelected look here ![]() even where he governed, in massachussets, Romney only got 38% of the vote, so it may not be so simple as 'cuban americans' or lefties, being those in mass had voted Romney in before,, @ wrongs will never equal a right! Everyone knew Obama was evil with an agenda after 4 years. Romneys policies were no different, but he wanted War, War, and more war, and wasn't shy about it. Obama on the other hand, also want's war, but the lying sneak that he is hides most of his actions behind media silence and coverup. There's your difference! |
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JustDukkyMkII
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the lying sneak that he is hides most of his actions behind media silence and coverup. Like his openly wanting to ban semi-auto weapons permanently since before he was even elected in '08 and now pretending that this massacre may "force him" to take such drastic action to cure a problem that clearly doesn't exist? |
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if you want to know why obama was reelected look here ![]() even where he governed, in massachussets, Romney only got 38% of the vote, so it may not be so simple as 'cuban americans' or lefties, being those in mass had voted Romney in before,, TRUE.... |
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if you want to know why obama was reelected look here ![]() even where he governed, in massachussets, Romney only got 38% of the vote, so it may not be so simple as 'cuban americans' or lefties, being those in mass had voted Romney in before,, TRUE.... I wasn't fond of Romney either (I'm an Independent) and I think the Republicans could have made a better choice. However, the point of the OP is that there has been a constant educational bias towards the left for many years and the bias has worked. Especially the ignorant young think the pie-in-the-sky BS of the liberal left is "good" verses the reality that it is about to bankrupt America both morally and financially. |
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Thank you, metalwing, for seeing the focus of this thread!
I've always seen leftism as a religion. The blind faith that it takes to follow it. The unrelenting mindset. Here is another related article by Prager: "The World's Most Dynamic Religion Is ... Tuesday, October 02, 2012 For at least the last hundred years, the world's most dynamic religion has been neither Christianity nor Islam. It is leftism. Most people do not recognize what is probably the single most important fact of modern life. One reason is that leftism is overwhelmingly secular (more than merely secular: it is inherently opposed to all traditional religions), and therefore people do not regard it as a religion. Another is that leftism so convincingly portrays itself as solely the product of reason, intellect, and science that it has not been seen as the dogma-based ideology that it is. Therefore, the vast majority of the people who affirm leftist beliefs think of their views as the only way to properly think about life. That, in turn, explains why anyone who opposes leftism is labeled anti-intellectual, anti-progress, anti-science, anti-minority and anti-reason (among many other pejorative epithets): leftists truly believe that there is no other way to think. How successful has leftism been? It dominates the thinking of Europe, much of Latin America, Canada, and Asia, as well as the thinking of the political and intellectual elites of most of the world. Outside of the Muslim world, it is virtually the only way in which news is reported and virtually the only way in which young people are educated from elementary school through university. Only the United States, of all Western countries, has resisted leftism. But that resistance is fading as increasing numbers of Americans abandon traditional Judeo-Christian religions, lead secular lives, are educated by teachers whose views are almost uniformly left-wing and are exposed on a daily basis virtually exclusively to leftist views in their news and entertainment media. And when there is resistance, the left declares it "extremist." Merely believing that marriage should remain defined as it has been throughout recorded history, as between a man and a woman, renders you an extremist. So, too, belief that government should be small -- the Tea Party position -- renders one an extremist. Last week, the managing editor of Time Magazine, Richard Stengel, said on MSNBC that the Salafis, the most radical Islamist sect, are "the Tea Party of Muslim democracy." Even Christianity and Judaism, the pillars of Judeo-Christian values, the moral value system upon which America was founded and thanks to which it became the world's beacon of liberty, have been widely influenced by leftism. Many priests, ministers, rabbis and many Jewish and Christian seminaries are leftist in content and Jewish or Christian only in form. Years ago, I debated one of the most prominent rabbis in the Conservative movement of Judaism on the issue of whether morality must be God-based. The Ivy League Ph.D., yarmulke-wearing rabbi argued that God was not morally necessary. If you want to understand why so many Jews vote left while nearly all the Western world's opposition to -- and frequently hatred