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Santorum: Obama Must Support Israel on Gaza
Thursday, 15 Nov 2012 09:21 PM By Todd Beamon and Paul Scicchitano The United States should support Israel in any assault against Hamas in the Gaza Strip, former Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum charged on Thursday in an exclusive interview with Newsmax TV. “We should support our ally in its ability to defend itself. Israel is defending itself against repeated attacks,” Santorum, the former Pennsylvania senator and chairman of Patriot Voices, told Newsmax at Restoration Weekend 2012 in Palm Beach, Fla. “There have over 850 rockets fired this year. “Imagine if Mexico was lobbing rockets into El Paso and Tucson. We would be outraged. We would immediately tell them to either stop or we are going to go into there and clear out those areas that are beyond government control – and do it for them. That is exactly what is going on in Israel.” Earlier on Thursday, Palestinians battered Israel with more than 200 rockets in the heaviest fighting in four years, killing three people as Israel pressed a punishing campaign of airstrikes on militant targets across the Gaza Strip. Three rockets targeted Tel Aviv, setting off air-raid sirens in bold attacks that led Israel to signal that a ground operation was imminent. At least 12 trucks were seen transporting tanks and armored personnel carriers, and a number of buses carrying soldiers arrived. Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said he had authorized the army to call up as many as 30,000 additional reservists for possible action. Fifteen Palestinians also have been killed in two days of shelling. Israel and Hamas have largely observed an informal truce for the past four years. But in recent weeks, the calm unraveled in a bout of rocket attacks on Israel from Gaza and retaliatory Israeli airstrikes. “The Palestinian Hamas, in Gaza, and in the West Bank, they are very, very clear that they do not believe in Israel’s right to exist,” Santorum told Newsmax on Thursday. “They have never recognized their right to exist. They are doing everything they can to create tensions, knowing that the vast majority of the world is going to support the Palestinian cause, as they do in the United Nations. “This is a test of whether this president, because America has been alone in the world in supporting Israel – post-election – is willing to stand up for Israel,” he added. “I am hopeful that the President will pass that test, but certainly if you look at his record over the past four years, he has been the weakest friend to Israel than Israel has ever had in the White House.” Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/newswidget/santorum-obama-support-israel/2012/11/15/id/464365?promo_code=F53B-1&utm_source=Debka&utm_medium=nmwidget&utm_campaign=widgetphase1 |
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Jeanniebean
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“Imagine if Mexico was lobbing rockets into El Paso and Tucson. We would be outraged. We would immediately tell them to either stop or we are going to go into there and clear out those areas that are beyond government control – and do it for them. That is exactly what is going on in Israel.”
Mexico does not have to send rockets. They simply get into their trucks and cross the boarder and assassinate Judges and people who are getting in their way when it comes to the drug trade. Plus, they are destroying America with drugs. And we are supplying them with assault weapons. ![]() |
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This guy says it like it is! It is great! ![]() |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Sun 11/18/12 02:25 AM
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This guy says it like it is! It is great! ![]() ![]() This is not reporting. This video is only a ridiculously undisguised attack on Israel. ![]() The Young Turkeys ignore the fact that Hamas started and perpetuate the current conflict and that it is totally up to Hamas to end it at any time. That Hamas chooses to cause Palestinian civilian deaths by purposefully launching attacks on Israel from civilian areas! ![]() Posting this video and touting it shows just how dumb and biased and insupportable the rhetoric has become on the anti-Israel side. ![]() When the US was attacked on 911, our government responded in the strongest possible terms to hold the radical Islamic terrorists responsible for the attacks accountable and to eliminate as much as possible their ability to continue the attacks against our innocent civilians. This was absolutely the right thing to do. Likewise the Israeli government is going to take whatever steps are necessary to stop rocket attacks on their civilians. This means that the Israelis, in light of the thousands of rockets launched into Israeli cities and towns from Gaza, are going to operate in Gaza and take out those who are attacking them and destroy any weapons depots or rocket launchers or weapons storage facilities or weapons manufacturing capabilities they can find in Gaza. It is not surprising and it is totally Hamas and their supporters in Iran's fault for continuing to attack Israel rather than trying to simply make peace coexisting side-by-side with Israel. The Palestinian deaths are horrible but the blame for the deaths of the Palestinians is purely the responsibility of Hamas and Iran who advocate and carry out attacks on their own citizens as well as the citizens of Israel. The outrage should be directed at those who are trying to kill civilians - Hamas - who are trying to kill civilians on both sides. If Hamas lays down their rockets and stops attacking Israel there will be peace of course. Just like there was at the end of the previous Hamas initiated conflict. When their weapons have been destroyed and their fighters have been eliminated then and only then can there be some semblance of peace and relief for the many Palestinian innocent civilians who are abused and killed by their own leaders - Hamas. |
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Arafat's death in November 2004 by no means changed Fatah's views on the extermination of the Jews. On August 4, 2009, after a lapse of twenty years, Fatah's Sixth General Assembly convened in Bethlehem where it reaffirmed the hatred of Jews that had fuelled its drive for the destruction of the Jewish state. The assembly called for a continued "armed struggle" against the Jews—as "a strategy, not tactic"—adding that the "struggle will not stop until the Zionist entity is eliminated and Palestine is liberated."[57] By this time, however, Fatah was in the midst of a power struggle with the Islamist group Hamas—not over the ultimate goal but over who would control its attainment. That power struggle continues to unfold.
