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We are already spirits Funches. You are not of this flesh. This flesh is only temporary. It is the temple of God. We are given a new body in Heaven. that new body will be a ghost body ..those in Heaven will exist as something else other than human |
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We are already spirits Funches. You are not of this flesh. This flesh is only temporary. It is the temple of God. We are given a new body in Heaven. that new body will be a ghost body ..those in Heaven will exist as something else other than human Well that's funny, cause I've never read anything about God creating a "human". I've read about God creating man and woman, but no mention of a "human". Please do enlighten us. |
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Jesus is LORD God, he is our God eg., thy God. the passage states "Lord thy God" and Lord is what Jesus called The Father...and The Father is who Jesus claimed was Lord over The Heavens and The Earth no matter how many "Lord God" word games you try to play..they keep referring back to The Father ..which show that Jesus as Lord God is false gospel Yes the Father is Jesus' lord, he is his God. Jesus is our God. That is why when it speaks of Jesus it will say the lord "thy" God. The lord YOUR God. And is why God the father is God of the Gods. Jesus said The Father was Lord over the Heavens and The Earth and you are in here trying to disputing what Jesus himself said ...playing word tricks with the Father's name like the serpent Not refuting anything. The father is Lord over Heaven and Earth. But Jesus is OUR lord, OUR God. The father is even Jesus' lord, Jesus' God. Only you are the one playing word games. if the father is Jesus's God....then the Father is Lord God over all .... Yes he is, but he sent his son to deal with us. Thus we have 1 John 4:9 King James Version (KJV) 9 In this was manifested the love of God toward us, because that God sent his only begotten Son into the world, that we might live through him. And no that doesn't make the father LORD God over all. That is why the two different titles are used, to show whom is being referred to eg,. God, LORD God. Jesus worships the Father but The Father worships no one....That makes The Father Lord God over all ...simple logic Yes he is, but in lamen's term, it's call chain of command. Jesus is charge of "us" directly, we go through him to get to the father. |
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We are already spirits Funches. You are not of this flesh. This flesh is only temporary. It is the temple of God. We are given a new body in Heaven. that new body will be a ghost body ..those in Heaven will exist as something else other than human Well that's funny, cause I've never read anything about God creating a "human". I've read about God creating man and woman, but no mention of a "human". Please do enlighten us. John 5:34 Not that I accept human testimony; but I mention it that you may be saved. Cowboy..it's sad that you don't consider yourself to be human |
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Yes he is, but in lamen's term, it's call chain of command. Jesus is charge of "us" directly, we go through him to get to the father. there is no chain of command...Jesus said that The Father was Lord over Heaven and Earth .... |
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We are already spirits Funches. You are not of this flesh. This flesh is only temporary. It is the temple of God. We are given a new body in Heaven. that new body will be a ghost body ..those in Heaven will exist as something else other than human Well that's funny, cause I've never read anything about God creating a "human". I've read about God creating man and woman, but no mention of a "human". Please do enlighten us. John 5:34 Not that I accept human testimony; but I mention it that you may be saved. Cowboy..it's sad that you don't consider yourself to be human Again, stick with an older translation. Not a translation of a translation of a translation. John 5:34 King James Version (KJV) 34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. |
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Yes he is, but in lamen's term, it's call chain of command. Jesus is charge of "us" directly, we go through him to get to the father. there is no chain of command...Jesus said that The Father was Lord over Heaven and Earth .... Yes the Father is the lord over all, he is in control over all. What's your point? It's not like we have to take sides choosing to obey either the father or Jesus, choosing who we follow first. Jesus did the will of the father and gave us the father's laws. To get to the father, we must obey Jesus his son, thus making him our God because he has authority over us. It is only through the grace of God we even get to have any form of communication with God. Sin separates us from God. Jesus came to die for your sins so that you could be united with God once and for all. And no it's not God's failure that we are separated. It is our own, we choose to sin or not. We're not preprogrammed either way to sin or not sin. We have free will, we choose to be close or be far from the father. And the only way we can get close to the father is to first be cleansed of our sins. Which comes from forgiveness through Jesus Christ. |
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POSTED BY COWBOY 1
I've never even said I only worship one or the other. POSTED BY COWBOY 1:
God the father is the only God I worship. Cowboy...do the truth even exist in you my Son? have you ever consider that you might be a pathological liar? Yeah, I worship God the father through Jesus Christ. You can't worship God the father without first going through Jesus Christ. the Jews can Nobody can, Jesus is the only way to the Father. Moses would call you a liar I don't care what Moses would say. And why would he call me a liar? What's your scriptual evidence he believed differently? The only one that matters of what they said, is Jesus. And he said the following. John 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Such a misunderstood phrase of beauty. Never says a word about worshipping Jesus. Just says that if you do as he did you find the father. Jesus is not God. There can be only one. and Funches is right. Moses would be agast at your (popular) interpretation. Moses found God to be. in a time when Jesus was not. Again, there was no time before Jesus. Jesus is our God, Jesus was Moses' God. Exodus 20:2 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. My bad... I had forgotton that you are locked in a temporal loop. If Jesus was the God of Moses why then did Moses not turn the other cheek? If Jesus was the God that breathed upon Adam why then was the sin not forgiven? Grace given is grace at the time of the gift. Without Eve Jesus would not be. Yet without God Adam would be but dust. |
