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Topic: Creflo Dollar?
CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 07/03/12 12:27 PM
Apples and oranges again. It is a parents responsibility to raise that child and "teach" it right from wrong. Some people use spanking, some use others. But nevertheless it is to teach the child. It is not a husband's job to teach/raise his wife, so the two again have absolutely nothin to do with one another. do unto others as you want them to do unto you..."The Golden Rule" therefore if you beat a child as to teach him...you want the same to be inflicted upon you by your spouse to teach you or can we say "Hypocrite"? It is not your job to teach your spouse anything. It is not your job to teach anyone but your children anything. And no one's beating any child. Beating and discipline are two different things.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 07/03/12 12:28 PM
perhaps she did , perhaps something else was effective for Jesus, perhaps Jesus didnt need it raising children is not the one size fits all process so many (usually childless) people think it is,,,, that's the same as saying that those that have never been married don't understand why a husband should beat his wife or vise versa why would spanking children be any different than spousal abuse because a hug is different than a squeeze because grounding is different than kidnapping because CONTEXT has alot to do with the relevance of our actions and inactions,,, so MsHarmony...do you believe that it's ok to inflict pain on your spouse to teach them nope, I dont 'teach' my spouse, I am also not legally responsible for them or their actions except sometimes financially,,,

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 07/03/12 12:30 PM
Apples and oranges again. It is a parents responsibility to raise that child and "teach" it right from wrong. Some people use spanking, some use others. But nevertheless it is to teach the child. It is not a husband's job to teach/raise his wife, so the two again have absolutely nothin to do with one another. do unto others as you want them to do unto you..."The Golden Rule" therefore if you beat a child as to teach him...you want the same to be inflicted upon you by your spouse to teach you or can we say "Hypocrite"? nope, context again is important, its becoming something people keep ignoring for some reason if you have sex with your spouse to show them love,, do you want to show your children love in the same manner? I think not,,,different situations, different context, different actions,,,

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 07/03/12 12:33 PM
Apples and oranges again. It is a parents responsibility to raise that child and "teach" it right from wrong. Some people use spanking, some use others. But nevertheless it is to teach the child. It is not a husband's job to teach/raise his wife, so the two again have absolutely nothin to do with one another. do unto others as you want them to do unto you..."The Golden Rule" therefore if you beat a child as to teach him...you want the same to be inflicted upon you by your spouse to teach you or can we say "Hypocrite"? It is not your job to teach your spouse anything. It is not your job to teach anyone but your children anything. And no one's beating any child. Beating and discipline are two different things. Cowboy...do "the golden rule" apply to parents or not?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 07/03/12 12:35 PM
perhaps she did , perhaps something else was effective for Jesus, perhaps Jesus didnt need it raising children is not the one size fits all process so many (usually childless) people think it is,,,, that's the same as saying that those that have never been married don't understand why a husband should beat his wife or vise versa why would spanking children be any different than spousal abuse because a hug is different than a squeeze because grounding is different than kidnapping because CONTEXT has alot to do with the relevance of our actions and inactions,,, so MsHarmony...do you believe that it's ok to inflict pain on your spouse to teach them nope, I dont 'teach' my spouse, I am also not legally responsible for them or their actions except sometimes financially,,, so MsHarmony... would give your spouse a beatdown if they max out the credit cards

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 07/03/12 12:37 PM
perhaps she did , perhaps something else was effective for Jesus, perhaps Jesus didnt need it raising children is not the one size fits all process so many (usually childless) people think it is,,,, that's the same as saying that those that have never been married don't understand why a husband should beat his wife or vise versa why would spanking children be any different than spousal abuse because a hug is different than a squeeze because grounding is different than kidnapping because CONTEXT has alot to do with the relevance of our actions and inactions,,, so MsHarmony...do you believe that it's ok to inflict pain on your spouse to teach them nope, I dont 'teach' my spouse, I am also not legally responsible for them or their actions except sometimes financially,,, so MsHarmony... would give your spouse a beatdown if they max out the credit cards She already answered that. MsHarmony said, nope, I dont 'teach' my spouse,

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 07/03/12 12:38 PM
Apples and oranges again. It is a parents responsibility to raise that child and "teach" it right from wrong. Some people use spanking, some use others. But nevertheless it is to teach the child. It is not a husband's job to teach/raise his wife, so the two again have absolutely nothin to do with one another. do unto others as you want them to do unto you..."The Golden Rule" therefore if you beat a child as to teach him...you want the same to be inflicted upon you by your spouse to teach you or can we say "Hypocrite"? It is not your job to teach your spouse anything. It is not your job to teach anyone but your children anything. And no one's beating any child. Beating and discipline are two different things. Cowboy...do "the golden rule" apply to parents or not? No, do the children have the right to "ground" their parents when they make a mistake? Do they have a right to smack their mouths when the parent says a foul word? No.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 07/03/12 12:50 PM
She already answered that. Cowboy...MsHarmony claimed that she was responsible for her spouse financially since she is responsible then she should give him a beatdown when he max out the credit cards...wouldn't she do the same to her child

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 07/03/12 12:53 PM
Apples and oranges again. It is a parents responsibility to raise that child and "teach" it right from wrong. Some people use spanking, some use others. But nevertheless it is to teach the child. It is not a husband's job to teach/raise his wife, so the two again have absolutely nothin to do with one another. do unto others as you want them to do unto you..."The Golden Rule" therefore if you beat a child as to teach him...you want the same to be inflicted upon you by your spouse to teach you or can we say "Hypocrite"? It is not your job to teach your spouse anything. It is not your job to teach anyone but your children anything. And no one's beating any child. Beating and discipline are two different things. Cowboy...do "the golden rule" apply to parents or not? No, do the children have the right to "ground" their parents when they make a mistake? Do they have a right to smack their mouths when the parent says a foul word? No. but according to the golden rule the spouse has the right to give the child spanking spouse a beatdown as a way to teach them

