Topic: Seeing No Evil
msharmony's photo
Sun 12/23/12 11:40 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 12/23/12 11:51 AM

I'm not really clear on the differences between conservative and Liberal.




I think I got it,,ready?

If I consider myself conservative,,,,anything thats not what I believe is liberal


IF I consider myself liberal, ....anything thats not what I believe is conservative...


laugh


more help
http://www.anvari.org/fun/Political/You_Might_Be_a_Liberal_if____.html


http://www.anvari.org/fun/Political/You_Might_Be_a_Conservative_if____.html

FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 12/23/12 12:09 PM


Well, I guess that our education system finally realized that a conservative standpoint wasn't exactly "Golden" either.

Here...I'll make it easy; you're all wrong.


I take it you're needing a little attention. waving




And I've already assumed a lot of you don't take well to differing opinions...Shame, really, we could learn so much from each other if we just quit b******* about the other side so much.

no photo
Sun 12/23/12 12:19 PM
msharmony - love the links. Very clever!

Neither Romney nor Obama should have been elected. Why do we have a two-party system? Why do we limit ourselves to agendas propogated by irrelevant iconic fascination and funded by ghost investors?

The political system is like Coke and Pepsi - they're probably owned by the same people or benefactors and no matter which of them you choose you'll still end up ingesting poison.

no photo
Sun 12/23/12 12:19 PM



-evil has been there and will be there, certainly killing native americans and taking their land was not a 'good' thing

-enslaving a people based upon their ancestry, and enslaving and raping their children was not a 'good' thing

-treating a race of people systematically as second class, less than human,, was not a 'good' thing

-taking God out of the schools was not a 'good' thing

-pushing homosexuality into the mainstream was not a 'good' thing,,,



Evil has escalated...and continues to worsen.

When moral values are overrided by radical rebellious thought;
Disregard for human life and well-being.
Evil today is a dark horse called "liberalism".
And that beast has many riders.
Liberalism is anti-christ and anti-American

As mentioned before America has much good in it.
There are many things that need repair, starting with our educational system,...
but to let it America dissolve would be a terrible disaster.
Or to let it evolve into a socialistic society will have dire consequences.


msharmony's photo
Sun 12/23/12 12:28 PM




-evil has been there and will be there, certainly killing native americans and taking their land was not a 'good' thing

-enslaving a people based upon their ancestry, and enslaving and raping their children was not a 'good' thing

-treating a race of people systematically as second class, less than human,, was not a 'good' thing

-taking God out of the schools was not a 'good' thing

-pushing homosexuality into the mainstream was not a 'good' thing,,,



Evil has escalated...and continues to worsen.

When moral values are overrided by radical rebellious thought;
Disregard for human life and well-being.
Evil today is a dark horse called "liberalism".
And that beast has many riders.
Liberalism is anti-christ and anti-American

As mentioned before America has much good in it.
There are many things that need repair, starting with our educational system,...
but to let it America dissolve would be a terrible disaster.
Or to let it evolve into a socialistic society will have dire consequences.




I just disagree

eveil may have changed, but it has not grown,, instead of the blatant evil of yesteryears we have a more subtle evil that hides behind good intentions,,,

I dont think there is a way to quantify evil enough to determine if it has 'grown'

no photo
Sun 12/23/12 12:36 PM


I'm not really clear on the differences between conservative and Liberal.




I think I got it,,ready?

If I consider myself conservative,,,,anything thats not what I believe is liberal


IF I consider myself liberal, ....anything thats not what I believe is conservative...


laugh


more help
http://www.anvari.org/fun/Political/You_Might_Be_a_Liberal_if____.html


http://www.anvari.org/fun/Political/You_Might_Be_a_Conservative_if____.html


Your "bafflement" is showing! :tongue:


Dodo_David's photo
Sun 12/23/12 12:49 PM
Wow! This entire thread is based on a straw-man argument, that evil is defined by the kind of political system that you favor or do not favor.

To claim that liberalism is anti-christ is more than jumping the shark. It is pharisaic.

There is a reason why I disapprove of mixing politics with religion. All too often, people read their political views into whatever religious texts that they use.

no photo
Sun 12/23/12 12:55 PM





-evil has been there and will be there, certainly killing native americans and taking their land was not a 'good' thing

-enslaving a people based upon their ancestry, and enslaving and raping their children was not a 'good' thing

-treating a race of people systematically as second class, less than human,, was not a 'good' thing

-taking God out of the schools was not a 'good' thing

-pushing homosexuality into the mainstream was not a 'good' thing,,,



Evil has escalated...and continues to worsen.