Hamas's Jihadist Anti-Semitism It is in the words of Hamas activists and leaders, and especially the organization's 1988 charter, that the link between Nazi ideology and triumphalist jihadism in the Palestinian "resistance" movements can be seen most clearly. As indicated in article 2 of its charter, Hamas is an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood;[58] its chief founder, Ahmad Yassin, grew up in awe of Nazi ally Hajj Amin Husseini.[59] Yassin's views on eliminating the Jews can be seen clearly in a 2000 Palestinian television broadcast where he proclaimed that Jews "must be butchered and killed, as Allah the Almighty said: 'Fight them: Allah will torture them at your hands, and will humiliate them and will help you to overcome them.'"[60] Hamas makes "no distinctions between Jews, Zionists, and Israelis,"[61] which means their war is not about ending the Jewish "occupation" of Palestine but rather ridding the planet of Jews. As British academic Beverley Milton-Edwards noted, "The Hamas view of the Jewish people is not drawn solely from the pages of the Qur'an and Hadith [sayings and actions by Muhammad]. Its myopia is also the product of Western anti-Semitic [primarily Nazi] influences."[62] As a modern Islamist, jihadist movement, Hamas is defined by a distinctively modern mutation of Islamic hatred of Jews as exemplified in the writings of the Muslim Brotherhood's most influential jihadist ideologue, Sayyid Qutb. Qutb was known for quoting Islamic sources in his diatribes against the Jews to show that they are rejected by God and that on judgment day they shall "taste suffering through fire."[63] In his infamous essay "Our Struggle with the Jews," he quotes passages from the Qur'an, including, "You will surely find the worst enemies of the Muslim to be the Jews and the polytheists" (5:82), to show that "the Jews have confronted Islam with enmity from the moment that the Islamic state was established in Medina."[64] He continues with: "Everywhere the Jews have been they have committed unprecedented abominations."[65] Qutb's invocation of scripture and his use of a revisionist history are in keeping with a modern current in anti-Semitism, particularly when combined with his claim that the aim of world Jewry is to "penetrate into the body politic of the whole world and then … be free to perpetuate their evil designs."[66] This fear of a world Jewish conspiracy is distinctively modern, and the Muslim Brotherhood has bought into it. The preamble of Hamas's charter quotes Muslim Brotherhood founder Hassan al-Banna's statement that "Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it."[67] When Banna made his assertion, the Jewish state did not yet exist, so the reference to Israel is a reference to the Jewish people. Hamas understands itself to be functioning not merely as a political or religious movement but as the incarnation of God's governance of the universe. Article 1 in its charter states that Hamas is "based on the common coordinated and interdependent conceptions of the laws of the universe." Accordingly, Hamas's deeds and aspirations are a reflection of God's laws of the universe. The organization extends its reach into a realm beyond that of the Nazis: Whereas the Nazis insisted on the purity of blood, the jihadists insist on the purity of their very being since what is at stake is the ultimate annihilation of the Jewish presence in the world.[68] As Banna put it, in its pure form, Islam regulates all of being—"the affairs of men in this world and the next"[69]—so that "the mission of the Muslim Brotherhood is pure and unsullied, unblemished by any stain."[70] Relying upon a famous hadith, article 7 of the charter states, "The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: 'The Day of Judgment will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews [killing the Jews], when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say, 'O Muslims, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him.'" Nature itself rebels against the existence of the Jews: Natural law, therefore, requires the eradication of the Jews. Thus there can be no compromise, no peace with the Jewish state which, by definition, is an evil and unnatural entity. For Hamas then, the issue of Palestine is not about land or the "right of return" or what shall be the capital of the future state, it is about universal, revealed truth and is beyond negotiation. This explains why initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement. Abusing any part of Palestine is abuse directed against part of religion. Nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its religion…. There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through jihad.