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 07/03/12 12:54 PM
She already answered that. Cowboy...MsHarmony claimed that she was responsible for her spouse financially since she is responsible then she should give him a beatdown when he max out the credit cards...wouldn't she do the same to her child Msharmony said, except sometimes financially,,, She said sometimes. And this is because of the law, when two are married their bills are usually tied with one another. His bills are hers, her bills are his, ect. She is responsible SOMETIMES for her spouse, because they are in fact her bills as well. But nevertheless her spouse is not her child. Therefor she has no obligation, no authority to, no reason to punish her spouse for his actions.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 07/03/12 12:55 PM
Apples and oranges again. It is a parents responsibility to raise that child and "teach" it right from wrong. Some people use spanking, some use others. But nevertheless it is to teach the child. It is not a husband's job to teach/raise his wife, so the two again have absolutely nothin to do with one another. do unto others as you want them to do unto you..."The Golden Rule" therefore if you beat a child as to teach him...you want the same to be inflicted upon you by your spouse to teach you or can we say "Hypocrite"? It is not your job to teach your spouse anything. It is not your job to teach anyone but your children anything. And no one's beating any child. Beating and discipline are two different things. Cowboy...do "the golden rule" apply to parents or not? No, do the children have the right to "ground" their parents when they make a mistake? Do they have a right to smack their mouths when the parent says a foul word? No. but according to the golden rule the spouse has the right to give the child spanking spouse a beatdown as a way to teach them No, it again it is not the spouses responsibility or obligation to teach the other spouse anything. It is not their job, they are a full grown adult accountable for their own actions.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 07/03/12 01:06 PM
She said sometimes. And this is because of the law, when two are married their bills are usually tied with one another. His bills are hers, her bills are his, ect. She is responsible SOMETIMES for her spouse, because they are in fact her bills as well. But nevertheless her spouse is not her child. Therefor she has no obligation, no authority to, no reason to punish her spouse for his actions. then MsHarmony can "sometimes" give her spouse a beatdown if they over spend...according to MsHarmony pain is the way she learn to conform

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 07/03/12 01:09 PM
She said sometimes. And this is because of the law, when two are married their bills are usually tied with one another. His bills are hers, her bills are his, ect. She is responsible SOMETIMES for her spouse, because they are in fact her bills as well. But nevertheless her spouse is not her child. Therefor she has no obligation, no authority to, no reason to punish her spouse for his actions. then MsHarmony can "sometimes" give her spouse a beatdown if they over spend...according to MsHarmony pain is the way she learn to conform Who's talking about beating anyone? And no she still doesn't have the right to punish anyone for anything. Her spouse is not her child, she is not responsible for her husband. She's responsible sometimes for the results of something her husband may have done, but she is not responsible for her husband in specifics.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 07/03/12 01:10 PM
No, it again it is not the spouses responsibility or obligation to teach the other spouse anything. It is not their job, they are a full grown adult accountable for their own actions. once married they become one ..making one responsible for the other..

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 07/03/12 01:13 PM
No, it again it is not the spouses responsibility or obligation to teach the other spouse anything. It is not their job, they are a full grown adult accountable for their own actions. once married they become one ..making one responsible for the other.. No, they are still responsible for their own actions and are not guilty for another's actions.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 07/03/12 01:13 PM
Who's talking about beating anyone? didn't Creflo beat his daughter.....isn't beating what this thread is about.....haven't the majority of the post been about beating...dude try and stay focus

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 07/03/12 01:15 PM
Who's talking about beating anyone? And no she still doesn't have the right to punish anyone for anything. Her spouse is not her child, she is not responsible for her husband. She's responsible sometimes for the results of something her husband may have done, but she is not responsible for her husband in specifics. didn't Creflo beat his daughter.....isn't beating what this thread is about.....haven't the majority of the post been about beating...dude try and stay focus Then why are you talking about her beating her husband? Please do stay on topic.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Tue 07/03/12 01:18 PM
No, it again it is not the spouses responsibility or obligation to teach the other spouse anything. It is not their job, they are a full grown adult accountable for their own actions. once married they become one ..making one responsible for the other.. No, they are still responsible for their own actions and are not guilty for another's actions. try and use that defense with the credit card company ....

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Tue 07/03/12 01:23 PM
No, it again it is not the spouses responsibility or obligation to teach the other spouse anything. It is not their job, they are a full grown adult accountable for their own actions. once married they become one ..making one responsible for the other.. No, they are still responsible for their own actions and are not guilty for another's actions. try and use that defense with the credit card company .... I don't give a flying monkey butt what credit card companies think lol. Please stay on topic and quit comparing apples and oranges. Credit card companies have absolutely nothing to do with "religious" things. Therefore is irrelevant.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Tue 07/03/12 01:24 PM
perhaps she did , perhaps something else was effective for Jesus, perhaps Jesus didnt need it raising children is not the one size fits all process so many (usually childless) people think it is,,,, that's the same as saying that those that have never been married don't understand why a husband should beat his wife or vise versa why would spanking children be any different than spousal abuse because a hug is different than a squeeze because grounding is different than kidnapping because CONTEXT has alot to do with the relevance of our actions and inactions,,, so MsHarmony...do you believe that it's ok to inflict pain on your spouse to teach them nope, I dont 'teach' my spouse, I am also not legally responsible for them or their actions except sometimes financially,,, so MsHarmony... would give your spouse a beatdown if they max out the credit cards no, but I also do not give my children a 'beatdown' would you sit your spouse in a corner or take way their things,,,? I dont think you would have the authority to do so being they are at that point ADULTS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEMSELF...