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if putting me over their knee implied any 'issue' my parents had , it was that issue of deterring behaviors that result in much worse if continued into adulthood than a few minutes over someones knee MsHarmony..I'm pretty sure your parents are proud that you are keeping with their handed down tradition of resolving conflicts by striking children did you remember to send them a picture of the first time your stuck your child so that it can be placed in the family scrapbook hey look at little timmy...look at how the camera caught the light at the right angle to capture his moment of pain |
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Again, God asked no one to "kill" anyone or anything. And God would not ask me to do anything of such. We no longer are to sacrifice anything to please God, what are you talking about? Jesus done made the most gloriuos sacrifice that could possibly be given, the most pure sacrifice. Cowboy...if God asked Abraham to kill his child...then who are you to dictate what God wouldn't ask you...besides you already stated that you would "Absolutely" kill your child if God asked .... you once tried to argue that it's ok for Christians to go to the doctor instead of waiting for God to heal them ....so here's the question THE QUESTION if you heard a voice you believe was God that asked you to kill your child 1....would you go to the doctor 2....would you kill your child Ah, but God didn't ask Abraham to kill anyone. Killing is taking of one's life. You know not if his child died, death only occurs when one doesn't receive the gift of eternal life. Cowboy...you already stated that you would kill if asked ...so we are beyond that... the question was if you heard a voice that you believed was God that asked you to kill your chilld would you go to the doctor would you kill the child |
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if putting me over their knee implied any 'issue' my parents had , it was that issue of deterring behaviors that result in much worse if continued into adulthood than a few minutes over someones knee MsHarmony..I'm pretty sure your parents are proud that you are keeping with their handed down tradition of resolving conflicts by striking children did you remember to send them a picture of the first time your stuck your child so that it can be placed in the family scrapbook hey look at little timmy...look at how the camera caught the light at the right angle to capture his moment of pain how nonsensical would you also suggest parents send 'pictures' of other types of discipline like the first time they set them in a corner, or grounded them in their room? discipline is not USUALLY something people take pictures of,, the purpose is not to glorify or memorialize bad behaviors... |
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if putting me over their knee implied any 'issue' my parents had , it was that issue of deterring behaviors that result in much worse if continued into adulthood than a few minutes over someones knee MsHarmony..I'm pretty sure your parents are proud that you are keeping with their handed down tradition of resolving conflicts by striking children did you remember to send them a picture of the first time your stuck your child so that it can be placed in the family scrapbook hey look at little timmy...look at how the camera caught the light at the right angle to capture his moment of pain how nonsensical would you also suggest parents send 'pictures' of other types of discipline like the first time they set them in a corner, or grounded them in their room? discipline is not USUALLY something people take pictures of,, the purpose is not to glorify or memorialize bad behaviors... see MsHarmony...like you stated "time out"...."grounding them"...I knew you could come up with more ways of disciplining a child instead of resolving a conflict by beating them |
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if putting me over their knee implied any 'issue' my parents had , it was that issue of deterring behaviors that result in much worse if continued into adulthood than a few minutes over someones knee MsHarmony..I'm pretty sure your parents are proud that you are keeping with their handed down tradition of resolving conflicts by striking children did you remember to send them a picture of the first time your stuck your child so that it can be placed in the family scrapbook hey look at little timmy...look at how the camera caught the light at the right angle to capture his moment of pain how nonsensical would you also suggest parents send 'pictures' of other types of discipline like the first time they set them in a corner, or grounded them in their room? discipline is not USUALLY something people take pictures of,, the purpose is not to glorify or memorialize bad behaviors... see MsHarmony...like you stated "time out"...."grounding them"...I knew you could come up with more ways of disciplining a child instead of resolving a conflict by beating them I have never been beaten, time outs also didnt work for me or my siblings because we actually had quite the imagination and time to ourself was never a deterrent to much of anything grounding worked for my brothers, who were very active in sports and hated to miss it did not work for me, because I wasnt into sports, and preferred using my brain and having peace and quiet to anything material ,,so, like I said, discipline works in BALANCE, and differently for every child for MILLIONS of children, spanking works, for others, time outs, or being 'grounded' |
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I have never been beaten, time outs also didnt work for me or my siblings because we actually had quite the imagination and time to ourself was never a deterrent to much of anything grounding worked for my brothers, who were very active in sports and hated to miss it did not work for me, because I wasnt into sports, and preferred using my brain and having peace and quiet to anything material ,,so, like I said, discipline works in BALANCE, and differently for every child for MILLIONS of children, spanking works, for others, time outs, or being 'grounded' so why are you advocating beating a child if you nor any of your siblings were beaten .....so what kind of child need to be beaten and at what age. ...newborn that cry to much....the terrible twos ...... |
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Edited by
msharmony
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I have never been beaten, time outs also didnt work for me or my siblings because we actually had quite the imagination and time to ourself was never a deterrent to much of anything grounding worked for my brothers, who were very active in sports and hated to miss it did not work for me, because I wasnt into sports, and preferred using my brain and having peace and quiet to anything material ,,so, like I said, discipline works in BALANCE, and differently for every child for MILLIONS of children, spanking works, for others, time outs, or being 'grounded' so why are you advocating beating a child if you nor any of your siblings were beaten .....so what kind of child need to be beaten and at what age. ...newborn that cry to much....the terrible twos ...... I have had my BEHIND BEATEN, beating behinds I condone,,, proudly,,,, but not the typical imagery that is alluded to with the word 'beating' I had my behind BEATEN when I was old enough to know and understand english and instructions and warnings I can count on one hand how many I had, and deserved every one for the importance of the lesson needed,,,,my first was at four, and was no more than five to ten whacks on my butt if that but the notion of a one size fits all world with raising children is part of the problem,,,there is no 'set age',, each child is different, their intelligence, their understanding, their relation to their parents all factor in to when it is 'appropriate' discipline |
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Again, God asked no one to "kill" anyone or anything. And God would not ask me to do anything of such. We no longer are to sacrifice anything to please God, what are you talking about? Jesus done made the most gloriuos sacrifice that could possibly be given, the most pure sacrifice. Cowboy...if God asked Abraham to kill his child...then who are you to dictate what God wouldn't ask you...besides you already stated that you would "Absolutely" kill your child if God asked .... you once tried to argue that it's ok for Christians to go to the doctor instead of waiting for God to heal them ....so here's the question THE QUESTION if you heard a voice you believe was God that asked you to kill your child 1....would you go to the doctor 2....would you kill your child Ah, but God didn't ask Abraham to kill anyone. Killing is taking of one's life. You know not if his child died, death only occurs when one doesn't receive the gift of eternal life. Cowboy...you already stated that you would kill if asked ...so we are beyond that... the question was if you heard a voice that you believed was God that asked you to kill your chilld would you go to the doctor would you kill the child Again, nobody asked anyone to kill anyone. |
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Again, nobody asked anyone to kill anyone.
Then I take it that you don't believe the stories in the Bible. |
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I have never been beaten, time outs also didnt work for me or my siblings because we actually had quite the imagination and time to ourself was never a deterrent to much of anything grounding worked for my brothers, who were very active in sports and hated to miss it did not work for me, because I wasnt into sports, and preferred using my brain and having peace and quiet to anything material ,,so, like I said, discipline works in BALANCE, and differently for every child for MILLIONS of children, spanking works, for others, time outs, or being 'grounded' so why are you advocating beating a child if you nor any of your siblings were beaten .....so what kind of child need to be beaten and at what age. ...newborn that cry to much....the terrible twos ...... I have had my BEHIND BEATEN, beating behinds I condone,,, proudly,,,, but not the typical imagery that is alluded to with the word 'beating' I had my behind BEATEN when I was old enough to know and understand english and instructions and warnings I can count on one hand how many I had, and deserved every one for the importance of the lesson needed,,,,my first was at four, and was no more than five to ten whacks on my butt if that but the notion of a one size fits all world with raising children is part of the problem,,,there is no 'set age',, each child is different, their intelligence, their understanding, their relation to their parents all factor in to when it is 'appropriate' discipline so if you had intelligence...then why couldn't you comprehend to act intelligently and mind your parents |
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Again, God asked no one to "kill" anyone or anything. And God would not ask me to do anything of such. We no longer are to sacrifice anything to please God, what are you talking about? Jesus done made the most gloriuos sacrifice that could possibly be given, the most pure sacrifice. Cowboy...if God asked Abraham to kill his child...then who are you to dictate what God wouldn't ask you...besides you already stated that you would "Absolutely" kill your child if God asked .... you once tried to argue that it's ok for Christians to go to the doctor instead of waiting for God to heal them ....so here's the question THE QUESTION if you heard a voice you believe was God that asked you to kill your child 1....would you go to the doctor 2....would you kill your child Ah, but God didn't ask Abraham to kill anyone. Killing is taking of one's life. You know not if his child died, death only occurs when one doesn't receive the gift of eternal life. Cowboy...you already stated that you would kill if asked ...so we are beyond that... the question was if you heard a voice that you believed was God that asked you to kill your chilld would you go to the doctor would you kill the child Again, nobody asked anyone to kill anyone. Cowboy...denial is a river in Eqypt ... but anyway I've conjured up another question that believers are forbidden to answer ...probably have to start a thread |
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Again, God asked no one to "kill" anyone or anything. And God would not ask me to do anything of such. We no longer are to sacrifice anything to please God, what are you talking about? Jesus done made the most gloriuos sacrifice that could possibly be given, the most pure sacrifice. Cowboy...if God asked Abraham to kill his child...then who are you to dictate what God wouldn't ask you...besides you already stated that you would "Absolutely" kill your child if God asked .... you once tried to argue that it's ok for Christians to go to the doctor instead of waiting for God to heal them ....so here's the question THE QUESTION if you heard a voice you believe was God that asked you to kill your child 1....would you go to the doctor 2....would you kill your child Ah, but God didn't ask Abraham to kill anyone. Killing is taking of one's life. You know not if his child died, death only occurs when one doesn't receive the gift of eternal life. Cowboy...you already stated that you would kill if asked ...so we are beyond that... the question was if you heard a voice that you believed was God that asked you to kill your chilld would you go to the doctor would you kill the child Again, nobody asked anyone to kill anyone. Cowboy...denial is a river in Eqypt ... but anyway I've conjured up another question that believers are forbidden to answer ...probably have to start a thread Not, denying anything. A judgement is not "killing". And God wasn't truly asking Abraham to kill his child, was only testing his obedience. God didn't truly want him to sacrifice the child, if he would have wanted that, he wouldn't have stopped it. |
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Again, God asked no one to "kill" anyone or anything. And God would not ask me to do anything of such. We no longer are to sacrifice anything to please God, what are you talking about? Jesus done made the most gloriuos sacrifice that could possibly be given, the most pure sacrifice. Cowboy...if God asked Abraham to kill his child...then who are you to dictate what God wouldn't ask you...besides you already stated that you would "Absolutely" kill your child if God asked .... you once tried to argue that it's ok for Christians to go to the doctor instead of waiting for God to heal them ....so here's the question THE QUESTION if you heard a voice you believe was God that asked you to kill your child 1....would you go to the doctor 2....would you kill your child Ah, but God didn't ask Abraham to kill anyone. Killing is taking of one's life. You know not if his child died, death only occurs when one doesn't receive the gift of eternal life. Cowboy...you already stated that you would kill if asked ...so we are beyond that... the question was if you heard a voice that you believed was God that asked you to kill your chilld would you go to the doctor would you kill the child Again, nobody asked anyone to kill anyone. Cowboy...denial is a river in Eqypt ... but anyway I've conjured up another question that believers are forbidden to answer ...probably have to start a thread Not, denying anything. A judgement is not "killing". And God wasn't truly asking Abraham to kill his child, was only testing his obedience. God didn't truly want him to sacrifice the child, if he would have wanted that, he wouldn't have stopped it. God didn't tell Abraham not to kill his son... an angel told Abraham not to...that angel could have been Satan but anyway no problem...as I said...I didn't expect you to answer the question ....you are forbidden to do so I'll just add it to the list of questions believers are afraid to answer |
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Edited by
msharmony
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I have never been beaten, time outs also didnt work for me or my siblings because we actually had quite the imagination and time to ourself was never a deterrent to much of anything grounding worked for my brothers, who were very active in sports and hated to miss it did not work for me, because I wasnt into sports, and preferred using my brain and having peace and quiet to anything material ,,so, like I said, discipline works in BALANCE, and differently for every child for MILLIONS of children, spanking works, for others, time outs, or being 'grounded' so why are you advocating beating a child if you nor any of your siblings were beaten .....so what kind of child need to be beaten and at what age. ...newborn that cry to much....the terrible twos ...... I have had my BEHIND BEATEN, beating behinds I condone,,, proudly,,,, but not the typical imagery that is alluded to with the word 'beating' I had my behind BEATEN when I was old enough to know and understand english and instructions and warnings I can count on one hand how many I had, and deserved every one for the importance of the lesson needed,,,,my first was at four, and was no more than five to ten whacks on my butt if that but the notion of a one size fits all world with raising children is part of the problem,,,there is no 'set age',, each child is different, their intelligence, their understanding, their relation to their parents all factor in to when it is 'appropriate' discipline so if you had intelligence...then why couldn't you comprehend to act intelligently and mind your parents HAAAA well, I suppose thats why how many spankings I recieved can be counted on one hand I learn quickly,, always have 
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Again, God asked no one to "kill" anyone or anything. And God would not ask me to do anything of such. We no longer are to sacrifice anything to please God, what are you talking about? Jesus done made the most gloriuos sacrifice that could possibly be given, the most pure sacrifice. Cowboy...if God asked Abraham to kill his child...then who are you to dictate what God wouldn't ask you...besides you already stated that you would "Absolutely" kill your child if God asked .... you once tried to argue that it's ok for Christians to go to the doctor instead of waiting for God to heal them ....so here's the question THE QUESTION if you heard a voice you believe was God that asked you to kill your child 1....would you go to the doctor 2....would you kill your child Ah, but God didn't ask Abraham to kill anyone. Killing is taking of one's life. You know not if his child died, death only occurs when one doesn't receive the gift of eternal life. Cowboy...you already stated that you would kill if asked ...so we are beyond that... the question was if you heard a voice that you believed was God that asked you to kill your chilld would you go to the doctor would you kill the child Again, nobody asked anyone to kill anyone. Cowboy...denial is a river in Eqypt ... but anyway I've conjured up another question that believers are forbidden to answer ...probably have to start a thread Not, denying anything. A judgement is not "killing". And God wasn't truly asking Abraham to kill his child, was only testing his obedience. God didn't truly want him to sacrifice the child, if he would have wanted that, he wouldn't have stopped it. God didn't tell Abraham not to kill his son... an angel told Abraham not to...that angel could have been Satan but anyway no problem...as I said...I didn't expect you to answer the question ....you are forbidden to do so I'll just add it to the list of questions believers are afraid to answer I did answer question. Show a verse(s) where it says God told Abraham to "kill" his son. |
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Again, God asked no one to "kill" anyone or anything. And God would not ask me to do anything of such. We no longer are to sacrifice anything to please God, what are you talking about? Jesus done made the most gloriuos sacrifice that could possibly be given, the most pure sacrifice. Cowboy...if God asked Abraham to kill his child...then who are you to dictate what God wouldn't ask you...besides you already stated that you would "Absolutely" kill your child if God asked .... you once tried to argue that it's ok for Christians to go to the doctor instead of waiting for God to heal them ....so here's the question THE QUESTION if you heard a voice you believe was God that asked you to kill your child 1....would you go to the doctor 2....would you kill your child Ah, but God didn't ask Abraham to kill anyone. Killing is taking of one's life. You know not if his child died, death only occurs when one doesn't receive the gift of eternal life. Cowboy...you already stated that you would kill if asked ...so we are beyond that... the question was if you heard a voice that you believed was God that asked you to kill your chilld would you go to the doctor would you kill the child Again, nobody asked anyone to kill anyone. Cowboy...denial is a river in Eqypt ... but anyway I've conjured up another question that believers are forbidden to answer ...probably have to start a thread Not, denying anything. A judgement is not "killing". And God wasn't truly asking Abraham to kill his child, was only testing his obedience. God didn't truly want him to sacrifice the child, if he would have wanted that, he wouldn't have stopped it. God didn't tell Abraham not to kill his son... an angel told Abraham not to...that angel could have been Satan but anyway no problem...as I said...I didn't expect you to answer the question ....you are forbidden to do so I'll just add it to the list of questions believers are afraid to answer I did answer question. Show a verse(s) where it says God told Abraham to "kill" his son. God tested Abraham and told him to "sacrifice" his son, but he did not tell him to "kill" his son. Two totally different things. |
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Did anyone mention this? This is a guy who predicted Jesus would return between 2003-2005 and just got arrested for beating his daughter. Matthew 23:15 There are an awful lot of self-proclaimed Christians who miss the mark. We are humans (good, bad, and ugly) before we find faith. Zealots and hypocrites exist in ALL faiths! |
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God tested Abraham and told him to "sacrifice" his son, but he did not tell him to "kill" his son. Two totally different things
Really? Are you serious??? You really actually believe that ?? A human Blood sacrifice? What kind of religion is that? A blood cult?? Its uncivilized. God does not test people or tell them to "sacrifice" (murder) their children. DEMONS MIGHT TO THAT. Or an insane delusional person might think that. But since "Abraham" never really existed, its a total myth anyway. |
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I have never been beaten, time outs also didnt work for me or my siblings because we actually had quite the imagination and time to ourself was never a deterrent to much of anything grounding worked for my brothers, who were very active in sports and hated to miss it did not work for me, because I wasnt into sports, and preferred using my brain and having peace and quiet to anything material ,,so, like I said, discipline works in BALANCE, and differently for every child for MILLIONS of children, spanking works, for others, time outs, or being 'grounded' so why are you advocating beating a child if you nor any of your siblings were beaten .....so what kind of child need to be beaten and at what age. ...newborn that cry to much....the terrible twos ...... I have had my BEHIND BEATEN, beating behinds I condone,,, proudly,,,, but not the typical imagery that is alluded to with the word 'beating' I had my behind BEATEN when I was old enough to know and understand english and instructions and warnings I can count on one hand how many I had, and deserved every one for the importance of the lesson needed,,,,my first was at four, and was no more than five to ten whacks on my butt if that but the notion of a one size fits all world with raising children is part of the problem,,,there is no 'set age',, each child is different, their intelligence, their understanding, their relation to their parents all factor in to when it is 'appropriate' discipline so if you had intelligence...then why couldn't you comprehend to act intelligently and mind your parents HAAAA well, I suppose thats why how many spankings I recieved can be counted on one hand I learn quickly,, always have
now looking back...could there have been anything your parents could have said to you instead of inflicting pain .... |
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placing a child on the altar with the intentions of killing them and the child believing they are about to be killed is clearly child abuse....do you not agree? Not after the Lord specifically told them both it was a test. Relief would then come over. And the child would understand, atleast later on why that happened and would be proud of his parent for obeying God so much. I know I would be anyways. It wouldn't be seen as child abuse in the childs eyes, as he would know the Lord was proud that he was obeying. No excuse! Just lets hope it never occurred! |
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