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Looking at the shape of the muslim world, taking care of our own could mean stamping out their power here in the US before it becomes a plague. What say ya'll about mulims legally screwing animals and their dead wives? Ain't gonna' touch dat? 
sounds like you know something the rest of us don't... i grew in the country, on a farm, and never seen any of these things |
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Well alot of this is just to spread hate towards muslims anywhere and in pakistan maybe pakistan is next on americas list god knows but some ppl on here
have sed some bad things about things they dont know about at all one fool sed muslims worship muhammed which is wrong shows how much he knows about anything as muslims only worship god n believe muhammed was the last messenger of god. Yes the prophet had many wives but his first was his love and she khadeeja I think asked his hand in marraige. Now alot go on to disrespect and call muhammed a pedo etc even ur own sorces cudnt n didnt prove he did anything like rape etc regarding the age of aisha yes he married her at an early age because of her pureness yes a child is pure n onto a pure child u can teach many things which they can remember n carry forward to teach n to live with the morals its easier to teach a child things than someone alot older coz then they are bought up with the teachi gs and beliefs n will follow n believe in what they have been taught, a child hus learnt the direct teachings can then wen they grow up carry the beliefs and teachings forward to the next generations etc when the prophet was shaheed (passed away) hence y aisha rebelled against the third calipha as she didnt agree with some of the practices that the calipha at time sed as she had seen the way the prophet lived n had his direct teachings she even helped out in war times aiding the wounded etc and another rumor about sex with dead wife and having sex with animals thats disgusting n not allowed in islam as man is made for woman n woman is made for man to reproduce n to b honest u cant reproduce with a dead person or an animal think about it and is just rumors being spread again to make the religion look bad some people I guess choose to b ignorant on purpose I guess Now back to the Topic at hand the fool hu posted it to spread hate just coz he hates muslims n pakistan etc himself and is uneducated In many ways and brainwashed by the media and internet media meeds to realize that alot of the media is propaganda and false again to spread hate between people of different culture and religions (now culture and religion are also too different things) ur seriously being naieve and fooled u need to b careful also from What I read about the eleven year old boys article is wrong but u also need to realize that there are always too sides to a story im not justifying what happened is right I think its awful but I hope u do realize that blasphemy can also be in other religions too Just from reading the story again its obvious its to spread hate and on a day such as eid after the month of forgiveness it sounds horrible and even if he did commit blasphemy unknowingly a child of very young age has not enough sense of whats right and wrong and can n shud be forgiven also one bit which I read if the child was soo severly burned how cud they recognize him from a mark on the forehead it does feel like propaganda but on another note seriously u shud stop spreading all these hateful messages theres already too much hate in this world thats y there are wars n dumb peopke trying to show thier power n dominance people loosi g thier lives everyday in every country becoz of hate racism discrimination etc It really annoys me n I wish I could do something about it myself but alas im not influebtial enough yet lol and if there are any mods here I ask of u to delete this thread its just for spreading hate not for informing |
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I disagree.
This topic is important. It is no rumor that muslims have been given the right to screw dead women. And, there are recorded rules on how muslim men can sex animals. |
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I disagree. This topic is important. It is no rumor that muslims have been given the right to screw dead women. And, there are recorded rules on how muslim men can sex animals. Again like I said for muslims sex is to have pleasure with ur wife or husband and for, wen they are ready, to have kids now like I sed u cant have kids with someone nus dead and also definatly not with animals also with animals there are higher chances of catching disease etc n even with a deceased wife too as imune system etc is not working bacteria multiply quicker etcso like I sed uv just heard a rumor wich isnt true and I will look into it myself too |
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Edited by
s1owhand
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Pakistan: Muslims torture and murder 11-year-old Christian boy, detectives investigating whether he was accused of blasphemy Will the Islamophobia never end? "Christian boy tortured and killed in Pakistan," by Dean Nelson for the Telegraph, August 23 (thanks to David): The tortured body of an 11 year old Christian boy has been found in a town in Punjab, Pakistan, days after a young Christian girl was arrested on blasphemy charges. Detectives in Faisalabad, around 60 miles from Lahore, said they were investigating whether accusations of blasphemy had also been made against the boy. Human rights campaigners condemned the killing of Samuel Yaqoob whose burned and tortured body body [sic] was discovered on Eid, the celebration which marks the end of the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan. His lips and nose had been sliced off, his stomach removed and there was evidence that his legs had been mutilated too. The boy had been missing since Monday when he left his home in the town's Christian Colony to visit a local market. His relatives identified his body from a distinctive mark on his forehead. Yaquub was reported to be an orphan but in local newspaper reports his mother Asia Bibi was quoted denying he had been accused of blasphemy. "We neither received any phone call for ransom nor were we told that Samuel had committed blasphemy," she said. Police said they were investigating whether blasphemy had been behind the attack on Samuel. His death comes just days after the arrest of Rimsha Masih, an eleven year old girl with Down's Syndrome, after Muslims in Islamabad accused her of burning pages from the Koran for cooking.... Posted by Robert on August 23, 2012 To get back to the subject. I also think this is reprehensible and points out a glaring problem with religious intolerance and worse religious torture and persecution. But this is hardly limited to Muslims and only is a wildly aberrant an castigated practice among Muslims. The tone of the discussion as a Muslim-bashing thread is wrong. There are real legitimate fears concerning violent radical Islamists particularly because of the resurgence of terrorist attacks in the name of Allah - which is a great perversion of the religion. However, there is no doubt that the core teaching of Islam are not hateful or misanthropic regardless of the crazed and horrible defiling of the religion by the radical Islamic community. As I have pointed out in other forum threads, all the monotheistic religions worship the same God! If there is only one as they all agree then it is the same God for everyone, Buddhist, Jew, Muslim and Christian alike. The rest is merely dogma and ritual. It is futile and silly for one of them to claim superiority. What is really needed are strong leadership in the communities calling for mutual respect and cooperation as brothers and sisters rather than derision and trying to place one religion over another. 
