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Anywhere in the world where muslims have gained power, they pull their perverted crap. What say the pro-extremixtsts to the law that allows muslims screwing their dead wives and animals? Just here in the United States? it is world wide my friend! ZooBrazil.com IS from Brazil! many bestiality sites are Danish! I had done a paper in College on the effects of the Internet on the Porn industry and even India has a thriving bestiality market. Hell, you want to talk about sick fetish here? I could get into details of some of the sickness I have come across that would revolt you to NO end and it would make bestiality seem tame. Ever hear of a site called RottenTomatoes.com?? There you can find an infra red video of special forces watching a suspected terrorist camp and one of the men there showing a donkey a little affection in the dark! I am trying to find a reference to the Islamic parable that a Woman is for breeding, children are for pleasure, but goats are pure ecstasy! Now in no way I am condoning the act. But as far as the consent issue goes, If a horse does not want to get screwed they can and will bite kick and run away. I have been around horses and sen a mare with a hungry *** end! They have their ways of making it clear SHE wants to be serviced. The same goes for dogs. A female dog is not humping your leg because she thinks that is the way to say hello! She is complaining in the dog way she has an itch that she wants scratched! And where you have horney animals you will have sex. You think Humans are the only ones who intentionally cross species lines??? the reproductive urge is so powerful in Mammals that it can override instinct to some degree and overwhelm common sense completely! But when it comes to sex humans in general are pretty screwed up about the WHOLE topic! So about how messed up we are here in America AGAIN? Hijacking a thread to bash America over loop and invertible hypocrisy? I think on a side tangent here that is also off topic is that humans think we are the only intelligence on this planet let alone the only one capable of making a choice... But back on track, Why is it Islam demands women cover their bodies? RESPECT FOR ISLAM? HELL NO! It is because men are not capable of controlling their feral urges in Islam so hide the women and the problem supposedly goes away! Women are the temptation. Women are the sinners. Why is it a woman cannot show her self in public without covering every inch of their person? At least here in America women are supposed to be equal citizens! So there we are one big leg up on Islam morally! There is a lot about Islamic morals that leave a lot to be desired! |
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Here in America is my home, what goes on in other countries has nothing to do with me. As if their behavior justifys our own, that is backward thinking. As for woman "supposabily" haveing equal rights is not only misleading but outright wrong. Woman are still struggling for equal rights. Supposibly is the right word. As for Muslim men not able to control their urges, rape in America is ranked number two in the worlds list of violent crimes. Murder by gun violence being number one in the world. Robberys and property ranking also on top of the worlds ranking. If a man cant control his carnal desires or regulate those desires to a woman, then man is indeed a sophisticated beast. There is no rational, logical, theorhetical, philisophical nor a moral justification for such behavior. Again, many a chicken and sheep have met the man beast in the cover of night. I need not go outside of the country to see bestiality, we have enough right here. Finally, moral conduct has nothing to do with religion, its defined by your state of mind. As for the parabell you were refering to, its not Islamic, its actually American, a whench is for breeding, a child is for laughter, but a fine hen is better then moonshine." Stories of Appalachia, by Arthur P. Goines, 1928.
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what verse of the Quran states Aishas age,,,,, can anyone point me to it...? according to the following WikiIslam article: "Aisha was Muhammad's child bride. Muhammad married her when she was six or seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine lunar years old. The section "Aisha's Age at Consummation and Marriage" lists the evidence for Aisha's young age. " http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Aisha There are numerous references and some variations in how the age is calculated are possible but here are some of the most frequently cited references. Personally I don't take it too literally but more as allegorical. Nevertheless here they are... Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236 Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64 Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Sahih Bukhari 7:62:65 Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Sahih Bukhari 7:62:88 Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet was screening me with his Rida' (garment covering the upper part of the body) while I was looking at the Ethiopians who were playing in the courtyard of the mosque. (I continued watching) till I was satisfied. So you may deduce from this event how a little girl (who has not reached the age of puberty) who is eager to enjoy amusement should be treated in this respect. Sahih Bukhari 7:62:163 Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Sahih Bukhari 8:73:151 http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Aisha#Aisha.27s_Age_at_Consummation_and_Marriage this still doesnt clarify anything for me, but thanx for trying I already understood she was young and virginal upon MARRIAGE, but I was questioning whether the QURAN itself gave her age to be nine when she was joined with her husband physically, or if that is just an assumption repeated as fact,,,, |
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Here is an excerpt from the Wikipedia entry "Aisha":
Aisha stayed in her parents' home for several years until she joined Muhammad and the marriage was consummated when she was nine. However, al-Tabari records that she was ten. The sources do not offer much more information about Aisha's childhood years, but mention that after the wedding, she continued to play with her toys, and that Muhammad entered into the spirit of these games.