When moral values are overrided by radical rebellious thought;
Disregard for human life and well-being.
Evil today is a dark horse called "liberalism".
And that beast has many riders.
Liberalism is anti-christ and anti-American

As mentioned before America has much good in it.
There are many things that need repair, starting with our educational system,...
but to let it America dissolve would be a terrible disaster.
Or to let it evolve into a socialistic society will have dire consequences.




I just disagree

instead of the blatant evil of yesteryears we have a more subtle evil that hides behind good intentions,,,

Yes, liberalism.


"And because iniquity shall abound,
the love of many shall wax cold."
Matthew 24:12



I dont think there is a way to quantify evil enough to determine if it has 'grown'


"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
2Timothy 3:13


(I'm referring to scripture because you say you are a Christian. You are, aren't you?)





FearandLoathing's photo
Sun 12/23/12 12:58 PM
Religion | Politics

That is how it was intended, we should really go back to that...Because, honestly, we're going to burn in a man-made fireball if we keep at it the way we are.

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/23/12 01:02 PM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 12/23/12 01:03 PM






-evil has been there and will be there, certainly killing native americans and taking their land was not a 'good' thing

-enslaving a people based upon their ancestry, and enslaving and raping their children was not a 'good' thing

-treating a race of people systematically as second class, less than human,, was not a 'good' thing

-taking God out of the schools was not a 'good' thing

-pushing homosexuality into the mainstream was not a 'good' thing,,,



Evil has escalated...and continues to worsen.

When moral values are overrided by radical rebellious thought;
Disregard for human life and well-being.
Evil today is a dark horse called "liberalism".
And that beast has many riders.
Liberalism is anti-christ and anti-American

As mentioned before America has much good in it.
There are many things that need repair, starting with our educational system,...
but to let it America dissolve would be a terrible disaster.
Or to let it evolve into a socialistic society will have dire consequences.




I just disagree

instead of the blatant evil of yesteryears we have a more subtle evil that hides behind good intentions,,,

Yes, liberalism.


"And because iniquity shall abound,
the love of many shall wax cold."
Matthew 24:12



I dont think there is a way to quantify evil enough to determine if it has 'grown'


"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
2Timothy 3:13


(I'm referring to scripture because you say you are a Christian. You are, aren't you?)








lol, in truest form,,,,,

Timothy discuesss the last days, of which no man shall know the date



Im sure God is capable of such a measure, such awareness, but men, not so much

I dont consider myself God,, do you?

JustDukkyMkII's photo
Sun 12/23/12 01:04 PM

Religion | Politics

That is how it was intended, we should really go back to that...Because, honestly, we're going to burn in a man-made fireball if we keep at it the way we are.


Are you saying you don't wanna attend the Great Weenie Roast? I don't know why anyone would wanna miss it...There'll be lotsa fireworks.

no photo
Sun 12/23/12 01:10 PM

Wow! This entire thread is based on a straw-man argument, that evil is defined by the kind of political system that you favor or do not favor.

To claim that liberalism is anti-christ is more than jumping the shark. It is pharisaic.

There is a reason why I disapprove of mixing politics with religion. All too often, people read their political views into whatever religious texts that they use.


Your political view is to omit the only truth this world can be salvaged by.

Claiming to be Christian, but denying His Word, even by excluding His Word is hypocritical.
It's also called "riding the fence".

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/23/12 01:17 PM


Wow! This entire thread is based on a straw-man argument, that evil is defined by the kind of political system that you favor or do not favor.

To claim that liberalism is anti-christ is more than jumping the shark. It is pharisaic.

There is a reason why I disapprove of mixing politics with religion. All too often, people read their political views into whatever religious texts that they use.


Your political view is to omit the only truth this world can be salvaged by.

Claiming to be Christian, but denying His Word, even by excluding His Word is hypocritical.
It's also called "riding the fence".




the jury is out

from jesus himsel

When you pray, be not like the pretenders, who prefer to pray in the synagogues and in the public square, in the sight of others. In truth I tell you, that is all the profit they will have. But you, when you pray, go into your inner chamber and, locking the door, pray there in hiding to your Father, and your Father who sees you in hiding will reward you" (Matthew 6:5-6).