Re-read the original post. This thread posits religious persecution of a Christian boy by radical Islamists, her arrest and the unjust accusations based solely on his faith. It is about law in Pakistan criminalizing religious observance that is not Muslim. Has nothing to do with global domination conspiracy theories! 
Except perhaps radical Islamists attempts to convert everybody or arrest them if they don't convert! 
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Looking at the shape of the muslim world, taking care of our own could mean stamping out their power here in the US before it becomes a plague. What say ya'll about mulims legally screwing animals and their dead wives? Ain't gonna' touch dat?
sounds like you know something the rest of us don't... i grew in the country, on a farm, and never seen any of these things |
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I disagree. This topic is important. It is no rumor that muslims have been given the right to screw dead women. And, there are recorded rules on how muslim men can sex animals. Again like I said for muslims sex is to have pleasure with ur wife or husband and for, wen they are ready, to have kids now like I sed u cant have kids with someone nus dead and also definatly not with animals also with animals there are higher chances of catching disease etc n even with a deceased wife too as imune system etc is not working bacteria multiply quicker etcso like I sed uv just heard a rumor wich isnt true and I will look into it myself too i'm not trying to bash muslims, but until women have the rights they deserve, i won't have much good to say about them... it's the muslims choice, either get with the rest of the civilized world, or continue to be harassed about it.. |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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A criminal is a criminal no matter the religion. Unless they are Jews. Any mention of a Jew being a criminal, a pedophile, a dictator, or a mass murderer is called being anti-semitic.  
The following are all American, men who by religous affiliations were Christians, of course they really were not. Rodney Alcala, Arthur G. Bishop, Dennis Radar,(btk strangler), John Evander Couey, Dean Coril, Pedro A. Lopez, Richard Chase (vampire of Sacramento), Ward Weaver lll, Nathaniel B. Jonah, all child molestors, killers and necrophiliacs. All American. The following are the worst cannibals, necrophiliacs, rapist seriel killers in American history. Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Albert Fish, Carl Panzram, David (son of sam) Berkovitz, Charls Manson, Edward Theodore Gein, Ottis Toole, Henry Lee Lucas, Donald H. Gaskins, Donald Harvey, Gary Ridgway, Ailieen Wuornos. With all these sick wackos in our own country, we need to address our own short comings, as opposed to critiquing others. By the way, didnt find any muslim cannibals or seriel killers, sorry. that's anti-Chistianism
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Edited by
AndyBgood
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"It is easy to look down our noses at others and sneer bacause we walk some imaginary moral highground", how ironic, thats exactly what this thread is all about. Only Muslims are the target. The rest of your post is just as worthy of non concurence. There is no such thing as "man being an animal". If thats your description of what defines men, then our recessive behavior is then justified. Animals conscience nor intellect can evolve further than what is now. What seperates man and animal is conscience and state of mind. American are the first to look down their noses and sneer and indeed walk an imaginary line pf morality your posts along with others and the name of this thread clearly make it quite evident. Calling man animals is a futile attempt to justify his behavior. NO, MAN IS NOT AN ANIMAL, BUT HIS REFUSAL TO SUBMITT TO HIS TRUE ESSENCE IS WHAT REGULATES HIM AS A MAN BEHAVING LIKE A BEAST. As for liers, there is no greater deciever then our goverment. I served this country with distinction, however I know full well that we are the greatest criminal goverment in world history. What do you think we are doing all over the world? Planting trees. We are an EMPIRE, WE DO THE LIEING TO JUSTIFY OUR EXPANSION. MUSLIMS ARE RESISTING. OUR ARMIES HAVE BEEN IN THEIR LANDS BEFORE 911. Enter a mans country with war, then expect his responce. Muslims are not the target. ISLAM IS THE TARGET! Again a intolerant violent bigoted, hypocritical faith based on the pretext god chose them over everyone else and therefore they are to kill and subjugate the rest of us for what end? To Appease Allah? Gee, sounds like the Aztecs to me! 
