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Topic: (((((Shooting at Connecticut elementary school)))))
msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 12/16/12 04:29 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands?

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sun 12/16/12 04:32 PM
Gun control in the US is a lost cause. Periodic mass murders is just the price the citizens have to pay for that right. I Agree. And even if it is illegal to carry a gun; there will still be people carrying a gun. And, most of those people carrying will be folks like the NBP and other radical criminals who mean to kill and/or rob folks. Where concealed carry or open carry is legal there is less gun related violence. thats not a true statement or rather, it is misleading less than what? there are some concealed states where the rates are higher than other non concealed states there is no across the board causation there,,,, and NBP , Farrkhan, and Obama arent relevant to EVERY issue Like hell it's not true. NBP shows AK's. They are armed and dangerous. Race seems to be at the core of most of your missguided perceptions. The NBP party is no more armed then the ARYAN brotherhood, KKK, SKINHEADS, HAMMERSKINS, VOLKSFRONT, NATIONAL WHITE ALLIANCE or anyother hate group. In fact the true fear of gun regulations has nothing to do with goverment encroachment of gun rights nor fear of goverment repression, if thats the case then our goverment is the bad guy of which many would vehemently deny. The real reason is " is paranoid conspiracy theorists" who believe in future breakdown of society which will bring race wars, revolution ect. Fear is the true motivator for the great adamance to protect the right to bear arms. The fact is there will not be any solutions regarding this debate because there are no solutions. The fact is we are a dysfunctional, divided, mentaly sick, lovers of violence. Our culture is violent, our history is violent, our culture is violent, our foundation is built on violence, our children are violent, our games are violent, our children are conditioned and prone to violence, our fathers are violent, wifes live under constant violence. Playstaion games are extreme desentisizers to violence, xbox, is violent, hollywood is violent. It does not matter what is done in regards to such tragic crimes, OUR MINDS REMAIN THE SAME, therefore prepare for the next violent outburst from some criminal. The crime was committed by a angry young man who was obviousely deranged, psychotic and a coward. This has nothing to do with politics, its just the sad state of our societies mental recessiveness.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 12/16/12 04:34 PM
Gun control in the US is a lost cause. Periodic mass murders is just the price the citizens have to pay for that right. I Agree. And even if it is illegal to carry a gun; there will still be people carrying a gun. And, most of those people carrying will be folks like the NBP and other radical criminals who mean to kill and/or rob folks. Where concealed carry or open carry is legal there is less gun related violence. thats not a true statement or rather, it is misleading less than what? there are some concealed states where the rates are higher than other non concealed states there is no across the board causation there,,,, and NBP , Farrkhan, and Obama arent relevant to EVERY issue Like hell it's not true. NBP shows AK's. They are armed and dangerous. Race seems to be at the core of most of your missguided perceptions. The NBP party is no more armed then the ARYAN brotherhood, KKK, SKINHEADS, HAMMERSKINS, VOLKSFRONT, NATIONAL WHITE ALLIANCE or anyother hate group. In fact the true fear of gun regulations has nothing to do with goverment encroachment of gun rights nor fear of goverment repression, if thats the case then our goverment is the bad guy of which many would vehemently deny. The real reason is " is paranoid conspiracy theorists" who believe in future breakdown of society which will bring race wars, revolution ect. Fear is the true motivator for the great adamance to protect the right to bear arms. The fact is there will not be any solutions regarding this debate because there are no solutions. The fact is we are a dysfunctional, divided, mentaly sick, lovers of violence. Our culture is violent, our history is violent, our culture is violent, our foundation is built on violence, our children are violent, our games are violent, our children are conditioned and prone to violence, our fathers are violent, wifes live under constant violence. Playstaion games are extreme desentisizers to violence, xbox, is violent, hollywood is violent. It does not matter what is done in regards to such tragic crimes, OUR MINDS REMAIN THE SAME, therefore prepare for the next violent outburst from some criminal. The crime was committed by a angry young man who was obviousely deranged, psychotic and a coward. This has nothing to do with politics, its just the sad state of our societies mental recessiveness. it starts with the culture,, I can totally relate,,

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Sun 12/16/12 04:38 PM Edited by Dodo_David on Sun 12/16/12 04:39 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands? To the best of my knowledge, all bullets are made for the purpose of killing if that is what a shooter intends to do with the bullets.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sun 12/16/12 04:38 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands? If you knew anything about gun use and ownership you would understand. Since you don't, you keep parroting meaningless points that only make sense to you. Hollow point bullets are safer. They only harm what they hit THE FIRST TIME, which presumably, is what you are shooting at.