of -- Israel emanates from the left, one explanation is this: For most American Jews, their religion is leftism, while Judaism is their ethnicity and culture. The Reform, and increasingly the Conservative, movements have, to a large extent, become political movements that use Hebrew and Jewish rituals to equate Judaism with progressive politics. Within mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism, the same dominance of leftist values exists. The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops largely holds the same social and economic views as the Democratic Party and The New York Times editorial page. It differs with the left with regard to same-sex marriage, abortion and religious freedom issues such as those pertaining to Catholic hospitals and government-funded contraception. As for mainstream Protestant denominations, they, too, are largely indistinguishable from leftism. Proof? Ask a liberal Protestant minister to name one important area in which he and leftism differ. Ask a liberal Reform or Conservative rabbi the same question. Their silence will be telling. The truth is that the left has been far more successful in converting in converting Jews and Christians to Leftism than Christianity and Judaism have been in influencing leftists to convert to Christianity or Judaism. Finally, leftism has even attained considerable success at undoing the central American values of liberty, "In God We Trust," and "E Pluribus Unum," supplanting liberty with egalitarianism, a God-based society with secularism, and "E Pluribus Unum" with multiculturalism. (I make this case at length in "Still the Best Hope: Why the World Needs American Values to Triumph" [HarperCollins].) This triumph of the twentieth century's most dynamic religion -- leftism -- is why, even in the midst of an ongoing recession, the leftist candidate may win. As I wrote in my last column, it's not just the economy, stupid. Dennis Prager's latest book, "Still the Best Hope: Why the World Needs American Values to Triumph," was published April 24 by HarperCollins. He is a nationally syndicated radio show host and creator of PragerUniversity.Com. COPYRIGHT 2012 CREATORS.COM" |
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if you want to know why obama was reelected look here ![]() even where he governed, in massachussets, Romney only got 38% of the vote, so it may not be so simple as 'cuban americans' or lefties, being those in mass had voted Romney in before,, @ wrongs will never equal a right! Everyone knew Obama was evil with an agenda after 4 years. Romneys policies were no different, but he wanted War, War, and more war, and wasn't shy about it. Obama on the other hand, also want's war, but the lying sneak that he is hides most of his actions behind media silence and coverup. There's your difference! romney sucked, romney lost,, cant really read more into it than that not much different than how every other presidential election goes not sure why someone wanting more war would pull troops OUT of iraq,, oh yeah cause he is 'evil' and between ruining the economy and tryint do disarm the public manages to single handedly edit and dictate tot he media every story before they air it,,,,.... ![]() ![]() |
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if you want to know why obama was reelected look here ![]() even where he governed, in massachussets, Romney only got 38% of the vote, so it may not be so simple as 'cuban americans' or lefties, being those in mass had voted Romney in before,, TRUE.... I wasn't fond of Romney either (I'm an Independent) and I think the Republicans could have made a better choice. However, the point of the OP is that there has been a constant educational bias towards the left for many years and the bias has worked. Especially the ignorant young think the pie-in-the-sky BS of the liberal left is "good" verses the reality that it is about to bankrupt America both morally and financially. there was such liberal school bias when Bush was elected as well, and when Romney won the governors seat,, so I dont agree that that is really the reason one candidate beat the other I may be wrong, but there is an old saying, if you arent moving forward or moving backward, you are standing still I think that more people were tired of 'standing still' , more people were interested in moving forward, than going 'back' as was the campaign of so many republicans these past few years taking america 'back' may be a victory chant for some,, but for many others who remember some of the things america has been capable of, the fear of what it might be taken 'back' to was stronger |