The issue of Aisha's age at the time she was married to Muhammad has been of interest since the earliest days of Islam, and references to her age by early historians are frequent. Early Muslims regarded Aisha's youth as demonstrating her virginity and therefore her suitability as a bride of Muhammad. According to Spellberg, historians who supported Aisha's position in the debate of the succession to Muhammad against Shi'a claims considered her youth, and therefore her purity, to be of paramount importance. They thus specifically emphasized it, implying that as Muhammad's only virgin wife, Aisha was divinely intended for him, and therefore the most credible in the debate. Child marriages such as this were relatively common in Bedouin societies at the time, and remain common in some societies even today. British scholar Colin Turner suggests that such marriages were not seen as improper in historical context, and that individuals in such societies matured at an earlier age than in the modern West. |
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For what it is worth, apparently, back in the year 1880 CE, age 10 was the age of sexual consent in some parts of the USA.
(Information Source) |
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So far, the Catholics haven't made it legal to fck fresh dead wives. Those muslim ba$terds are some sick mofos. They even have rules on how to screw animals. The rules about sex with animals apply to males only. In most Muslim countries, a woman must be executed for fornicating with any animal, even if it’s a pet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FS5Xpdu4ELE#!  The Catholics wont have a problem with women and children getting an education, dont have a problem if women have jobs, dont have a problem with women playing sports, dont have a problem with women driving. The Catholics dont worship someone who is a peodophile who married a 7 year old and who conumated the wedding after he played with her and her childrens toys with her. |
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So far, the Catholics haven't made it legal to fck fresh dead wives. Those muslim ba$terds are some sick mofos. They even have rules on how to screw animals. The rules about sex with animals apply to males only. In most Muslim countries, a woman must be executed for fornicating with any animal, even if it’s a pet. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FS5Xpdu4ELE#! The Catholics wont have a problem with women and children getting an education, dont have a problem if women have jobs, dont have a problem with women playing sports, dont have a problem with women driving. The Catholics dont worship someone who is a peodophile who married a 7 year old and who conumated the wedding after he played with her and her childrens toys with her. education and jobs and sports and driving are not religious domains in the US, they are an issue of NATIONAL RIGHTS who knows what 'catholics' may or may not have a problem with,,, women are still not allowed priesthood in the catholic church(not that I Care, just making a point) and pedophilia has been widely covered up in MODERN catholic churches far too often to judge what an Islamic prophet may or may not have done years ago,,, |
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Here in America is my home, what goes on in other countries has nothing to do with me. As if their behavior justifys our own, that is backward thinking. As for woman "supposabily" haveing equal rights is not only misleading but outright wrong. Woman are still struggling for equal rights. Supposibly is the right word. As for Muslim men not able to control their urges, rape in America is ranked number two in the worlds list of violent crimes. Murder by gun violence being number one in the world. Robberys and property ranking also on top of the worlds ranking. If a man cant control his carnal desires or regulate those desires to a woman, then man is indeed a sophisticated beast. There is no rational, logical, theorhetical, philisophical nor a moral justification for such behavior. Again, many a chicken and sheep have met the man beast in the cover of night. I need not go outside of the country to see bestiality, we have enough right here. Finally, moral conduct has nothing to do with religion, its defined by your state of mind. As for the parabell you were refering to, its not Islamic, its actually American, a whench is for breeding, a child is for laughter, but a fine hen is better then moonshine." Stories of Appalachia, by Arthur P. Goines, 1928. Alrighty. Let us take a step by step look at the problem with Islam all together... First of all what are Islam's core values? Law of the land matters not to Islam as long as they can gain a edge to usurp the power of the law of the land by raw numbers. Islam is at Holy War with all Infidels. Dare I spell out the exact passages yet again to explain their conduct pertaining to infidels? Next is Islam's concept of the acceptability of lying. It is a tool of war. And since Islam is at war with infidels they are to lie to us. If you give a mouse a cookie... The concept is not so silly when applied to real life. http://youtu.be/gZN4DYytjyw Yeah, the Catholic Church sucks. My life in Catholic high School was 3 1/2 of the worst years of my life! I fought their BS with knowledge of the bible equal to if not greater than their own! Thank you Lutheran Grade School! Lutherans are NOT so bad! All