Working SO HARD TO APPEASE FACELESS GODS! Sorry but perverts in America do not preach a religion that is the template for their actions! We chase them down as well but when a religion preaches the crap Islam does you bet I will oppose them. You bet I will ridicule them. Especially when they justify murder in their gods name! "Go ahead and hate your neighbor, Go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, You can justify it in the end. There won't be any trumpets blowing Come the judgement day, On the bloody morning after.... One tin soldier rides away." The most perverted thing on this world wrought by the hands of man currently is ISLAM! If any one group would get us into an interplanetary war with an intelligent technology using species would be Islam! I could just see a peaceful ambassadorial mission from another planet and when the doors open this walks out saying "I come in peace." 
How long would that ambassador last in say Saudi Arabia or even better yet, Pakistan? I would bet when these pieces of human filth kill the ambassador they let loose soldiers like this on us! 
I have a lot of room to talk here. I am not out hurting people or taking advantage of Children. I do not hurt animals. I actually wish humanity would wake up and be better stewards of this world rather than think we have some fake dominion over a world far larger then us all! |
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There is freedom of religion there otherwise there wudnt b any christians living there and the sieks have a main gurdwara in lahore 
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The US has imported many of the muslim third-worlders and there are extremist, separatist Muslims here. Should I name a few? Very authentic statement this is. |
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Pakistan: Muslims torture and murder 11-year-old Christian boy, detectives investigating whether he was accused of blasphemy Will the Islamophobia never end? "Christian boy tortured and killed in Pakistan," by Dean Nelson for the Telegraph, August 23 (thanks to David): The tortured body of an 11 year old Christian boy has been found in a town in Punjab, Pakistan, days after a young Christian girl was arrested on blasphemy charges. Detectives in Faisalabad, around 60 miles from Lahore, said they were investigating whether accusations of blasphemy had also been made against the boy. Human rights campaigners condemned the killing of Samuel Yaqoob whose burned and tortured body body [sic] was discovered on Eid, the celebration which marks the end of the Islamic fasting month of Ramadan. His lips and nose had been sliced off, his stomach removed and there was evidence that his legs had been mutilated too. The boy had been missing since Monday when he left his home in the town's Christian Colony to visit a local market. His relatives identified his body from a distinctive mark on his forehead. Yaquub was reported to be an orphan but in local newspaper reports his mother Asia Bibi was quoted denying he had been accused of blasphemy. "We neither received any phone call for ransom nor were we told that Samuel had committed blasphemy," she said. Police said they were investigating whether blasphemy had been behind the attack on Samuel. His death comes just days after the arrest of Rimsha Masih, an eleven year old girl with Down's Syndrome, after Muslims in Islamabad accused her of burning pages from the Koran for cooking.... Posted by Robert on August 23, 2012 To get back to the subject. I also think this is reprehensible and points out a glaring problem with religious intolerance and worse religious torture and persecution. But this is hardly limited to Muslims and only is a wildly aberrant an castigated practice among Muslims. The tone of the discussion as a Muslim-bashing thread is wrong. There are real legitimate fears concerning violent radical Islamists particularly because of the resurgence of terrorist attacks in the name of Allah - which is a great perversion of the religion. However, there is no doubt that the core teaching of Islam are not hateful or misanthropic regardless of the crazed and horrible defiling of the religion by the radical Islamic community. As I have pointed out in other forum threads, all the monotheistic religions worship the same God! If there is only one as they all agree then it is the same God for everyone, Buddhist, Jew, Muslim and Christian alike. The rest is merely dogma and ritual. It is futile and silly for one of them to claim superiority. What is really needed are strong leadership in the communities calling for mutual respect and cooperation as brothers and sisters rather than derision and trying to place one religion over another. GOD I LOVE WIKIPEDIA! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_war Islam and War! Note that to take up the Quran you are commanded to make holy war on all infidels! I am sure this will illustrate the threat Islam really does pose! I am sorry but terrorism is real. All governments and religions use it. You don't think that whole line "You need to accept Jesus as your savior to get into heaven or you face burning forever in Hell," is not an act of Terrorism? ANY USE OF FEAR IN ANY WAY IS TERRORISM! The only small difference is that Islam chooses War and Death as the fear they sell. Christianity is a lie but why give up one lie for another? I turned my back on the idea the murder of a man can absolve me of my crimes when I have to face god. When I have to face god I may start to go to a knee but I will stop myself and stand up right in God's own face and I will demand to know what the hell was he doing! I came to a realization