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Thank you, metalwing, for seeing the focus of this thread! I've always seen leftism as a religion. The blind faith that it takes to follow it. The unrelenting mindset. Here is another related article by Prager: "The World's Most Dynamic Religion Is ... Tuesday, October 02, 2012 For at least the last hundred years, the world's most dynamic religion has been neither Christianity nor Islam. It is leftism. Most people do not recognize what is probably the single most important fact of modern life. One reason is that leftism is overwhelmingly secular (more than merely secular: it is inherently opposed to all traditional religions), and therefore people do not regard it as a religion. Another is that leftism so convincingly portrays itself as solely the product of reason, intellect, and science that it has not been seen as the dogma-based ideology that it is. Therefore, the vast majority of the people who affirm leftist beliefs think of their views as the only way to properly think about life. That, in turn, explains why anyone who opposes leftism is labeled anti-intellectual, anti-progress, anti-science, anti-minority and anti-reason (among many other pejorative epithets): leftists truly believe that there is no other way to think. How successful has leftism been? It dominates the thinking of Europe, much of Latin America, Canada, and Asia, as well as the thinking of the political and intellectual elites of most of the world. Outside of the Muslim world, it is virtually the only way in which news is reported and virtually the only way in which young people are educated from elementary school through university. Only the United States, of all Western countries, has resisted leftism. But that resistance is fading as increasing numbers of Americans abandon traditional Judeo-Christian religions, lead secular lives, are educated by teachers whose views are almost uniformly left-wing and are exposed on a daily basis virtually exclusively to leftist views in their news and entertainment media. And when there is resistance, the left declares it "extremist." Merely believing that marriage should remain defined as it has been throughout recorded history, as between a man and a woman, renders you an extremist. So, too, belief that government should be small -- the Tea Party position -- renders one an extremist. Last week, the managing editor of Time Magazine, Richard Stengel, said on MSNBC that the Salafis, the most radical Islamist sect, are "the Tea Party of Muslim democracy." Even Christianity and Judaism, the pillars of Judeo-Christian values, the moral value system upon which America was founded and thanks to which it became the world's beacon of liberty, have been widely influenced by leftism. Many priests, ministers, rabbis and many Jewish and Christian seminaries are leftist in content and Jewish or Christian only in form. Years ago, I debated one of the most prominent rabbis in the Conservative movement of Judaism on the issue of whether morality must be God-based. The Ivy League Ph.D., yarmulke-wearing rabbi argued that God was not morally necessary. If you want to understand why so many Jews vote left while nearly all the Western world's opposition to -- and frequently hatred of -- Israel emanates from the left, one explanation is this: For most American Jews, their religion is leftism, while Judaism is their ethnicity and culture. The Reform, and increasingly the Conservative, movements have, to a large extent, become political movements that use Hebrew and Jewish rituals to equate Judaism with progressive politics. Within mainstream Protestantism and Catholicism, the same dominance of leftist values exists. The United States Conference of Catholic Bishops largely holds the same social and economic views as the Democratic Party and The New York Times editorial page. It differs with the left with regard to same-sex marriage, abortion and religious freedom issues such as those pertaining to Catholic hospitals and government-funded contraception. As for mainstream Protestant denominations, they, too, are largely indistinguishable from leftism. Proof? Ask a liberal Protestant minister to name one important area in which he and leftism differ. Ask a liberal Reform or Conservative rabbi the same question. Their silence will be telling. The truth is that the left has been far more successful in converting in converting Jews and Christians to Leftism than Christianity and Judaism have been in influencing leftists to convert to Christianity or Judaism. Finally, leftism has even attained considerable success at undoing the central American values of liberty, "In God We Trust," and "E Pluribus Unum," supplanting liberty with egalitarianism, a God-based society with secularism, and "E Pluribus Unum" with multiculturalism. (I make this case at length in "Still the Best Hope: Why the World Needs American Values to Triumph" [HarperCollins].) This triumph of the twentieth century's most dynamic religion -- leftism -- is why, even in the midst of an ongoing recession, the leftist candidate may win. As I wrote in my last column, it's not just the economy, stupid. Dennis Prager's latest book, "Still the Best Hope: Why the World Needs American Values to Triumph," was published April 24 by HarperCollins. He is a nationally syndicated radio show host and creator of PragerUniversity.Com. COPYRIGHT 2012 CREATORS.COM" The religious conflict has never been based on leftism, or indeed on any political philosophy. From the dawn of time there have really only been two religions, the worship of freedom by the people and the worship of tyranny by the tyrant. Both religions rely on the power of the people, in the former case to attain and preserve their freedom, and in the latter to usurp by theft and deception that power from its true holder (the people) to enslave and oppress them. All the events of human history highlight the conflict between these two religions, and it appears that the tyrant has always proved the superiority of his religion by accepting from the less "religious" majority of a free-by-default people, their "gift" of undeserved power which the tyrant then wields like a sword against them. Who among us is so foolish as to remove our Sword of Damocles from over the heads of people who might in turn hang it over OUR heads? Didn't the lesson that Damocles learned teach us anything at all? |