[71] Article 15 states that "it is necessary that scientists, educators and teachers, information and media people, as well as the educated masses, especially the youth and sheikhs of the Islamic movements, should take part in the operation of awakening [the masses]." Thus it ends with the refrain from the famous collection of hadith by the renowned, ninth-century Muslim scholar al-Bukhari: "I will assault and kill, assault and kill, assault and kill [the Jews]."[72] Hamas also echoes Hitler's assertion that "only the greatness of the sacrifices will win new fighters for the cause"[73] when it proclaims that a good Muslim mother must indoctrinate her children for "religious duties in preparation for the role of fighting awaiting them."[74] Such a call to arms has, in recent years, transformed murder into martyrdom: The jihadist's ticket to paradise must be purchased not with his own blood but with Jewish blood. Hamas's view of the Jew as a pervasive, all-powerful presence that threatens humanity echoes Hitler's insistence that the Jew is an "invisible wire puller" who by stealth conspires to rule the world.[75] It also underlies their view of the Jew as a threat not only to the Arabs of Palestine but to all of humanity, as stated in article 22: Jews "were behind the French Revolution, the communist revolution, and most of the revolutions … They formed secret societies … They were able to control imperialistic countries and instigate them to colonize many countries … There is no war going on anywhere without having their finger in it." The Jew is behind every war—a belief shared by Hamas and Hitler. Therefore, the Jews are the source of every evil, a point reiterated in article 28: "The Zionist invasion [of the world] is a vicious invasion. It does not refrain from resorting to all methods, using all evil… They aim at undermining societies, destroying values, corrupting consciences, deteriorating character, and annihilating Islam … Israel, Judaism, and Jews challenge Islam and the Muslim people." Article 32 takes the theme a step further: "When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion … Leaving the circle of struggle with Zionism is high treason, and cursed be he who does that." The invocation of the Protocols as a proof text is, of course, a method also employed by the Nazis bringing to mind Banna's assertion that he had learned much from the Nazis about the use of propaganda. In Hamas's worldview, evil is rooted not only in the Jews but in Judaism itself. Unlike the rest of humanity, the Jew can be neither redeemed nor rehabilitated, any more than one could make Satan into a saint. The only way to liberate humanity is to cast the satanic Jew into hell, and, as the embodiment of God on earth, Hamas takes the lead in that endeavor: Hamas is humanity's savior. To abandon its mission would be to renounce its followers' place in paradise. Conclusion Politicians who are entrusted with securing the peace in the Middle East fail to see reality. Inasmuch as negotiators will not name the evil they confront, they remain blind to it. Enjoying the complicity of the media, leaders in the Obama administration and elsewhere refuse to refer to Islamist fascists as either Islamists or as fascists. Such a position reflects an inexcusable, willful ignorance of the history, religion, culture, and languages that go into the making of modern jihadism. What must be understood above all is this: Hamas and Fatah have developed a theological and ideological justification that precludes any negotiations that would lead to a lasting peace with a Jewish state. At best, one can expect an application of the PLO's phased strategy, which gives the illusion of peace without renouncing its goal of Jewish extermination. Neither Hamas nor Fatah can agree in good faith to any peace with the Jews since in their eyes to do so would amount to treason or apostasy or both. What then is to be done beyond naming the evil? Simply stated, Islamist jihadism must be eliminated, and given their ideological stances, neither Hamas nor Fatah can be a viable partner in peace; therefore, their removal from power is a prerequisite to any future for Israelis and Palestinians alike. Whether the present revolutionary turmoil sweeping the Arab world will produce such a result remains to be seen. David Patterson is Hillel Feinberg Chair in Holocaust studies at the University of Texas at Dallas. This article is based on research done for his book A Genealogy of Evil: Anti-Semitism from Nazism to Islamic Jihad (Cambridge University Press, 2011). |