Religion is about power. So is racial struggle! So is male female relations! It is easy to quote what others write but it is far harder to construct an argument that must encompass an encyclopedia of information into a few sentences. America has room to work on making things right for the people of this nation. But when you want to use biased statistics against America in general and to support an argument of Moral Depravity and make it exclusive to America again that is unfair and fallacious. Sex sells. But people gravitate to the freakish and demented. Why do you think horror movies are so popular? People, HUMANS in general are violent animals. There is nothing sophisticated about us as a species. We are excellent tool users. We make tools. But what we use them for is the bad part. All bestial and animal gain. The need to dominate and be the dominate animal. All males secretly wish they were the prime stallion. "All for me!" That is the human condition. We are nothing more than smart animals that think too much of ourselves! On average humans are sheeple! Not all of us! I have a reasonable amount of personal self control. I have my vices but I don't steal from anyone. I don't cheat anyone. I don't lie when I don't have moment of weakness in judgment trying to protect myself from a bad situation! I likewise feel a lot of humans are twisted and very demented perverts in the closet but pretend to be noble and good people when they are not in a closed room doing some sick fetish BDSM involving diapers and a child's playpen! Its easy to look down our noses at others and sneer because we walk some imaginary moral high ground. It is like Frank Zappa says in the song, The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing, "Do what you wanna Do what you will Just don't mess up Your neighbor's thrill 'N when you pay the bill Kindly leave a little tip And help the next poor sucker On his one way trip... " Oh give me half a dozen towels for the Hotel Raooom! The sucky thing about freedom is it does empower a minority, a small hand full of people the idea they have a right to victimize others. But what of a religion that does the same? Does not Islam preach serious violence against infidels or do I need to show you proof of their huge sins! So you can stand here (or sit in this case) and admonish the idea that Islam likewise Victimizes children to a greater extent than America? At least here in America when we do catch a pedophile we punish them HARSHLY! I cannot concur with you at all! There is a rational explanation for this behavior! It is called the FREEDOM OF CHOICE! People have the freedom to make the WRONG CHOICES and sometimes the rush they get from those wrong choices makes them right choices FOR THAT PERSON! It is a point of contention 'why worry about what you cannot affect.' I mean for as sick as this may sound to you if some person can find a dog that puts up with them and they have freaky sex behind closed doors and I don't have to know about it and the two of them are happier for it (pardon me while I wash my mouth out with hydrogen peroxide and my fingers with acid!) then who am I to judge them? Islam talks so much about how only Allah is a judge yet all these Islamics are so damn eager to kill one another over the differing views within Islam! As long as i am not affected by it I have nothing to say about it judgment wise. Humans are needful and adaptive creatures! But above all else we are all animals! Nothing more! Sad but true! |
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For what it is worth, apparently, back in the year 1880 CE, age 10 was the age of sexual consent in some parts of the USA. (Information Source) Yea well we also adapted with the times and realised it was wrong and fixed it unlike the Muslims who want to keep their women uneducated and back in the dark ages so they wont think for them selves. |
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what verse of the Quran states Aishas age,,,,, can anyone point me to it...? according to the following WikiIslam article: "Aisha was Muhammad's child bride. Muhammad married her when she was six or seven years old and consummated the marriage when she was nine lunar years old. The section "Aisha's Age at Consummation and Marriage" lists the evidence for Aisha's young age. " http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Aisha There are numerous references and some variations in how the age is calculated are possible but here are some of the most frequently cited references. Personally I don't take it too literally but more as allegorical. Nevertheless here they are... Narrated Hisham's father: Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. Sahih Bukhari 5:58:236 Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Sahih Bukhari 7:62:64 Narrated 'Aisha: that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Sahih Bukhari 7:62:65 Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Sahih Bukhari 7:62:88 Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet was screening me with his Rida' (garment covering the upper part of the body) while I was looking at the Ethiopians who were playing in the courtyard of the mosque. (I continued watching) till I was satisfied. So you may deduce from this event how a little girl (who has not reached the age of puberty) who is eager to enjoy amusement should be treated in this respect. Sahih Bukhari 7:62:163 Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Sahih