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I may be wrong, but there is an old saying, if you arent moving forward or moving backward, you are standing still I think that more people were tired of 'standing still' , more people were interested in moving forward, than going 'back' as was the campaign of so many republicans these past few years taking america 'back' may be a victory chant for some,, but for many others who remember some of the things america has been capable of, the fear of what it might be taken 'back' to was stronger Msharmony, do you no longer want America to stand? Did let go your grip of the reins? Have you resolved to fold your hands and become a follower? Where you allow yourself to be led... may be far worse than what you abandon. You and I... all of us... are the cause of the "things" whereby America has recessed. "We all like sheep have gone astray, every man his own way." We've slept when we should have been vigilant. We still have a home. It just needs careful repairs. I've always been of the mindframe of "if you don't know which way to go...go right". Which is by no means following a group or a crowd. This thread about blindly following left thinking. ... not about who won the election...nor who was the better man. |
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Sat 12/22/12 02:29 PM
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![]() Keep it simple. The elections are all rigged. And Romney is a Moron. |
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As scary as Obama might be, I don't think I could have stood four years of seeing Romney droning on with his canned rhetoric.
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msharmony
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I may be wrong, but there is an old saying, if you arent moving forward or moving backward, you are standing still I think that more people were tired of 'standing still' , more people were interested in moving forward, than going 'back' as was the campaign of so many republicans these past few years taking america 'back' may be a victory chant for some,, but for many others who remember some of the things america has been capable of, the fear of what it might be taken 'back' to was stronger Msharmony, do you no longer want America to stand? Did let go your grip of the reins? Have you resolved to fold your hands and become a follower? Where you allow yourself to be led... may be far worse than what you abandon. You and I... all of us... are the cause of the "things" whereby America has recessed. "We all like sheep have gone astray, every man his own way." We've slept when we should have been vigilant. We still have a home. It just needs careful repairs. I've always been of the mindframe of "if you don't know which way to go...go right". Which is by no means following a group or a crowd. This thread about blindly following left thinking. ... not about who won the election...nor who was the better man. do I no longer want america to stand? not sure what that even means did I let go my grip of the reins? which grip do you refer to,,what reigns? have I resolved myself to fold my hands and become a follower? no, in fact, that is why I feel free to disagree with others here and elsewhere,, where I allow myself to be led may be far worst than what you abandon tht is true for everyone, I think the simpler saying is 'the grass isnt always greener on the other side' we all have gone astray, something we agree upon, generally, its the culture and the population that has to change starting in our homes, not with a representative government it seemed like the thread was about the election,, let me recheck the title... Seeing no evil and the first sentence If you want to know why President Obama was reelected ,, so , I must have been mistaken to infer from that that electing Obama was some evidence of 'evil' winning,,,,? If I inferred incorrectly, I apologize.... my point is, this election was no different than those before it, 'evil' as is called here is called 'freedom' elsewhere and those concepts have overlapped for a while now , beyond this or any election in my adult lifetime that 'evil' would be no less present or evident regardless of who had won the presidential election,,, |