(is HIDING your prayer to God, denying your relationship with God?)



truly, I dont believe we were all meant to impact in the same way, some impact through their actions, some have impact through their words,, and since we dont know the words and ACtions of people in this forum outside of this forum, we should probably steer clear of questioning whether they are christian or not,,,

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 12/23/12 01:21 PM


Wow! This entire thread is based on a straw-man argument, that evil is defined by the kind of political system that you favor or do not favor.

To claim that liberalism is anti-christ is more than jumping the shark. It is pharisaic.

There is a reason why I disapprove of mixing politics with religion. All too often, people read their political views into whatever religious texts that they use.


Your political view is to omit the only truth this world can be salvaged by.

Claiming to be Christian, but denying His Word, even by excluding His Word is hypocritical.
It's also called "riding the fence".



I do not read into the Bible political dogma that isn't there.

no photo
Sun 12/23/12 01:27 PM
Edited by CeriseRose on Sun 12/23/12 01:35 PM







-evil has been there and will be there, certainly killing native americans and taking their land was not a 'good' thing

-enslaving a people based upon their ancestry, and enslaving and raping their children was not a 'good' thing

-treating a race of people systematically as second class, less than human,, was not a 'good' thing

-taking God out of the schools was not a 'good' thing

-pushing homosexuality into the mainstream was not a 'good' thing,,,



Evil has escalated...and continues to worsen.

When moral values are overrided by radical rebellious thought;
Disregard for human life and well-being.
Evil today is a dark horse called "liberalism".
And that beast has many riders.
Liberalism is anti-christ and anti-American

As mentioned before America has much good in it.
There are many things that need repair, starting with our educational system,...
but to let it America dissolve would be a terrible disaster.
Or to let it evolve into a socialistic society will have dire consequences.




I just disagree

instead of the blatant evil of yesteryears we have a more subtle evil that hides behind good intentions,,,

Yes, liberalism.


"And because iniquity shall abound,
the love of many shall wax cold."
Matthew 24:12



I dont think there is a way to quantify evil enough to determine if it has 'grown'


"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
2Timothy 3:13


(I'm referring to scripture because you say you are a Christian. You are, aren't you?)








lol, in truest form,,,,,

Timothy discuesss the last days, of which no man shall know the date



Im sure God is capable of such a measure, such awareness, but men, not so much

I dont consider myself God,, do you?


Oh...did you take a little peek in the Bible?
keep it up you may get the right idea.

I don't claim to be God. We Christians,
including you and other's who claim to be, are ambassadors for Christ).

"Now then we are ambassadors for Christ,
as though God did beseech you by us:
we pray you in Christ's stead,
be ye reconciled to God."
2Corinthians 5:20


Like Obama said back then, "you folks haven't been reading your bibles"


Your liberal leaders are counting on you all to keep your Bibles closed!

Dodo_David's photo
Sun 12/23/12 02:03 PM
Your liberal leaders are counting on you all to keep your Bibles closed!


The pharisaic arguments just keep coming.

msharmony's photo
Sun 12/23/12 02:08 PM








-evil has been there and will be there, certainly killing native americans and taking their land was not a 'good' thing

-enslaving a people based upon their ancestry, and enslaving and raping their children was not a 'good' thing

-treating a race of people systematically as second class, less than human,, was not a 'good' thing

-taking God out of the schools was not a 'good' thing

-pushing homosexuality into the mainstream was not a 'good' thing,,,



Evil has escalated...and continues to worsen.

When moral values are overrided by radical rebellious thought;
Disregard for human life and well-being.
Evil today is a dark horse called "liberalism".
And that beast has many riders.
Liberalism is anti-christ and anti-American

As mentioned before America has much good in it.
There are many things that need repair, starting with our educational system,...
but to let it America dissolve would be a terrible disaster.
Or to let it evolve into a socialistic society will have dire consequences.




I just disagree

instead of the blatant evil of yesteryears we have a more subtle evil that hides behind good intentions,,,

Yes, liberalism.


"And because iniquity shall abound,
the love of many shall wax cold."
Matthew 24:12



I dont think there is a way to quantify evil enough to determine if it has 'grown'


"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
2Timothy 3:13


(I'm referring to scripture because you say you are a Christian. You are, aren't you?)








lol, in truest form,,,,,

Timothy discuesss the last days, of which no man shall know the date



Im sure God is capable of such a measure, such awareness, but men, not so much

I dont consider myself God,, do you?


Oh...did you take a little peek in the Bible?
keep it up you may get the right idea.

I don't claim to be God. We Christians,
including you and other's who claim to be, are ambassadors for Christ).

"Now then we are ambassadors for Christ,
as though God did beseech you by us:
we pray you in Christ's stead,
be ye reconciled to God."
2Corinthians 5:20


Like Obama said back then, "you folks haven't been reading your bibles"


Your liberal leaders are counting on you all to keep your Bibles closed!


high horse much?

whatever floats your boat, keep judging

but remember, even the devil has memorized the scriptures

God is more in our behaviors and our actions and our hearts, he provides us with the guidance of the bible, but even those without access to a bible or ability to read can be 'christian', and many of them more christian than those who can repeat chapter and verse for their own purposes,,,

no photo
Sun 12/23/12 02:33 PM

Your liberal leaders are counting on you all to keep your Bibles closed!


The pharisaic arguments just keep coming.

Yes, they do!

I just don't ride the fence...nor deny the faith.

I'm sure you've been labeled a Pharisee
on more than one occasion.






no photo
Sun 12/23/12 03:03 PM
Edited by CeriseRose on Sun 12/23/12 03:10 PM









-evil has been there and will be there, certainly killing native americans and taking their land was not a 'good' thing

-enslaving a people based upon their ancestry, and enslaving and raping their children was not a 'good' thing

-treating a race of people systematically as second class, less than human,, was not a 'good' thing

-taking God out of the schools was not a 'good' thing

-pushing homosexuality into the mainstream was not a 'good' thing,,,



Evil has escalated...and continues to worsen.

When moral values are overrided by radical rebellious thought;
Disregard for human life and well-being.
Evil today is a dark horse called "liberalism".
And that beast has many riders.
Liberalism is anti-christ and anti-American

As mentioned before America has much good in it.
There are many things that need repair, starting with our educational system,...
but to let it America dissolve would be a terrible disaster.
Or to let it evolve into a socialistic society will have dire consequences.




I just disagree

instead of the blatant evil of yesteryears we have a more subtle evil that hides behind good intentions,,,

Yes, liberalism.


"And because iniquity shall abound,
the love of many shall wax cold."
Matthew 24:12



I dont think there is a way to quantify evil enough to determine if it has 'grown'


"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
2Timothy 3:13


(I'm referring to scripture because you say you are a Christian. You are, aren't you?)








lol, in truest form,,,,,

Timothy discuesss the last days, of which no man shall know the date



Im sure God is capable of such a measure, such awareness, but men, not so much

I dont consider myself God,, do you?


Oh...did you take a little peek in the Bible?
keep it up you may get the right idea.

I don't claim to be God. We Christians,
including you and other's who claim to be, are ambassadors for Christ).

"Now then we are ambassadors for Christ,
as though God did beseech you by us:
we pray you in Christ's stead,
be ye reconciled to God."
2Corinthians 5:20


Like Obama said back then, "you folks haven't been reading your bibles"


Your liberal leaders are counting on you all to keep your Bibles closed!


high horse much?

whatever floats your boat, keep judging

but remember, even the devil has memorized the scriptures

God is more in our behaviors and our actions and our hearts, he provides us with the guidance of the bible, but even those without access to a bible or ability to read can be 'christian', and many of them more christian than those who can repeat chapter and verse for their own purposes,,,


No high horse here. No unrighteous judging!

Christians are encouraged to discern between righteousness and unrighteousness.

So that type of judging is kosher, msharmony.




Dodo_David's photo
Sun 12/23/12 03:12 PM


Your liberal leaders are counting on you all to keep your Bibles closed!


The pharisaic arguments just keep coming.

Yes, they do!

I just don't ride the fence...nor deny the faith.

I'm sure you've been labeled a Pharisee
on more than one occasion.



Christians who disagree with you politically aren't necessarily denying the Christian faith. Some Christians simply resist attempts to merge a particular set of political beliefs with Christianity. Such a thing is a pharisaic act that some Christians don't want any part of.