Topic: Marriage Helps keeps Children from Growing up Poor
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Tue 10/23/12 08:00 AM
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msharmony's photo
Tue 10/23/12 08:01 AM
strange, I see posts while I add them but I dont see them once I post them,,,,

msharmony's photo
Tue 10/23/12 08:10 AM
what is going on,,,,

TBRich's photo
Tue 10/23/12 03:35 PM

strange, I see posts while I add them but I dont see them once I post them,,,,



Put down the pipe and walk away slowly

msharmony's photo
Wed 10/24/12 04:54 PM


strange, I see posts while I add them but I dont see them once I post them,,,,



Put down the pipe and walk away slowly



smh


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Wed 10/24/12 07:43 PM
The posts work now (I think).

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Wed 10/24/12 10:50 PM
i was raised for part of my childhood in a 2 parent home, the home of my grandparents. it was a single income house and during my time there i was steady stable ad cared for. the other part of my childhood i spent in a single parent home, my mothers. she had 2 incomes from 2 fulltime jobs during my time with her i became unstable but still loved and cared for, diagnosed with multiple mental disorders so she could get me on ssi. i am now 27 yrs old married and a working mother of 3 ( havent been working very long waited for my youngest to start preschool so ive been a stay at home mom the previous 9 yrs). my husband is a hs graduate with 2 yrs of college and im a hs dropout. during the time my husbands pay was our only income we did just fine, and no we did not have any type of government assistance neither of us will accept handouts. my children were happy, healthy, very well behaved and well adjusted. i was happy, and stable. now im working as well and we are barely stretching from paycheck 2 paycheck 2 cover bills gas and groceries, my children are less happy without me, and do not behave as well for their father in the evenings as they did for me. i am constantly stressed out or depressed from not having much time with my kids (only a few minutes every morning thru the wk, and a few hrs on sat and sun). so judging the article from where i sit its very biased bs, ive been in multiple situations faced many hard facts growing up and continue 2 now. i stand at a point where i think its has nothing 2 do with income head of house or the sex of your parents, it is knowing what you want out of life and working hard enough to have that. i wanted a better life for my children than the life i had as a child i have pushed hard, worked hard, and broken down many times to make sure they have all they need and some of what they want. so no it doesnt matter what kind of home your raised in or the type of situation good or bad your raised with, its all on you as an adult to decide if your going to do something with yourself. i havnt done much with my life but i am proud of myself for the few things that i have accomplished and will continue to work hard to accomplish more. i got my GED last spring, and i am hoping to enroll in college this fall.

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Wed 02/27/13 10:50 PM
if marraige is so good for the econemy then why is everybody so against gay marraige? haha...listen 50 years ago my grandparents raised 8 kids...8 with my grandfather working for the water company and my grandmother staying home with the kids...here we are 50 years later and it takes 2 people working full time to be able to afford half of what my grandparents were able to provide with only one of them working...something isnt right and its got less to do with marraige and more to do with the corprate strangle hold on our government...and i dont agree with the definition poor the way the article or whoever uses it...money isnt everything...its actually only green paper...it was the chinese, i believe, that used seashells for currency until they realized anybody could just go to the beach

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Sat 03/09/13 07:47 AM

if marraige is so good for the econemy then why is everybody so against gay marraige? haha...listen 50 years ago my grandparents raised 8 kids...8 with my grandfather working for the water company and my grandmother staying home with the kids...here we are 50 years later and it takes 2 people working full time to be able to afford half of what my grandparents were able to provide with only one of them working...something isnt right and its got less to do with marraige and more to do with the corprate strangle hold on our government...and i dont agree with the definition poor the way the article or whoever uses it...money isnt everything...its actually only green paper...it was the chinese, i believe, that used seashells for currency until they realized anybody could just go to the beach


there is a different topic regarding 'the economy',, but regarding how children grow up,, marriage decreases the odds of poverty

gay marriage is irrelevant to that issue since homosexuals dont produce children together,,,,

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Sun 03/10/13 02:40 PM
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Mon 03/11/13 07:17 AM
gay marriage is irrelevant to that issue since homosexuals dont produce children together,,,,

Funny; I know plenty of gay and lesbian couples with children. Either they are the biological children of one partner, or they've been adopted. These kids exist.

But then again, I also know plenty of heterosexual married couples who are poor, and some wealthy single parents... so I think the whole discussion is a crock of you-know-what. The fact that it started out with a quote from the Heritage Foundation (a group with a nefarious and societally-backward agenda if there ever was one) should be a clue.

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Mon 03/11/13 07:54 AM

gay marriage is irrelevant to that issue since homosexuals dont produce children together,,,,

Funny; I know plenty of gay and lesbian couples with children. Either they are the biological children of one partner, or they've been adopted. These kids exist.

But then again, I also know plenty of heterosexual married couples who are poor, and some wealthy single parents... so I think the whole discussion is a crock of you-know-what. The fact that it started out with a quote from the Heritage Foundation (a group with a nefarious and societally-backward agenda if there ever was one) should be a clue.


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Mon 03/11/13 07:36 PM

gay marriage is irrelevant to that issue since homosexuals dont produce children together,,,,

Funny; I know plenty of gay and lesbian couples with children. Either they are the biological children of one partner, or they've been adopted. These kids exist.

But then again, I also know plenty of heterosexual married couples who are poor, and some wealthy single parents... so I think the whole discussion is a crock of you-know-what. The fact that it started out with a quote from the Heritage Foundation (a group with a nefarious and societally-backward agenda if there ever was one) should be a clue.


let me repost for clarity

homosexuals dont produce children 'together'

there is not much published research about gay marriage and children so marriage and children is generally a topic thats researched in the context of HETEROSEXUAL Relations which are likely to CREATE those children,,,,

what children need is both financial and emotional,,what they lack in a single parent home is the ability to truly have a balance of both,, its hard to be one person and give them the right balance of financial and emotional support, like you can when two people share those roles and compliment each other

not to mention child care expenses that cut into income when someone has to be the financial and emotional support by themself

its logical, that when a man and woman create a life, and commit to caring for the life together with a PUBLIC and LEGAL Aknowledgementof and obligation to that commitment,, those kids will be better off ( all things being equal, not comparing a loving home with an abusive one and so on and so forth,, the most loving single parent family cant provide the benefits of the most loving two parent home)

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Mon 03/18/13 05:33 PM


gay marriage is irrelevant to that issue since homosexuals dont produce children together,,,,

Funny; I know plenty of gay and lesbian couples with children. Either they are the biological children of one partner, or they've been adopted. These kids exist.

But then again, I also know plenty of heterosexual married couples who are poor, and some wealthy single parents... so I think the whole discussion is a crock of you-know-what. The fact that it started out with a quote from the Heritage Foundation (a group with a nefarious and societally-backward agenda if there ever was one) should be a clue.


let me repost for clarity

homosexuals dont produce children 'together'

there is not much published research about gay marriage and children so marriage and children is generally a topic thats researched in the context of HETEROSEXUAL Relations which are likely to CREATE those children,,,,

what children need is both financial and emotional,,what they lack in a single parent home is the ability to truly have a balance of both,, its hard to be one person and give them the right balance of financial and emotional support, like you can when two people share those roles and compliment each other

not to mention child care expenses that cut into income when someone has to be the financial and emotional support by themself

its logical, that when a man and woman create a life, and commit to caring for the life together with a PUBLIC and LEGAL Aknowledgementof and obligation to that commitment,, those kids will be better off ( all things being equal, not comparing a loving home with an abusive one and so on and so forth,, the most loving single parent family cant provide the benefits of the most loving two parent home)



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Thu 03/28/13 03:53 PM




Culture

Marriage reduces poverty

Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com)
Tuesday, September 25, 2012


Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty.

That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married.

Rector

"If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level."

Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty.

"It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret."

Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades."

http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty



it has always just made sense to me

the foundation of life is the male and female together, and the best potential for a life once born is with that foundation in tact,,,


my biggest regrets are bringing my children up in split families,,,,


I would advise anyone against purposefully creating a life with someone they werent committed to raising that life with,,,



but would that need a Church-and-State sanctioned Institution?



I think the odds of commitment increase when people have the commitment witnessed by family and community,,,,and mandated by the law


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

I think the divorce rate disagrees with you........

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Thu 03/28/13 06:07 PM





Culture

Marriage reduces poverty

Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com)
Tuesday, September 25, 2012


Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty.

That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married.

Rector

"If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level."

Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty.

"It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret."

Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades."

http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty



it has always just made sense to me

the foundation of life is the male and female together, and the best potential for a life once born is with that foundation in tact,,,


my biggest regrets are bringing my children up in split families,,,,


I would advise anyone against purposefully creating a life with someone they werent committed to raising that life with,,,



but would that need a Church-and-State sanctioned Institution?



I think the odds of commitment increase when people have the commitment witnessed by family and community,,,,and mandated by the law


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

I think the divorce rate disagrees with you........



I think the divorce rate proves marriage can break up just like casual relationships

but what I stated was I dont think it happens AS OFTEN When people have had their commitment recognized by family and community as when they are just hooking up


Kleisto's photo
Thu 03/28/13 07:35 PM






Culture

Marriage reduces poverty

Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com)
Tuesday, September 25, 2012


Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty.

That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married.

Rector

"If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level."

Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty.

"It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret."

Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades."

http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty



it has always just made sense to me

the foundation of life is the male and female together, and the best potential for a life once born is with that foundation in tact,,,


my biggest regrets are bringing my children up in split families,,,,


I would advise anyone against purposefully creating a life with someone they werent committed to raising that life with,,,



but would that need a Church-and-State sanctioned Institution?



I think the odds of commitment increase when people have the commitment witnessed by family and community,,,,and mandated by the law


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

I think the divorce rate disagrees with you........



I think the divorce rate proves marriage can break up just like casual relationships

but what I stated was I dont think it happens AS OFTEN When people have had their commitment recognized by family and community as when they are just hooking up




again........the divorce rate disagrees.....they are generally recognized......and they still break apart.

msharmony's photo
Thu 03/28/13 10:34 PM







Culture

Marriage reduces poverty

Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com)
Tuesday, September 25, 2012


Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty.

That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married.

Rector

"If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level."

Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty.

"It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret."

Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades."

http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty



it has always just made sense to me

the foundation of life is the male and female together, and the best potential for a life once born is with that foundation in tact,,,


my biggest regrets are bringing my children up in split families,,,,


I would advise anyone against purposefully creating a life with someone they werent committed to raising that life with,,,



but would that need a Church-and-State sanctioned Institution?



I think the odds of commitment increase when people have the commitment witnessed by family and community,,,,and mandated by the law


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

I think the divorce rate disagrees with you........



I think the divorce rate proves marriage can break up just like casual relationships

but what I stated was I dont think it happens AS OFTEN When people have had their commitment recognized by family and community as when they are just hooking up




again........the divorce rate disagrees.....they are generally recognized......and they still break apart.



the divorce rate does nothing to address the rate of non married couples

so ., no,, the divorce rate does not disagree in terms of which relationships are MORE LIKELY To stay together,,,

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Thu 03/28/13 11:15 PM
Edited by CeriseRose on Thu 03/28/13 11:35 PM






Culture

Marriage reduces poverty

Charlie Butts (OneNewsNow.com)
Tuesday, September 25, 2012


Marriage proves to be an excellent way to keep children from growing up in poverty.

That conclusion was reached through a study done by The Heritage Foundation. Spokesman Robert Rector tells OneNewsNow a child's probability of growing up in poverty is reduced by 82 percent when the parents are married.

Rector

"If you look nationwide, in a given year about 37 percent of the single-parent families with children are poor," he says. "By contrast, of the married two-parent families, only 7 percent of them are poor. And you know what? That reduction occurs even if you make a comparison between parents at the same education level."

Rector points out that what the mainstream press in America never acknowledges is that with 70 percent of the poverty in America occurring in single-parent families, marriage is a key solution to poverty.

"It's actually a stronger factor than graduating from high school," he adds. "Now, I'm not suggesting that people should drop out of high school -- [finishing high school is] clearly a very positive thing. But the fact of the matter is that marriage is actually more powerful in terms of its social and economic outcomes, and no one talks about it. It's a big secret."

Rector says the experts on the subject know it, but there "really has been a gag rule on talking about the benign effects of marriage in the United States for decades."

http://www.onenewsnow.com/culture/2012/09/25/marriage-reduces-poverty



it has always just made sense to me

the foundation of life is the male and female together, and the best potential for a life once born is with that foundation in tact,,,


my biggest regrets are bringing my children up in split families,,,,


I would advise anyone against purposefully creating a life with someone they werent committed to raising that life with,,,



but would that need a Church-and-State sanctioned Institution?



I think the odds of commitment increase when people have the commitment witnessed by family and community,,,,and mandated by the law


rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl rofl

I think the divorce rate disagrees with you........



I think the divorce rate proves marriage can break up just like casual relationships

but what I stated was I dont think it happens AS OFTEN When people have had their commitment recognized by family and community as when they are just hooking up




Yes, marriages fail.

The wedding chappel is similar to a courtroom with witnesses.

Strange as it may sound in these days,
it used be truly looked upon as a devastating failure when married couples would breakup.
And divorce was not so easy.

It was a bit more shameful than today. And couples worked harder to maintain unity in the family relationship.

I believe, just as the public education system was beneficial for the nurturing
and teaching of ethics and the like, even moreso was the instituion of marriage designed. .

Back in the day obligation to commitment, love, respect were valuable to family structure.
And every effort was made to hold to those virtues.
Families had unity of spirit.

Nowadays, vain things have weakened the minds of men and women. Material things and extramarital affairs, and even substance abuse seem more important than family bond.


Children are happier and are more likely to follow the beaten path of commitment
and productivity where there is a proper foundation laid.
and where shame is not a a part of the equasion.
That is.. where parents try to keep their environment unquestionably sound.


flowerforyou



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Sat 03/30/13 01:24 AM
I might be the only one who thinks this but what does it really matter? Who are we to say what is acceptable or not? I think that as long as your happy with the choices you make, and you can handle the effect that it will have on the children, then be open with those kids. Marriages between men and women do not always workout, t hey are not perfect, and they end up getting divorced. But yet that is acceptable? He cheated? She cheated? That is ok, but not falling in love with another guy/girl? Grow up. I have friends that are lesbians, and they both work their butts off and raise amazingly strong children. In the end, it's not who teaches them, it's how it's taught, explained and patiently accepted.