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Excellent article. When I was in college I was overwhelmed by the "push" towards liberal thought. I have witnessed that march ever since. This is my point! "We obviously have a dramatic trend here. Now, why would that be? There are two reasons: No experience of evil, and American education. The first generation of Cuban-Americans had escaped Communist evil. People who know evil are generally conservative. Leftism and liberalism — no longer distinguishable — are rooted in large measure in naïveté and wishful thinking. The beliefs that people are basically good and that evil regimes can virtually always be negotiated with are two such examples. Also, when you escape a Communist regime, you treasure liberty and you understand that as government and state expand, liberty must contract. That is why Jews from the Soviet Union are the only non-Orthodox Jews who vote in the majority for Republicans. They, too, know evil, and they recognize the destructive appeal of the big, take-care-of-you state. The other reason for the dramatic shift in the Cuban-American vote is American education. Most American elementary schools and high schools, and nearly all colleges and universities, teach everything that is significant from a liberal/Left perspective. Multiculturalism has replaced E Pluribus Unum; the American past is villainous; the country is racist; morality is relative; and the left-wing cause of the day — now global warming — is taught as incontrovertible truth (ask your children how many times they have been shown Al Gore’s global warming video, An Inconvenient Truth, and whether they have been taught both sides of the man-made-global-warming-leading-to-catastrophe hypothesis). American schools, especially universities, are left-wing seminaries. The only difference between your local college and a Christian seminary is that the latter is more honest. The Christian seminary announces its goal — to graduate committed Christians. The universities deceive when they say they have no agenda other than to open minds. They may believe this deception, but it is a deception nevertheless. Almost no university ever has a conservative speaker at its commencement exercises; nearly every professor in liberal-arts departments is a Democrat (and a left-wing Democrat at that); and on the few occasions that conservatives do receive an invitation to speak at a college, they are likely to be continuously heckled, may well need body guards, or might have their invitation rescinded, as with Fordham University and Ann Coulter last week. Members of the second Cuban-American generation have been far more influenced by their schools and by television shows than by their parents. And the same holds true for second- and third- and fourth- and fifth-generation Americans of every background. A long time ago, schools taught American history, not Politically Correct American history, as mandated, for example, by California law — which forbids the use of any textbooks that do not emphasize the roles of women, blacks, Hispanics, gays, lesbians, bisexuals, and the transgendered. And a long time ago, most Americans knew what America stood for and taught it to the next generation. In other words, even conservatives have largely forgotten either the distinctive American values system or how to communicate it. Meanwhile the Left has been utterly clear about what leftism stands for and has used the schools, the news media, and the entertainment industries to transmit its values. As a result, the American Trinity of Liberty, In God We Trust, and E Pluribus Unum has been supplanted with Egalitarianism, Secularism, and Multiculturalism — Europe’s trinity. And that is why the children of Cuban-Americans, like the children of virtually every other group in America, including White Anglo-Saxon Protestant children, increasingly vote Left. Either conservatives — from presidential candidates to the rest of us — learn what we stand for and learn to communicate it, or the greatest experiment in making a good society will come to its end." |
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Well, I guess that our education system finally realized that a conservative standpoint wasn't exactly "Golden" either.
Here...I'll make it easy; you're all wrong. |
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Well, I guess that our education system finally realized that a conservative standpoint wasn't exactly "Golden" either. Here...I'll make it easy; you're all wrong. ![]() ![]() ![]() all this talk of good and evil,,,as political points,,baffles me when were we ever 'good'? with any example given of todays 'evil' , there are similar examples present in EVERY era of American history,,, evil has been there and will be there, certainly killing native americans and taking their land was not a 'good' thing enslaving a people based upon their ancestry, and enslaving and raping their children was not a 'good' thing treating a race of people systematically as second class, less than human,, was not a 'good' thing taking God out of the schools was not a 'good' thing pushing homosexuality into the mainstream was not a 'good' thing,,, ,,,did I miss any point in American History? yet we still manage to choose the candidates based upon any number of criteria personal to each of us and this election , was really no more or less about 'evil' than any other |
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Well, I guess that our education system finally realized that a conservative standpoint wasn't exactly "Golden" either. Here...I'll make it easy; you're all wrong. I take it you're needing a little attention. ![]() |
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I'm not really clear on the differences between conservative and Liberal.
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