Please tone down the aggressiveness a bit. Many women are so spooked they are afraid to give their e-mail address or phone number to a man seeking a legitimate relationship and it is making it almost impossible to communicate. It is a sad state of affairs when a woman is scared to death to communicate effectively with someone she is truly interested in because of all the jerks who are just looking to bed her down or worse. So how about being a real man and respect the ladies' wishes meaning if she says no; It's NO!!! Don't keep bothering her.

yeaaaaaaa!!! "Well said heatnsoul54;"i agree with you 100 % :)

It's ok,I'm sure if you say no really loud, the men won't bother you anymore

What he says: "Please tone down the aggressiveness a bit. Many women are so spooked they are afraid to give their e-mail address or phone number to a man seeking a legitimate relationship and it is making it almost impossible to communicate."

What he means: "I can't persuade any woman here to give me her e-mail address or telephone number. It must be someone else's fault."

When a woman feels ready to give out her personal contact information, she will do it. Until then, there is nothing wrong with using this site's private messaging system. It adds a level of security. It is your job to convince a woman that such a level of security is not needed.

Hallelujah.

That kind of 'persistence' is just fkn annoying.

That is why you are allowed to block individuals from contacting you.

goes both ways... I would never give my phone number to a woman on this site after what I had gone through with a few very stalkative women.

And to tell them where I lived would be totally nutty to do, nearest damn thing next to suicide. Once, for instance, when a woman could not gain access to my humble abode after i asked her not to call or bother me any more, she had called the cops and the sherriff on me.

She was the building manager and I owed a lot of back rent. But still.

It takes a long long time for me to give out my personal info- im quite happy chatting on here and i tend to block anyone who tries to pull me off onto yahoo or any such other nonsense. When I am ready and you have proven yourself to me or at least I dont think you are an axe murderer then i MIGHT give out my number for texting purposes only. but dont abuse that priviledge- Im good at blocking cell numbers too lol

Perhaps the men DO need to tone it down a bit but it seems like the OP needs to have a little patience also-- JMO

heart and soul, I am your exact replica in looks. I was born also in 1954. What a bizarre set of commonalities.

I used to explain my lack of success with trying to arrange for meetings with good looking women on these sites with my not-so-becoming looks. But you are right, maybe it's not that I am ugly at all, but that some guys have harrassed the women they dated and whom I want to date, too much in the past.

yeah, that is much more believeable than that I am ugly and putrid.

Hm. Makes one think.

I completely agree with that. I would never tell anyone where I lived nor would I ask a woman to tell me where she lived unless we had gone on several dates and she felt comfortable doing so. But to be scared to give out your email or phone # for fear some nut will track you down and do Lord knows what to you, that is just insane in today's world of technology you would think it would be much safer than in the old days but apparently, it is not.

I like to think that going slowly in a relationship, at the same speed as trust is gained and granted, is a good idea.

For instance, it takes five years of forum membership for a guy to convince some woman that he is not an axe murderer.

Another ten years of texting will somehow make her think he hasn't got AIDS. "He would have died by now," figures the woman.

Give it another thirty yearts, and she will be sure he is not after her money.

Forty years after that, they go on their first coffee date, she makes love to him, he gives her Hepatitis B in exchange for all her jewellery and bank accounts, she signs her house deed over to him, which he gets out of her by saying that if she wants him to go at the love again, he needs some "perks", and the last thing that goes through her mind is the blade of the axe she keeps in her bedroom just in case a date gets "fresh" with her.

Instead of insisting that it's those pesky guys who make the woman's experience convince her not to give out her number or email, I would think it's the media's fault. I mean, there are enough laws and common human decency to make the pesky guys not do horrible things to women. If a woman does not give out her number or email, she is doing so because a small number of women (which is too large a number, but still, it's a small percentage) get a bad experience.

Not only that, but the bad experiences get done in domestic situations, at home, between people who have known each other for long.

And the women, god may help them, and I feel for them, who have a "bad" experience with a man whom they see for the first time, a man who will do Lord knows what to her, is maybe one in fifty million each year.

So I don't condone that behaviour, but if a woman stops herself from meeting men on the concern of danger, needs to get her head examined for paranoia.

In other words, Heart and Soul, I agree with you, but I don't.

Heart and Soul: Noticed you took off your picture. You oughtn't to have.

You are beautiful. I was just kidding. Nothing wrong with your looks.

Put your picture back again, with confidence. You are handsome and good looking.

i might think that you could possibly be making fun of me but since im not that sensitive and other peoples opinions dont matter to me - Im just going to go with the idea that you loved what i had to say. right?? LOL - I dont mind going slow but quite honestly all I meet are scammers so reverse is really the speed i believe in on this site~!!!

I, on the other hand, base my entire worth as a human being on what opinion others hold of me.

I never met any scammers yet, or anyone else, at all, on this site or on any other. It is a miracle. I am beginning to think that there is a little piece of Lourdes in me.

What gets me is not the scammers, but that nobody ever tries to scam me. And what's more irksome, is that the ones I want to scam, don't fall for it.

Don't knock scamming, unless you've tried it yourself. It is not as easy as it looks, and most scammers try to make some money not for crack or heroine, but for the seven starving chilren they have in some godforsaken backwoods African village where every second person dies of starvation or from drinking bad water every year.

Some will some won't
Some do some don't................give out their phone # before they even know much about you. OP this is the internet, who really knows if you are a weirdo or not. Have a little patience, don't be in such a hurry.

'Bout time you worked that out :-)

You know how much I hate working. But people like I must pay the price for a lazy lifestle sooner or later.

I have been paying into it on a layaway plan. A little bit every payday. And layaway plan or not, I STILL didn't get laid enough.