Bukhari 8:73:151 http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Aisha#Aisha.27s_Age_at_Consummation_and_Marriage this still doesnt clarify anything for me, but thanx for trying I already understood she was young and virginal upon MARRIAGE, but I was questioning whether the QURAN itself gave her age to be nine when she was joined with her husband physically, or if that is just an assumption repeated as fact,,,, The Hadith are definitive - they certainly are not a slur on Islam but are the correct Islamic interpretation of the Way of Muhammad. I'm not sure if her age appears explicitly in the revelations (Quran). Neither the Quran nor the Hadith are "factual" any more than the Bible is "factual". If taken literally all these texts have inconsistencies and are not usually considered to be historical fact. Religious texts should be considered to be spiritual and philosophical and interpreted in light of their antiquity rather than as historically accurate documents IMO. That is not to diminish their value and influence. These are some of humankind's earliest philosophical, moral and ethical writings and are immensely interesting and important and influential. The wikiislam article mentioned above seems to have a pretty full biographical description of Aisha's life and position within Islam. |
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Edited by
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"It is easy to look down our noses at others and sneer bacause we walk some imaginary moral highground", how ironic, thats exactly what this thread is all about. Only Muslims are the target. The rest of your post is just as worthy of non concurence. There is no such thing as "man being an animal". If thats your description of what defines men, then our recessive behavior is then justified. Animals conscience nor intellect can evolve further than what is now. What seperates man and animal is conscience and state of mind. American are the first to look down their noses and sneer and indeed walk an imaginary line pf morality your posts along with others and the name of this thread clearly make it quite evident. Calling man animals is a futile attempt to justify his behavior. NO, MAN IS NOT AN ANIMAL, BUT HIS REFUSAL TO SUBMITT TO HIS TRUE ESSENCE IS WHAT REGULATES HIM AS A MAN BEHAVING LIKE A BEAST. As for liers, there is no greater deciever then our goverment. I served this country with distinction, however I know full well that we are the greatest criminal goverment in world history. What do you think we are doing all over the world? Planting trees. We are an EMPIRE, WE DO THE LIEING TO JUSTIFY OUR EXPANSION. MUSLIMS ARE RESISTING. OUR ARMIES HAVE BEEN IN THEIR LANDS BEFORE 911. Enter a mans country with war, then expect his responce.
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Edited by
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Looking at the shape of the muslim world, taking care of our own could mean stamping out their power here in the US before it becomes a plague. What say ya'll about mulims legally screwing animals and their dead wives? Ain't gonna' touch dat?  sounds like you know something the rest of us don't... i grew in the country, on a farm, and never seen any of these things |
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For what it is worth, apparently, back in the year 1880 CE, age 10 was the age of sexual consent in some parts of the USA. (Information Source) Yea well we also adapted with the times and realised it was wrong and fixed it unlike the Muslims who want to keep their women uneducated and back in the dark ages so they wont think for them selves. |
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Pakistan: Muslims torture and murder 11-year-old Christian boy, detectives investigating whether he was accused of blasphemy Will the Islamophobia never end? "Christian boy tortured and killed in Pakistan," by Dean Nelson for the Telegraph, August 23 (thanks to David): The tortured body of an 11 year old Christian boy has been found in a town in Punjab, Pakistan, days after a young Christian girl was arrested on blasphemy charges. Detectives in Faisalabad, around 60 miles from Lahore, said they were investigating whether accusations of blasphemy had also been made against the boy. Human rights campaigners condemned the killing of Samuel Yaqoob whose burned and tortured body body [sic] was discovered on Eid, the celebration which marks the end of the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan. His lips and nose had been sliced off, his stomach removed and there was evidence that his legs had been mutilated too. The boy had been missing since Monday when he left his home in the town's Christian Colony to visit a local market. His relatives identified his body from a distinctive mark on his forehead. Yaquub was reported to be an orphan but in local newspaper reports his mother Asia Bibi was quoted denying he had been accused of blasphemy. "We neither received any phone call for ransom nor were we told that Samuel had committed blasphemy," she said. Police said they were investigating whether blasphemy had been behind the attack on Samuel. His death comes just days after the arrest of Rimsha Masih, an eleven year old girl with Down's Syndrome, after Muslims in Islamabad accused her of burning pages from the Koran for cooking.... Posted by Robert on August 23, 2012 To get back to the subject. I also think this is reprehensible and points out a glaring problem with religious intolerance and worse religious torture and persecution. But this is hardly limited to Muslims and only is a wildly aberrant an castigated practice among Muslims. The tone of the discussion as a Muslim-bashing thread is wrong. There are real legitimate fears concerning violent radical Islamists particularly because of the resurgence of terrorist attacks in the name of Allah - which is a great perversion of the religion. However, there is no doubt that the core teaching of Islam are not hateful or misanthropic regardless of the crazed and horrible defiling of the religion by the radical Islamic community. As I have pointed out in other forum threads, all the monotheistic religions worship the same God! If there is only one as they all agree then it is the same God for everyone, Buddhist, Jew, Muslim and Christian alike. The rest is merely dogma and ritual. It is futile and silly for one of them to claim superiority. What is really needed are strong leadership in the communities calling for mutual respect and cooperation as brothers and sisters rather than derision and trying to place one religion over another. |
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Looking at the shape of the muslim world, taking care of our own could mean stamping out their power here in the US before it becomes a plague. What say ya'll about mulims legally screwing animals and their dead wives? Ain't gonna' touch dat? sounds like you know something the rest of us don't... i grew in the country, on a farm, and never seen any of these things |
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Pakistan: Muslims torture and murder 11-year-old Christian boy, detectives investigating whether he was accused of blasphemy Will the Islamophobia never end? "Christian boy tortured and killed in Pakistan," by Dean Nelson for the Telegraph, August 23 (thanks to David): The tortured body of an 11 year old Christian boy has been found in a town in Punjab, Pakistan, days after a young Christian girl was arrested on blasphemy charges. Detectives in Faisalabad, around 60 miles from Lahore, said they were investigating whether accusations of blasphemy had also been made against the boy. Human rights campaigners condemned the killing of Samuel Yaqoob whose burned and tortured body body [sic] was discovered on Eid, the celebration which marks the end of the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan. His lips and nose had been sliced off, his stomach removed and there was evidence that his legs had been mutilated too. The boy had been missing since Monday when he left his home in the town's Christian Colony to visit a local market. His relatives identified his body from a distinctive mark on his forehead. Yaquub was reported to be an orphan but in local newspaper reports his mother Asia Bibi was quoted denying he had been accused of blasphemy. "We neither received any phone call for ransom nor were we told that Samuel had committed blasphemy," she said. Police said they were investigating whether blasphemy had been behind the attack on Samuel. His death comes just days after the arrest of Rimsha Masih, an eleven year old girl with Down's Syndrome, after Muslims in Islamabad accused her of burning pages from the Koran for cooking.... Posted by Robert on August 23, 2012 To get back to the subject. I also think this is reprehensible and points out a glaring problem with religious intolerance and worse religious torture and persecution. But this is hardly limited to Muslims and only is a wildly aberrant an castigated practice among Muslims. The tone of the discussion as a Muslim-bashing thread is wrong. There are real legitimate fears concerning violent radical Islamists particularly because of the resurgence of terrorist attacks in the name of Allah - which is a great perversion of the religion. However, there is no doubt that the core teaching of Islam are not hateful or misanthropic regardless of the crazed and horrible defiling of the religion by the radical Islamic community. As I have pointed out in other forum threads, all the monotheistic religions worship the same God! If there is only one as they all agree then it is the same God for everyone, Buddhist, Jew, Muslim and Christian alike. The rest is merely dogma and ritual. It is futile and silly for one of them to claim superiority. What is really needed are strong leadership in the communities calling for mutual respect and cooperation as brothers and sisters rather than derision and trying to place one religion over another. |
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(cont) and resources. The middle east is the most important agenda to date. If our military are in foriegn countries, its not to plant trees. This so called war is strictly political. Religion is merely a smoke screen we buy hook line and sinker, as war profiteers are very well aware how easily the gullible masses will follow the script.
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Looking at the shape of the muslim world, taking care of our own could mean stamping out their power here in the US before it becomes a plague. What say ya'll about mulims legally screwing animals and their dead wives? Ain't gonna' touch dat? sounds like you know something the rest of us don't... i grew in the country, on a farm, and never seen any of these things |
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