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This guy says it like it is! It is great! ![]() ![]() This is not reporting. This video is only a ridiculously undisguised attack on Israel. ![]() The Young Turkeys ignore the fact that Hamas started and perpetuate the current conflict and that it is totally up to Hamas to end it at any time. That Hamas chooses to cause Palestinian civilian deaths by purposefully launching attacks on Israel from civilian areas! : When the US was attacked on 911, our government responded in the strongest possible terms to hold the radical Islamic terrorists responsible for the attacks accountable and to eliminate as much as possible their ability to continue the attacks against our innocent civilians. This was absolutely the right thing to do. Likewise the Israeli government is going to take whatever steps are necessary to stop rocket attacks on their civilians. |
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Edited by
HotRodDeluxe
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Sun 11/18/12 03:01 AM
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This guy says it like it is! It is great! ![]() ![]() This is not reporting. This video is only a ridiculously undisguised attack on Israel. ![]() The Young Turkeys ignore the fact that Hamas started and perpetuate the current conflict and that it is totally up to Hamas to end it at any time. That Hamas chooses to cause Palestinian civilian deaths by purposefully launching attacks on Israel from civilian areas! : When the US was attacked on 911, our government responded in the strongest possible terms to hold the radical Islamic terrorists responsible for the attacks accountable and to eliminate as much as possible their ability to continue the attacks against our innocent civilians. This was absolutely the right thing to do. Likewise the Israeli government is going to take whatever steps are necessary to stop rocket attacks on their civilians. Excuse me, but do you still believe that story? At the risk of being off topic, I present this: The "5 Dancing Jooos" myth is just another example of the common CT trick of Guilt By Suspicion. This trick states that because one person's words or conduct appears not to be the way a "normal person" would have acted, everything about the person must be a lie and the truth must be the conspiracy theory. The real fact is that millions and millions of people were involved one way or another with the events of 9/11 or the later investigation. Everybody perceives things differently and everybody acts differently. Some people are going to behave strangely. All it means is that some people behaved strangely. So, assume for the purposes of argument that there were 5 dancing Jooos. Does that mean that they had foreknowledge of the events of that day? Does it mean that Israel planned and executed 9/11? Of course not. All it means is that five Jooos were dancing on 9/11 (although, in fact, the entire story is a myth). Now, here are our two alternatives: 1) the official theory with millions of witnesses including passengers, air traffic controlers, the actual bad guys themselves (by video tape), engineers, firefighters, etc. and with massive amounts of physical evidence; or 2) the various conspiracy theories supported, if at all, by some suspicious behavior by a few people. Which is more likely? |
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This guy says it like it is! It is great! ![]() ![]() This is not reporting. This video is only a ridiculously undisguised attack on Israel. ![]() The Young Turkeys ignore the fact that Hamas started and perpetuate the current conflict and that it is totally up to Hamas to end it at any time. That Hamas chooses to cause Palestinian civilian deaths by purposefully launching attacks on Israel from civilian areas! : When the US was attacked on 911, our government responded in the strongest possible terms to hold the radical Islamic terrorists responsible for the attacks accountable and to eliminate as much as possible their ability to continue the attacks against our innocent civilians. This was absolutely the right thing to do. Likewise the Israeli government is going to take whatever steps are necessary to stop rocket attacks on their civilians. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLC1b8nUF74&feature=related |
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This is one example of a coverup.
Urban moving was a Mossad front business. They all fled back to Israel after 911 leaving customers goods in mid transport. You can read all about it here and even see the FBI files confirming that on the tape the men were smiling about the event on 911. http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2011/08/official-2001-fbi-docs-on-urban-moving.html |
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This is one example of a coverup. Urban moving was a Mossad front business. They all fled back to Israel after 911 leaving customers goods in mid transport. You can read all about it here and even see the FBI files confirming that on the tape the men were smiling about the event on 911. http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2011/08/official-2001-fbi-docs-on-urban-moving.html ![]() And Debunked! Only used by the Truthers now as a last resort! ![]() |
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This is one example of a coverup. Urban moving was a Mossad front business. They all fled back to Israel after 911 leaving customers goods in mid transport. You can read all about it here and even see the FBI files confirming that on the tape the men were smiling about the event on 911. http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2011/08/official-2001-fbi-docs-on-urban-moving.html ![]() And Debunked! Only used by the Truthers now as a last resort! ![]() Did they abandon the business after the event yes they did. Go browse the FBI files at the link above and make your own conclusions its all very very weird. |
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This is one example of a coverup. Urban moving was a Mossad front business. They all fled back to Israel after 911 leaving customers goods in mid transport. You can read all about it here and even see the FBI files confirming that on the tape the men were smiling about the event on 911. http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2011/08/official-2001-fbi-docs-on-urban-moving.html ![]() And Debunked! Only used by the Truthers now as a last resort! ![]() Did they abandon the business after the event yes they did. Go browse the FBI files at the link above and make your own conclusions its all very very weird. ![]() |
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HotRodDeluxe
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Sun 11/18/12 03:34 AM
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This is one example of a coverup. Urban moving was a Mossad front business. They all fled back to Israel after 911 leaving customers goods in mid transport. You can read all about it here and even see the FBI files confirming that on the tape the men were smiling about the event on 911. http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2011/08/official-2001-fbi-docs-on-urban-moving.html Smiling is dancing is it? I read the documents and there is no evidence to support the story of these men being Mossad operatives responsible for the attacks. That is just ludicrous. Moreover, if there was a cover up, how did this blogger obtain the documents through the FOI act? Not much of an attempt at a cover-up. The whole myth is based on what a lady alleged, and people have extrapolated far beyond the evidence. The opinion of some anti-semitic blogger is hardly credible. You do realise that this subject is hijacking the thread btw? |
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Edited by
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Sun 11/18/12 04:06 AM
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This is one example of a coverup. Urban moving was a Mossad front business. They all fled back to Israel after 911 leaving customers goods in mid transport. You can read all about it here and even see the FBI files confirming that on the tape the men were smiling about the event on 911. http://mybigfatanti-zionistlife.blogspot.com/2011/08/official-2001-fbi-docs-on-urban-moving.html ![]() And Debunked! Only used by the Truthers now as a last resort! ![]() Did they abandon the business after the event yes they did. Go browse the FBI files at the link above and make your own conclusions its all very very weird. ![]() |
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depends how you define "debunked" did they deny the charge of course they did.
Well, the charge wasn't substantiated. You do understand that no crime was committed? Did they abandon the business after the event yes they did.
I would too after such treatment. I take it you see this as an admission of some form of guilt? Go browse the FBI files at the link above and make your own conclusions its all very very weird.
Actually, they're rather pedestrian and boring. |
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This guy says it like it is! It is great! ![]() ![]() This is not reporting. This video is only a ridiculously undisguised attack on Israel. ![]() The Young Turkeys ignore the fact that Hamas started and perpetuate the current conflict and that it is totally up to Hamas to end it at any time. That Hamas chooses to cause Palestinian civilian deaths by purposefully launching attacks on Israel from civilian areas! : When the US was attacked on 911, our government responded in the strongest possible terms to hold the radical Islamic terrorists responsible for the attacks accountable and to eliminate as much as possible their ability to continue the attacks against our innocent civilians. This was absolutely the right thing to do. Likewise the Israeli government is going to take whatever steps are necessary to stop rocket attacks on their civilians. ![]() No ![]() http://video.msnbc.msn.com/msnbc/49868978/#49868978 |
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Haters calling other haters, haters...... and liars A perfect controlled media, profiting by feeding lies to both sides, A perfect world! What a breeding ground we have become! |
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s1owhand
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Haters calling other haters, haters...... and liars A perfect controlled media, profiting by feeding lies to both sides, A perfect world! What a breeding ground we have become! The only "controlled" media is in the Palestinian territories and Arab states where there is no freedom of speech, freedom of religion or freedom of the press. There is a distinction you know.... ![]() In the US, EU, Israel, Australia etc. there really is a free press and there really are all viewpoints discussed. ![]() You can only truly perpetuate a lie when the media is state controlled as it is in the Islamic countries. Lies get revealed in open press countries like Israel and the US. That is the value of freedom and one of the reasons we respect it so highly and fight to keep such freedoms. ![]() |
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Haters calling other haters, haters...... and liars A perfect controlled media, profiting by feeding lies to both sides, A perfect world! What a breeding ground we have become! The same old whining with the same old rhetoric. |
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