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Sun 12/16/12 04:43 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands? If you knew anything about gun use and ownership you would understand. Since you don't, you keep parroting meaningless points that only make sense to you. Hollow point bullets are safer. They only harm what they hit THE FIRST TIME, which presumably, is what you are shooting at. A scene in the movie Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade illustrates the point. In it, Indiana Jones kills more than one man with a single bullet. Jones shoots a man who is immediately in front of him. The bullet passes through the first man and then through another man who is immediately behind the first man.

Ras427 Joined Wed 08/08/12 Posts: 1516	Sun 12/16/12 04:47 PM
Not all these type of crimes are due to mental illness. Some are due to anti social behavior due to lack of early development. A recent case in the city I live in was the case that did not get much national attention, it pertains to a young man who killed his mother. When asked why he did it he replyed that his mother was his lover. His inability to cope with the fact that it was well known among his neighbors drove him to kill her and a sibling. It was even more humiliating to him when his family from Albania told him that he would go to hell. He was ostrasized and finally he reacted. This guy in Sandy Hook had obviouse issues, however notr the calculative planning he took, bullet proof vests, wore all black, variouse weapons, he planned this. He killed babies, defenceless babies. Sad.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 12/16/12 04:48 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands? If you knew anything about gun use and ownership you would understand. Since you don't, you keep parroting meaningless points that only make sense to you. Hollow point bullets are safer. They only harm what they hit THE FIRST TIME, which presumably, is what you are shooting at. yes, I dont know how many multiple homicides we have had because the bullets hit more than one target unintentionally and its not always a 'what', sometimes its a 'who' a what or a who that just might suffer terribly from having their insides ripped up but hey,, at least the shooter gets their 'target'

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 12/16/12 04:49 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands? To the best of my knowledge, all bullets are made for the purpose of killing if that is what a shooter intends to do with the bullets. certain gun proponents I have spoken of have pointed out to me that is not their only point, but to protect is also the point last I checked killing wasnt the only way of protection so Im figuring that such a point is meant to imply that bullets are also made to merely 'harm'

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sun 12/16/12 04:53 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands? To the best of my knowledge, all bullets are made for the purpose of killing if that is what a shooter intends to do with the bullets. certain gun proponents I have spoken of have pointed out to me that is not their only point, but to protect is also the point last I checked killing wasnt the only way of protection so Im figuring that such a point is meant to imply that bullets are also made to merely 'harm' You just don't understand.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 12/16/12 04:54 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands? To the best of my knowledge, all bullets are made for the purpose of killing if that is what a shooter intends to do with the bullets. certain gun proponents I have spoken of have pointed out to me that is not their only point, but to protect is also the point last I checked killing wasnt the only way of protection so Im figuring that such a point is meant to imply that bullets are also made to merely 'harm' You just don't understand. no, I dont understand the mindset so set upon being able to KILL people in their tracks I hope I never will

