Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
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Sun 07/08/12 10:53 AM


Jesus had no fear, what are you talking about? He did teach it to the masses, heck he's still teaching people all around the world every day. There was only one person that betrays Jesus, again what are you talking about?


Jesus always ran when he was about to get stone ...the teachings of Jesus was not about him claiming to be God...the teachings were to show the way to God



When did Jesus run? Give one verse supported incident of Jesus running from anything.

His teachings were how to achieve eternal life through him, our God. Thus we have things said as such "Do not tempt the LORD "Thy" God".

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Sun 07/08/12 10:55 AM



How is that a sign of hate? Heck my dad has even specifically said not to refer to him as "father".


that sounds like your Father hates you more than you hate him

can I assume that your Father is also a Christian


What in the world are you talking about? How does that even display any form of hate from my dad to me? Don't babble on about anything else like you usually do, just answer that question.


a male birth parent "specifically" telling their child not refer to them as being their Father clearly is a sign of Hate or Shame ..it's clearly not a sign of Love ..unless you can explain otherwise

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Sun 07/08/12 10:58 AM




How is that a sign of hate? Heck my dad has even specifically said not to refer to him as "father".


that sounds like your Father hates you more than you hate him

can I assume that your Father is also a Christian


What in the world are you talking about? How does that even display any form of hate from my dad to me? Don't babble on about anything else like you usually do, just answer that question.


a male birth parent "specifically" telling their child not refer to them as being their Father clearly is a sign of Hate or Shame ..it's clearly not a sign of Love ..unless you can explain otherwise



No, it would be hate if he didn't associate with me, if he told me not to call him dad or my parent. There is only one father over all. He is my dad and will always be respected as such. So again I ask, where is the hate? And how is it hate?

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Sun 07/08/12 11:02 AM

When did Jesus run? Give one verse supported incident of Jesus running from anything.


Cowboy...you're making the point again as to why Christians should be taught religion in public school

John 8:59
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the middle of them, and so passed by.


afraid of a stone being thrown at the temple on the side of his head is why Jesus would never preached to the masses that he was God

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Sun 07/08/12 11:05 AM





How is that a sign of hate? Heck my dad has even specifically said not to refer to him as "father".


that sounds like your Father hates you more than you hate him

can I assume that your Father is also a Christian


What in the world are you talking about? How does that even display any form of hate from my dad to me? Don't babble on about anything else like you usually do, just answer that question.


a male birth parent "specifically" telling their child not refer to them as being their Father clearly is a sign of Hate or Shame ..it's clearly not a sign of Love ..unless you can explain otherwise



No, it would be hate if he didn't associate with me, if he told me not to call him dad or my parent. There is only one father over all. He is my dad and will always be respected as such. So again I ask, where is the hate? And how is it hate?


telling you to specifically not call him Father is a sign of hate....you still haven't explain what would cause your Father to specifically tell you to never call him Father

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Sun 07/08/12 11:10 AM


When did Jesus run? Give one verse supported incident of Jesus running from anything.


Cowboy...you're making the point again as to why Christians should be taught religion in public school

John 8:59
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the middle of them, and so passed by.


afraid of a stone being thrown at the temple on the side of his head is why Jesus would never preached to the masses that he was God


It did not stop him, now did it? He just left the incident. He didn't hide, he didn't cower away, or anything. He just left that unfruitful incident. Again, you can't take verses out of context. Read further on.

We have that verse -
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Then the very next verses is -
1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.

2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

So obviously he wasn't "running" away or moving very fast as the disciples were still with him and they were conversing.

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Sun 07/08/12 11:12 AM






How is that a sign of hate? Heck my dad has even specifically said not to refer to him as "father".


that sounds like your Father hates you more than you hate him

can I assume that your Father is also a Christian


What in the world are you talking about? How does that even display any form of hate from my dad to me? Don't babble on about anything else like you usually do, just answer that question.


a male birth parent "specifically" telling their child not refer to them as being their Father clearly is a sign of Hate or Shame ..it's clearly not a sign of Love ..unless you can explain otherwise



No, it would be hate if he didn't associate with me, if he told me not to call him dad or my parent. There is only one father over all. He is my dad and will always be respected as such. So again I ask, where is the hate? And how is it hate?


telling you to specifically not call him Father is a sign of hate....you still haven't explain what would cause your Father to specifically tell you to never call him Father


My father hasn't told me not to call him father. My dad has. Explain how it is hate. He just doesn't wish to take the title of "father". That does not mean he doesn't want to be known as my "dad".

Now, explain how that is hate.

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Sun 07/08/12 11:19 AM

It did not stop him, now did it? He just left the incident. He didn't hide, he didn't cower away, or anything.


sorry Cowboy but according to John Jesus hid himself

John 59
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

telling people that you are God and then running and hiding because you are afraid of getting hit with rocks does not present positive proof that you are a God

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Sun 07/08/12 11:22 AM


It did not stop him, now did it? He just left the incident. He didn't hide, he didn't cower away, or anything.


sorry Cowboy but according to John Jesus hid himself

John 59
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

telling people that you are God and then running and hiding because you are afraid of getting hit with rocks does not present positive proof that you are a God


He did not run nor hide. DO NOT edit the posts funches. Come on, have a civil discussion and not just try to stir things up.

We have that verse -
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Then the very next verses is -
1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.

2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

So obviously he wasn't "running" away or moving very fast as the disciples were still with him and they were conversing.

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Sun 07/08/12 11:23 AM







How is that a sign of hate? Heck my dad has even specifically said not to refer to him as "father".


that sounds like your Father hates you more than you hate him

can I assume that your Father is also a Christian


What in the world are you talking about? How does that even display any form of hate from my dad to me? Don't babble on about anything else like you usually do, just answer that question.


a male birth parent "specifically" telling their child not refer to them as being their Father clearly is a sign of Hate or Shame ..it's clearly not a sign of Love ..unless you can explain otherwise



No, it would be hate if he didn't associate with me, if he told me not to call him dad or my parent. There is only one father over all. He is my dad and will always be respected as such. So again I ask, where is the hate? And how is it hate?


telling you to specifically not call him Father is a sign of hate....you still haven't explain what would cause your Father to specifically tell you to never call him Father


My father hasn't told me not to call him father. My dad has. Explain how it is hate. He just doesn't wish to take the title of "father". That does not mean he doesn't want to be known as my "dad".

Now, explain how that is hate.


Cowboy..you still have yet to explain why your male birth parent specifically told you not to call him Father if it is not out of hate or shame

THE SCENERIO
hi Father
Cowboy don't ever call me Father
but why?

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Sun 07/08/12 11:25 AM



It did not stop him, now did it? He just left the incident. He didn't hide, he didn't cower away, or anything.


sorry Cowboy but according to John Jesus hid himself

John 59
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

telling people that you are God and then running and hiding because you are afraid of getting hit with rocks does not present positive proof that you are a God


He did not run nor hide. DO NOT edit the posts funches. Come on, have a civil discussion and not just try to stir things up.

We have that verse -
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Then the very next verses is -
1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.

2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

So obviously he wasn't "running" away or moving very fast as the disciples were still with him and they were conversing.


Cowboy the passage states that Jesus hid himself....and left out of the room quick enough before a stone could hit him...that would imply running

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Sun 07/08/12 11:27 AM




It did not stop him, now did it? He just left the incident. He didn't hide, he didn't cower away, or anything.


sorry Cowboy but according to John Jesus hid himself

John 59
Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

telling people that you are God and then running and hiding because you are afraid of getting hit with rocks does not present positive proof that you are a God


He did not run nor hide. DO NOT edit the posts funches. Come on, have a civil discussion and not just try to stir things up.

We have that verse -
59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Then the very next verses is -
1 And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.

2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

So obviously he wasn't "running" away or moving very fast as the disciples were still with him and they were conversing.


Cowboy the passage states that Jesus hid himself....and left out of the room quick enough before a stone could hit him...that would imply running


There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.

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Sun 07/08/12 11:29 AM








How is that a sign of hate? Heck my dad has even specifically said not to refer to him as "father".


that sounds like your Father hates you more than you hate him

can I assume that your Father is also a Christian


What in the world are you talking about? How does that even display any form of hate from my dad to me? Don't babble on about anything else like you usually do, just answer that question.


a male birth parent "specifically" telling their child not refer to them as being their Father clearly is a sign of Hate or Shame ..it's clearly not a sign of Love ..unless you can explain otherwise



No, it would be hate if he didn't associate with me, if he told me not to call him dad or my parent. There is only one father over all. He is my dad and will always be respected as such. So again I ask, where is the hate? And how is it hate?


telling you to specifically not call him Father is a sign of hate....you still haven't explain what would cause your Father to specifically tell you to never call him Father


My father hasn't told me not to call him father. My dad has. Explain how it is hate. He just doesn't wish to take the title of "father". That does not mean he doesn't want to be known as my "dad".

Now, explain how that is hate.


Cowboy..you still have yet to explain why your male birth parent specifically told you not to call him Father if it is not out of hate or shame

THE SCENERIO
hi Father
Cowboy don't ever call me Father
but why?



I have already told you, many times now. There is but one Father which art in Heaven. He is the father of all. Therefore my dad couldn't possibly be a "father".

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Sun 07/08/12 11:34 AM

There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God

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Sun 07/08/12 11:39 AM


There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God


Once again, context funches, context. Jesus humbled himself and took on the form of a servant. He was of flesh when he was walking this Earth at that moment. He had much work still to do, that would not have gotten done if he would have been killed then. But there is still no mention or close reference of him "running" or leaving "quickly" or anything of such.

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Sun 07/08/12 11:41 AM

I have already told you, many times now. There is but one Father which art in Heaven. He is the father of all. Therefore my dad couldn't possibly be a "father".


nope..that is you drinking the kool-aid and quoting from the bible....I've asked why did your male birth parent specifically tell you to never refer to him as Father .....you will not be able to get a reason that doesn't imply that your birth parent either hate you or are ashame of you

so let's hear it ...tell a sad enough story and the Christian women might e-mail you....

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Sun 07/08/12 11:45 AM


I have already told you, many times now. There is but one Father which art in Heaven. He is the father of all. Therefore my dad couldn't possibly be a "father".


nope..that is you drinking the kool-aid and quoting from the bible....I've asked why did your male birth parent specifically tell you to never refer to him as Father .....you will not be able to get a reason that doesn't imply that your birth parent either hate you or are ashame of you

so let's hear it ...tell a sad enough story and the Christian women might e-mail you....


That is the reason my dad does not like being called "father". Not quoting from anywhere.

And again, how does that imply hatred? He loves being honored as my "dad". He is not ashamed of being my "dad". So again, how exactly is that hatred of any kind?

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Sun 07/08/12 11:46 AM



There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God


Once again, context funches, context. Jesus humbled himself and took on the form of a servant. He was of flesh when he was walking this Earth at that moment. He had much work still to do, that would not have gotten done if he would have been killed then. But there is still no mention or close reference of him "running" or leaving "quickly" or anything of such.


Cowboy the context is that Jesus "hid" then left .....he simply was afraid....

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Sun 07/08/12 11:48 AM




There is not even a mention of "quick". And don't assume anything, you are left with just speculations and not the truth.

It mentions nothing of running, or even quick walking. Heck again the disciple was with him and they were conversing with one another.


if mention that he hid...and that Jesus went through the midst of them...which is why they couldn't hit him with a stone without hitting someone else ....

Jesus hid because he was afraid of getting hit...this is not a hallmark of a God


Once again, context funches, context. Jesus humbled himself and took on the form of a servant. He was of flesh when he was walking this Earth at that moment. He had much work still to do, that would not have gotten done if he would have been killed then. But there is still no mention or close reference of him "running" or leaving "quickly" or anything of such.


Cowboy the context is that Jesus "hid" then left .....he simply was afraid....


Afraid of what?

Matthew 10:28
28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

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Sun 07/08/12 11:55 AM

That is the reason my dad does not like being called "father". Not quoting from anywhere.

And again, how does that imply hatred? He loves being honored as my "dad". He is not ashamed of being my "dad". So again, how exactly is that hatred of any kind?


so your male birth parent is a Christian?

if he is a Christian then to be a disciple he has to hate you
if he is not a Christian...then he specifically hates you