that if I am a child of God that I have a duty to grow to be like God. We ALL are children of God and none of us are any more chosen than the other. The question that leaves me is how do we prove we are better than the other guy? You see I am sure you will completely miss what I am going to try to say here... Christians get mad when you burn a bible but they can and do print others. People besides Islamics burn them. But when you burn a Quran or even drop it on the ground on accident you stand to be killed. If you tell a Christian that Jesus is the son of the devil they get defensive. Most will try to convince you other wise. A few will throw a punch. And even extremely rarely one might try to kill the offender. Like the saying goes, "There is one in every crowd." But if you say one bad thing about Muhammad in any way Islamics fly into a rage. Some will indeed try to kill the offender on the spot! Christians and Islamics say "Not to judge" but Christians do like Islamics with one difference. Where Christians will socially cut you off Islamics enslave and murder people ON THE SPOT! Christians preach to love thy fellow man and love thy enemy. I am not exactly Christianity's friend. I oppose the hypocrisy of it! There is a branch of Christians who do indeed get it and they are a small minority. These are the Christians who follow the two commandments and do not worship Jesus or saints or anything else. they do keep God in their hearts only! I have found a few over the years who follow the TEACHINGS of Jesus, NOT MAKE A DEITY OF A MAN AND WORSHIP HIM LIKE GOD! Muhammad was a man. Nothing more. his ascension into heaven to me is made up! Islam commands no Idolatry or the worship of saints yet here is Muhammad set upon a pedestal and should anyone even show the mildest hint of disrespect or even dray his image they are beaten and or killed! Mosques are a form of Idolatry. The obvious worship like respect for Muhammad is Deifying a man like the Catholic Church does with Jesus, Mary, and the Saints. So no Hypocrisy in Islam? AS IF! Islam teaches to Make HOLY WAR on ALL infidels. Couple that with other commandments on how to handle Infidels such as lie to them, cheat them, steal from them, in essence anything goes when making war on Infidels. NOTHING ANY AND ALL MUSLIMS AND ISLAMICS can say to me will be taken as the truth! I am an infidel and refuse Islam's Scriptures. Islam is a false faith made up by men of hate. I will back down on Muslims when they give up the Quran and Muhammad! You see the OP likewise as mentioned by others here was about a Boy who was MURDERED over a BOOK! The fact ins in these rural towns the local Islamics will use any excuse to kill off the children of Christians by claiming that child defiled their holy book. It is illegal to kill someone or inflict a death penalty for book burning here. They can burn Bibles but Not Qurans there? Islam says it respects other faiths yet spells out that Islam is to conquer them all. ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF HYPOCRISY AND LIES! Can you come up with a defense where the criminal constantly recuse themselves over and over and over again in testimony and factual evidence? So you are saying America is bad because children are dying and victimized here but when a child is murdered in Pakistan America is still more messed up? You served in the military? Any chance you can tell us what unit? I know about four people who serve currently and I can check out if your information is any good. I don't need name, rank, or any of that crap. What unit were you in? What did you do? I am not buying 'Classified' as the answer either. The reason why I ask is that for someone who served you sure have a peculiar way of looking at things. You hijack a thread to bash America while we are addressing the murder of a CHILD in the name of God (ALLAH)! Do you have any idea how heinous a crime it would be if Christians murdered an Islamic child by stoning for burning a bible? |
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"It is easy to look down our noses at others and sneer bacause we walk some imaginary moral highground", how ironic, thats exactly what this thread is all about. Only Muslims are the target. The rest of your post is just as worthy of non concurence. There is no such thing as "man being an animal". If thats your description of what defines men, then our recessive behavior is then justified. Animals conscience nor intellect can evolve further than what is now. What seperates man and animal is conscience and state of mind. American are the first to look down their noses and sneer and indeed walk an imaginary line pf morality your posts along with others and the name of this thread clearly make it quite evident. Calling man animals is a futile attempt to justify his behavior. NO, MAN IS NOT AN ANIMAL, BUT HIS REFUSAL TO SUBMITT TO HIS TRUE ESSENCE IS WHAT REGULATES HIM AS A MAN BEHAVING LIKE A BEAST. As for liers, there is no greater deciever then our goverment. I served this country with distinction, however I know full well that we are the greatest criminal goverment in world history. What do you think we are doing all over the world? Planting trees. We are an EMPIRE, WE DO THE LIEING TO JUSTIFY OUR EXPANSION. MUSLIMS ARE RESISTING. OUR ARMIES HAVE BEEN IN THEIR LANDS BEFORE 911. Enter a mans country with war, then expect his responce. Muslims are not the target. ISLAM IS THE TARGET! Again a intolerant violent bigoted, hypocritical faith based on the pretext god chose them over everyone else and therefore they are to kill and subjugate the rest of us for what end? To Appease Allah? Gee, sounds like the Aztecs to me!