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sun 12/16/12 05:00 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands? To the best of my knowledge, all bullets are made for the purpose of killing if that is what a shooter intends to do with the bullets. certain gun proponents I have spoken of have pointed out to me that is not their only point, but to protect is also the point last I checked killing wasnt the only way of protection so Im figuring that such a point is meant to imply that bullets are also made to merely 'harm' You just don't understand. no, I dont understand the mindset so set upon being able to KILL people in their tracks I hope I never will You don't understand that the hollow point bullets are much safer than standard ammo for innocent bystanders.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sun 12/16/12 05:06 PM
By golly. They are all packing AK's. How many can you pick out who are ex-cons and packing illegally? WTF is Holder? Guess the libs only want to disarm certain folks.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 12/16/12 05:08 PM
What makes some people think that better gun control would have somehow prevented that tragedy in Connecticut? The shooter didn't use guns that belonged to him. He took guns that belonged to his mother. If you want the 2nd Amendment eliminated, then just come out and say so. probably couldnt have stopped it, but might have been able to avoid as much suffering 'The chief medical examiner said the ammunition was the type designed to break up inside a victim's body and inflict the maximum amount of damage, tearing apart bone and tissue.' WHY does a civilian need this kind of ammo? the mom was a gun 'enthusiast',,,,according to reports so far I think the notion that noone should have guns of any type, and the notion that everyone should be able to have guns of every type are equally ridiculous I want people to use some common sense to come to a middle ground,,, The purpose of hollow point rounds is to stop an attacker dead. More expensive than other types of ammo, but more stopping power too. They are considered far safer for the general public since they do not penetrate the target and kill innocent bystanders. so, the point is to kill? not merely 'protect' as I said, what is the point of it being in a civilians hands? To the best of my knowledge, all bullets are made for the purpose of killing if that is what a shooter intends to do with the bullets. certain gun proponents I have spoken of have pointed out to me that is not their only point, but to protect is also the point last I checked killing wasnt the only way of protection so Im figuring that such a point is meant to imply that bullets are also made to merely 'harm' You just don't understand. no, I dont understand the mindset so set upon being able to KILL people in their tracks I hope I never will You don't understand that the hollow point bullets are much safer than standard ammo for innocent bystanders. kind of a nice distraction the point is,, 'safer for innocent bystanders' translates into 'more likely to kill my target with less effort and more suffering to it'

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 12/16/12 05:09 PM
By golly. They are all packing AK's. How many can you pick out who are ex-cons and packing illegally? WTF is Holder? Guess the libs only want to disarm certain folks. I guess lib haters are only scared of 'certain' folks being armed,,,,,

Dodo_David Joined Fri 08/13/10 Posts: 48926	Sun 12/16/12 05:12 PM
By golly. They are all packing AK's. How many can you pick out who are ex-cons and packing illegally? WTF is Holder? Guess the libs only want to disarm certain folks. You still have not done what was asked of you. Give evidence that the NBP have committed an act of violence. Possessing the above-depicted weapons is not in itself an act of violence.

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sun 12/16/12 05:13 PM
Coming to light there was more than one shooter at the school. Possibly 3. Why didn't CNN report on one suspected shooter being caught in the woods near the incident?

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sun 12/16/12 05:15 PM
By golly. They are all packing AK's. How many can you pick out who are ex-cons and packing illegally? WTF is Holder? Guess the libs only want to disarm certain folks. You still have not done what was asked of you. Give evidence that the NBP have committed an act of violence. Possessing the above-depicted weapons is not in itself an act of violence. It's a crime if any or all of them are ex-cons. Those are the same types of weapons Libs want outlawed.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Sun 12/16/12 05:21 PM
By golly. They are all packing AK's. How many can you pick out who are ex-cons and packing illegally? WTF is Holder? Guess the libs only want to disarm certain folks. You still have not done what was asked of you. Give evidence that the NBP have committed an act of violence. Possessing the above-depicted weapons is not in itself an act of violence. It's a crime if any or all of them are ex-cons. Those are the same types of weapons Libs want outlawed. VIOLENT crimes,,,,

willing2 Joined Sun 06/08/08 Posts: 20221	Sun 12/16/12 05:26 PM
By golly. They are all packing AK's. How many can you pick out who are ex-cons and packing illegally? WTF is Holder? Guess the libs only want to disarm certain folks. You still have not done what was asked of you. Give evidence that the NBP have committed an act of violence. Possessing the above-depicted weapons is not in itself an act of violence. It's a crime if any or all of them are ex-cons. Those are the same types of weapons Libs want outlawed. VIOLENT crimes,,,, Jacksonville's Mikhail Muhammad and Tampa's Michelle Williams Claim A Race Riot is Coming to "Whitey with a river of blood. The New Black Panthers have no authority to call for riots, solicit murder, and promote the overthrow of the American government. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH it is time that we no longer stand idle in the face of domestic terrorism, ie the New Black Panthers. Call on U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, to file Federal Charges against the Leaders of the New Black Panthers for violation of the following federal law: 18 U.S.C. § 2101 : US Code – Section 2101: Riots; 18 USC § 1959 – Violent Crimes in Aid of Racketeering Activity; 18 USC § 249 – Hate Crimes Act; 18 U.S.C. 2385; and 18 U.S.C. 2389 Recruiting For Services Against The United States.