Working SO HARD TO APPEASE FACELESS GODS! Sorry but perverts in America do not preach a religion that is the template for their actions! We chase them down as well but when a religion preaches the crap Islam does you bet I will oppose them. You bet I will ridicule them. Especially when they justify murder in their gods name! "Go ahead and hate your neighbor, Go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, You can justify it in the end. There won't be any trumpets blowing Come the judgement day, On the bloody morning after.... One tin soldier rides away." The most perverted thing on this world wrought by the hands of man currently is ISLAM! If any one group would get us into an interplanetary war with an intelligent technology using species would be Islam! I could just see a peaceful ambassadorial mission from another planet and when the doors open this walks out saying "I come in peace."
How long would that ambassador last in say Saudi Arabia or even better yet, Pakistan? I would bet when these pieces of human filth kill the ambassador they let loose soldiers like this on us!
I have a lot of room to talk here. I am not out hurting people or taking advantage of Children. I do not hurt animals. I actually wish humanity would wake up and be better stewards of this world rather than think we have some fake dominion over a world far larger then us all! |
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Edited by
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"It is easy to look down our noses at others and sneer bacause we walk some imaginary moral highground", how ironic, thats exactly what this thread is all about. Only Muslims are the target. The rest of your post is just as worthy of non concurence. There is no such thing as "man being an animal". If thats your description of what defines men, then our recessive behavior is then justified. Animals conscience nor intellect can evolve further than what is now. What seperates man and animal is conscience and state of mind. American are the first to look down their noses and sneer and indeed walk an imaginary line pf morality your posts along with others and the name of this thread clearly make it quite evident. Calling man animals is a futile attempt to justify his behavior. NO, MAN IS NOT AN ANIMAL, BUT HIS REFUSAL TO SUBMITT TO HIS TRUE ESSENCE IS WHAT REGULATES HIM AS A MAN BEHAVING LIKE A BEAST. As for liers, there is no greater deciever then our goverment. I served this country with distinction, however I know full well that we are the greatest criminal goverment in world history. What do you think we are doing all over the world? Planting trees. We are an EMPIRE, WE DO THE LIEING TO JUSTIFY OUR EXPANSION. MUSLIMS ARE RESISTING. OUR ARMIES HAVE BEEN IN THEIR LANDS BEFORE 911. Enter a mans country with war, then expect his responce. Muslims are not the target. ISLAM IS THE TARGET! Again a intolerant violent bigoted, hypocritical faith based on the pretext god chose them over everyone else and therefore they are to kill and subjugate the rest of us for what end? To Appease Allah? Gee, sounds like the Aztecs to me!
Working SO HARD TO APPEASE FACELESS GODS! Sorry but perverts in America do not preach a religion that is the template for their actions! We chase them down as well but when a religion preaches the crap Islam does you bet I will oppose them. You bet I will ridicule them. Especially when they justify murder in their gods name! "Go ahead and hate your neighbor, Go ahead and cheat a friend. Do it in the name of Heaven, You can justify it in the end. There won't be any trumpets blowing Come the judgement day, On the bloody morning after.... One tin soldier rides away." The most perverted thing on this world wrought by the hands of man currently is ISLAM! If any one group would get us into an interplanetary war with an intelligent technology using species would be Islam! I could just see a peaceful ambassadorial mission from another planet and when the doors open this walks out saying "I come in peace."
How long would that ambassador last in say Saudi Arabia or even better yet, Pakistan? I would bet when these pieces of human filth kill the ambassador they let loose soldiers like this on us!
I have a lot of room to talk here. I am not out hurting people or taking advantage of Children. I do not hurt animals. I actually wish humanity would wake up and be better stewards of this world rather than think we have some fake dominion over a world far larger then us all! That is a piss poor argument! That likewise is a total excuse! The Aztecs were slaughtering 20,000 people a MONTH at the height of their empire over the span of their empire. The killed to appease their Gods but their empire is now in the sand! African Kings had entire cities worth of slaves and servants buried along side of them in death! You dare discuss extremes with me like this? You are so WRONG! ideologies can be fought with education, proof, and truth backed by a strong pimp hand should they elect to utilize violence to back their point with the whole "Might makes right," argument. Islam should be fought at every turn by putting the proof in their faces they follow a liar! If the Catholic Church had to face their Martin Luther then Islam is long over due for their version! Education and information have undone a lot of the power of the Catholic and many Christian churches. In the here and NOW, the PRESENT DAY WORLD, Islam is the REAL problem because it feeds on Poverty and deception. Then again if it works for Islam why not our own government. Islam has been around longer than America has! OH NO, A HARD FACT! Your argument is cyclical, and is not well founded. you seem to act like it is exclusively our government who is the problem. You seem to forget the Voter is also a problem. Who again puts these men in power? VOTERS! So how does a murder in Pakistan become "America is so terrible" again? You have no clue what New World Order is, do you? |
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Edited by
Ras427
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The New World Order is a subject that would deflect this present thread, as it is indeed a topic of great extensive and varied view points. Perhaps a thread could be created to further have dialogue. However on this thread my points of view are not peculiar at all. What happenes is that it is quite disturbing the true facts regarding our stance on Islam. My position come from carefull observation to the untold events iv witnessed myself. The war against Muslims is all about securing the strategic landlock that is the middle east. Very crucial if we are to maintain our influance and supremacy in the region. As for the Aztecs, primitive thinking produce primitive results. By the way, I DONT ARGUE, EVER!, ill leave that to you. I merely present my position. I stand for truth, justice, and equallity, that is who I am, my service for my country only reaffirmed my position, as I understand the mechanics that drive our foreign policy. We will tell you anything that will affirm those policys. As for my service, not that is on topic nor any of your business, but I understand why you ask, you are in a debate with yourself, and need validation. But I served four tours in mainly Fallujah. I served in the US Army. The 325 Airborne Infantry regiment 82 Airborne division 3rd Battalion was among the first deployed along with the 2nd to Iraq. But that is not on topic, so ill return to reaffirm to my position that the so called war on terror has nothing to do with Islam. The middle east has one of the smallest Muslim populations in the world. Indonasia has the worlds biggest Muslim populations. Not counting the 57 million Muslims in China(Uyghars). So your position on the war on Islam is not only misleading, but false altogether. Nothing you say will change the fact that the truth regarding this war is sheer politics. The American people are truly gullible. An effective war requires the well seasoning of the masses to except their sons being sent to fight. Unfortunately we lied, the war is for power, gains, resources, strategic positioning. Why cant people understand that they have been had? BUT BEFORE TROOPS ARE DEPLOYED, THE MASSES MUST FIRST APPROVE, THAT APPROVAL COMES AFTER HOLLYWOOD AND THE MEDIA HIT YOU WITH SHOCK AND AWE, HATE MUSLIMS, THEN WE CAN SET IT OFF. FRANKLY, AMERICANS ARE DUMB.
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The New World Order is a subject that would deflect this present thread, as it is indeed a topic of great extensive and varied view points. Perhaps a thread could be created to further have dialogue. However on this thread my points of view are not peculiar at all. What happenes is that it is quite disturbing the true facts regarding our stance on Islam. My position come from carefull observation to the untold events iv witnessed myself. The war against Muslims is all about securing the strategic landlock that is the middle east. Very crucial if we are to maintain our influance and supremacy in the region. As for the Aztecs, primitive thinking produce primitive results. By the way, I DONT ARGUE, EVER!, ill leave that to you. I merely present my position. I stand for truth, justice, and equallity, that is who I am, my service for my country only reaffirmed my position, as I understand the mechanics that drive our foreign policy. We will tell you anything that will affirm those policys. As for my service, not that is on topic nor any of your business, but I understand why you ask, you are in a debate with yourself, and need validation. But I served four tours in mainly Fallujah. I served in the US Army. The 325 AirborneInfantry thank you for your service, it is a good thing the sacrifice you made... but truth is always subjective, what may be a truth to you, may not be a truth to others... our situations and daily dealings define our truths, and they are rarely the same for people... |
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The New World Order is a subject that would deflect this present thread, as it is indeed a topic of great extensive and varied view points. Perhaps a thread could be created to further have dialogue. However on this thread my points of view are not peculiar at all. What happenes is that it is quite disturbing the true facts regarding our stance on Islam. My position come from carefull observation to the untold events iv witnessed myself. The war against Muslims is all about securing the strategic landlock that is the middle east. Very crucial if we are to maintain our influance and supremacy in the region. As for the Aztecs, primitive thinking produce primitive results. By the way, I DONT ARGUE, EVER!, ill leave that to you. I merely present my position. I stand for truth, justice, and equallity, that is who I am, my service for my country only reaffirmed my position, as I understand the mechanics that drive our foreign policy. We will tell you anything that will affirm those policys. As for my service, not that is on topic nor any of your business, but I understand why you ask, you are in a debate with yourself, and need validation. But I served four tours in mainly Fallujah. I served in the US Army. The 325 AirborneInfantry thank you for your service, it is a good thing the sacrifice you made... but truth is always subjective, what may be a truth to you, may not be a truth to others... our situations and daily dealings define our truths, and they are rarely the same for people... |
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The New World Order is a subject that would deflect this present thread, as it is indeed a topic of great extensive and varied view points. Perhaps a thread could be created to further have dialogue. However on this thread my points of view are not peculiar at all. What happenes is that it is quite disturbing the true facts regarding our stance on Islam. My position come from carefull observation to the untold events iv witnessed myself. The war against Muslims is all about securing the strategic landlock that is the middle east. Very crucial if we are to maintain our influance and supremacy in the region. As for the Aztecs, primitive thinking produce primitive results. By the way, I DONT ARGUE, EVER!, ill leave that to you. I merely present my position. I stand for truth, justice, and equallity, that is who I am, my service for my country only reaffirmed my position, as I understand the mechanics that drive our foreign policy. We will tell you anything that will affirm those policys. As for my service, not that is on topic nor any of your business, but I understand why you ask, you are in a debate with yourself, and need validation. But I served four tours in mainly Fallujah. I served in the US Army. The 325 Airborne Infantry regiment 82 Airborne division 3rd Battalion was among the first deployed along with the 2nd to Iraq. But that is not on topic, so ill return to reaffirm to my position that the so called war on terror has nothing to do with Islam. The middle east has one of the smallest Muslim populations in the world. Indonasia has the worlds biggest Muslim populations. Not counting the 57 million Muslims in China(Uyghars). So your position on the war on Islam is not only misleading, but false altogether. Nothing you say will change the fact that the truth regarding this war is sheer politics. The American people are truly gullible. An effective war requires the well seasoning of the masses to except their sons being sent to fight. Unfortunately we lied, the war is for power, gains, resources, strategic positioning. Why cant people understand that they have been had? BUT BEFORE TROOPS ARE DEPLOYED, THE MASSES MUST FIRST APPROVE, THAT APPROVAL COMES AFTER HOLLYWOOD AND THE MEDIA HIT YOU WITH SHOCK AND AWE, HATE MUSLIMS, THEN WE CAN SET IT OFF. FRANKLY, AMERICANS ARE DUMB. First of all wanted to be sure I was addressing a real soldier of the armed forces of America. Not some pretendabe Veteran. Over the years I have come across a lot of pretenders. I can respect your service and in that I can at least give you a measure of respect that is deserved. The fact here is that I am not seeking validation. I want to make sure you are not BSing me! But to see how you point fingers and bash one side (America) and give lauds to a religion of Bigotry and hate such as Islam baffles me. There are other religions that are far less hypocritical, of them is Buddhism, Taoism, and Sikh. the thing is some of us have decided that all paths presented to heaven are WRONG and either lies, fallacious, or miss the whole truth somewhere. All religion is a form of thought control. And Islam like Christianity is just as if not more extreme. My war on Islam is because of their war on me! I read a Quran and I am sorry but seven years of seven day a week of having the bible pounded into my head and then learning to dissect an argument and asking a lot of questions about hypocrites found in the bible that led me to figure out that nothing wrong by the hand of man does any good when it is in the name of god. You act like China has not been dealing with Terrorism. Well, BBC news carries stories of that going on as does other odd ball news sources. The Uyghars have been very naughty lately. China has had a bombing and suicide bombing here and there in their eastern frontiers. Now here is a thought, Tibet was a nation based on peace and coexistence and China took them over. The whole "we have a claim to this land" argument! It was so easy to quash the people of Tibet but the Uyghars are a whole different story. Dude, how many people scoffed the release of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" while the brown Shirts were gaining power in German politics preying off of the anger and hatred Germany felt for being screwed so badly by the treaty of Versailles? And then as Germany started to pull their blitzkrieg how many of those who scoffed Mein Kampf as rhetoric began to realize the error of ignoring what was coming to them spelled out in black and white? What the Quran preaches and teaches is not love or respect. For as demented as the bible is it is not anywhere near as screwed up as the Quran. Within this year alone several churches in Indonesia were burned down and Christians attacked en mass! Hmmmm, Uganda, Somalia, Libya, Tanzania, Kenya, all seem to be having problems with Islamic militants attacking them.... not Christian militants... No I do not trust the media but some stuff may be disinformation but it is mixed with real information. But when the DEMOCRATIC party began to deregulate stuff en masse Broadcasting was one of those areas and laws meant to protect us from the lying and twisting of facts have new been thrown out the window! SO GEE, What to do about the media. maybe the FCC needs to have its fangs reinstalled and the old rules brought back? |
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The New World Order is a subject that would deflect this present thread, as it is indeed a topic of great extensive and varied view points. Perhaps a thread could be created to further have dialogue. However on this thread my points of view are not peculiar at all. What happenes is that it is quite disturbing the true facts regarding our stance on Islam. My position come from carefull observation to the untold events iv witnessed myself. The war against Muslims is all about securing the strategic landlock that is the middle east. Very crucial if we are to maintain our influance and supremacy in the region. As for the Aztecs, primitive thinking produce primitive results. By the way, I DONT ARGUE, EVER!, ill leave that to you. I merely present my position. I stand for truth, justice, and equallity, that is who I am, my service for my country only reaffirmed my position, as I understand the mechanics that drive our foreign policy. We will tell you anything that will affirm those policys. As for my service, not that is on topic nor any of your business, but I understand why you ask, you are in a debate with yourself, and need validation. But I served four tours in mainly Fallujah. I served in the US Army. The 325 Airborne Infantry regiment 82 Airborne division 3rd Battalion was among the first deployed along with the 2nd to Iraq. But that is not on topic, so ill return to reaffirm to my position that the so called war on terror has nothing to do with Islam. The middle east has one of the smallest Muslim populations in the world. Indonasia has the worlds biggest Muslim populations. Not counting the 57 million Muslims in China(Uyghars). So your position on the war on Islam is not only misleading, but false altogether. Nothing you say will change the fact that the truth regarding this war is sheer politics. The American people are truly gullible. An effective war requires the well seasoning of the masses to except their sons being sent to fight. Unfortunately we lied, the war is for power, gains, resources, strategic positioning. Why cant people understand that they have been had? BUT BEFORE TROOPS ARE DEPLOYED, THE MASSES MUST FIRST APPROVE, THAT APPROVAL COMES AFTER HOLLYWOOD AND THE MEDIA HIT YOU WITH SHOCK AND AWE, HATE MUSLIMS, THEN WE CAN SET IT OFF. FRANKLY, AMERICANS ARE DUMB. First of all wanted to be sure I was addressing a real soldier of the armed forces of America. Not some pretendabe Veteran. Over the years I have come across a lot of pretenders. I can respect your service and in that I can at least give you a measure of respect that is deserved. The fact here is that I am not seeking validation. I want to make sure you are not BSing me! But to see how you point fingers and bash one side (America) and give lauds to a religion of Bigotry and hate such as Islam baffles me. There are other religions that are far less hypocritical, of them is Buddhism, Taoism, and Sikh. the thing is some of us have decided that all paths presented to heaven are WRONG and either lies, fallacious, or miss the whole truth somewhere. All religion is a form of thought control. And Islam like Christianity is just as if not more extreme. My war on Islam is because of their war on me! I read a Quran and I am sorry but seven years of seven day a week of having the bible pounded into my head and then learning to dissect an argument and asking a lot of questions about hypocrites found in the bible that led me to figure out that nothing wrong by the hand of man does any good when it is in the name of god. You act like China has not been dealing with Terrorism. Well, BBC news carries stories of that going on as does other odd ball news sources. The Uyghars have been very naughty lately. China has had a bombing and suicide bombing here and there in their eastern frontiers. Now here is a thought, Tibet was a nation based on peace and coexistence and China took them over. The whole "we have a claim to this land" argument! It was so easy to quash the people of Tibet but the Uyghars are a whole different story. Dude, how many people scoffed the release of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" while the brown Shirts were gaining power in German politics preying off of the anger and hatred Germany felt for being screwed so badly by the treaty of Versailles? And then as Germany started to pull their blitzkrieg how many of those who scoffed Mein Kampf as rhetoric began to realize the error of ignoring what was coming to them spelled out in black and white? What the Quran preaches and teaches is not love or respect. For as demented as the bible is it is not anywhere near as screwed up as the Quran. Within this year alone several churches in Indonesia were burned down and Christians attacked en mass! Hmmmm, Uganda, Somalia, Libya, Tanzania, Kenya, all seem to be having problems with Islamic militants attacking them.... not Christian militants... No I do not trust the media but some stuff may be disinformation but it is mixed with real information. But when the DEMOCRATIC party began to deregulate stuff en masse Broadcasting was one of those areas and laws meant to protect us from the lying and twisting of facts have new been thrown out the window! SO GEE, What to do about the media. maybe the FCC needs to have its fangs reinstalled and the old rules brought back? |
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