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We are already spirits Funches. You are not of this flesh. This flesh is only temporary. It is the temple of God. We are given a new body in Heaven. that new body will be a ghost body ..those in Heaven will exist as something else other than human Well that's funny, cause I've never read anything about God creating a "human". I've read about God creating man and woman, but no mention of a "human". Please do enlighten us. John 5:34 Not that I accept human testimony; but I mention it that you may be saved. Cowboy..it's sad that you don't consider yourself to be human Again, stick with an older translation. Not a translation of a translation of a translation. John 5:34 King James Version (KJV) 34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. ok if we are to only use the older translations of the KJV then that would mean that all Christians hate their family as indicated in the passage below King James Version (KJV) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. sorry Cowboy...you walked right into that one ..that's what you get for always trying to be deceptive .... |
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Yes he is, but in lamen's term, it's call chain of command. Jesus is charge of "us" directly, we go through him to get to the father. there is no chain of command...Jesus said that The Father was Lord over Heaven and Earth .... Yes the Father is the lord over all, he is in control over all. What's your point? that Jesus never taught to the Masses that he was Lord God over Heaven and Earth...Jesus taught that it was The Father and that anything Jesus didn't preach to the Masses was false Gospel spread by the same disciples that in the end betrayed him |
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We are already spirits Funches. You are not of this flesh. This flesh is only temporary. It is the temple of God. We are given a new body in Heaven. that new body will be a ghost body ..those in Heaven will exist as something else other than human Well that's funny, cause I've never read anything about God creating a "human". I've read about God creating man and woman, but no mention of a "human". Please do enlighten us. John 5:34 Not that I accept human testimony; but I mention it that you may be saved. Cowboy..it's sad that you don't consider yourself to be human Again, stick with an older translation. Not a translation of a translation of a translation. John 5:34 King James Version (KJV) 34 But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved. ok if we are to only use the older translations of the KJV then that would mean that all Christians hate their family as indicated in the passage below King James Version (KJV) If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. sorry Cowboy...you walked right into that one ..that's what you get for always trying to be deceptive .... Yes, Jesus is saying to love him before anyone else. To obey him before anyone else. To place him first before anything and anyone else. |
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Yes he is, but in lamen's term, it's call chain of command. Jesus is charge of "us" directly, we go through him to get to the father. there is no chain of command...Jesus said that The Father was Lord over Heaven and Earth .... Yes the Father is the lord over all, he is in control over all. What's your point? that Jesus never taught to the Masses that he was Lord God over Heaven and Earth...Jesus taught that it was The Father and that anything Jesus didn't preach to the Masses was false Gospel spread by the same disciples that in the end betrayed him Jesus is OUR God over Heaven and Earth, OUR God Funches, OUR God. |
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POSTED BY COWBOY 1
I've never even said I only worship one or the other. POSTED BY COWBOY 1:
God the father is the only God I worship. Cowboy...do the truth even exist in you my Son? have you ever consider that you might be a pathological liar? Yeah, I worship God the father through Jesus Christ. You can't worship God the father without first going through Jesus Christ. the Jews can Nobody can, Jesus is the only way to the Father. Moses would call you a liar I don't care what Moses would say. And why would he call me a liar? What's your scriptual evidence he believed differently? The only one that matters of what they said, is Jesus. And he said the following. John 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Such a misunderstood phrase of beauty. Never says a word about worshipping Jesus. Just says that if you do as he did you find the father. Jesus is not God. There can be only one. and Funches is right. Moses would be agast at your (popular) interpretation. Moses found God to be. in a time when Jesus was not. Again, there was no time before Jesus. Jesus is our God, Jesus was Moses' God. Exodus 20:2 2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. My bad... I had forgotton that you are locked in a temporal loop. If Jesus was the God of Moses why then did Moses not turn the other cheek? If Jesus was the God that breathed upon Adam why then was the sin not forgiven? Grace given is grace at the time of the gift. Without Eve Jesus would not be. Yet without God Adam would be but dust. If Jesus was the God of Moses why then did Moses not turn the other cheek? In the time of Moses, they were under a different covenant. It was an eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth in the covenant Moses was under. If Jesus was the God that breathed upon Adam why then was the sin not forgiven? Who's to say it wasn't forgiven? Do you know if Adam is in Heaven to this day? Without Eve Jesus would not be. Incorrect, without Jesus Eve would not be. |
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Yes, Jesus is saying to love him before anyone else. To obey him before anyone else. To place him first before anything and anyone else. sorry Cowboy...the passage is clear...Jesus said nothing about loving him or obeying him..he is saying that you have to hate yourself and your family to be his disciple.... even you claim that you don't acknowledge your male birth parent as being your Father ...this is a sign of hate the same as Jesus never referred to Mary as Mother ...hate |
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Yes, Jesus is saying to love him before anyone else. To obey him before anyone else. To place him first before anything and anyone else. sorry Cowboy...the passage is clear...Jesus said nothing about loving him or obeying him..he is saying that you have to hate yourself and your family to be his disciple.... even you claim that you don't acknowledge your male birth parent as being your Father ...this is a sign of hate the same as Jesus never referred to Mary as Mother ...hate Luke 14 26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. 27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. Jesus was speaking metaphorically, in a parable form of way. Because if taken for exact words, only people that were crucified would be the one's in Heaven. Which would then make any to most of all other verses moot. CONTEXT Funches, CONTEXT. Jesus was plainly saying to place him first before any one and everyone. And Jesus did refer to Marry as his mother. He specifically said he was her son, so with him being her son, that would automatically make her his mother. even you claim that you don't acknowledge your male birth parent as being your Father ...this is a sign of hate How is that a sign of hate? Heck my dad has even specifically said not to refer to him as "father". |
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Jesus is OUR God over Heaven and Earth, OUR God Funches, OUR God. Jesus would have never preached such things to the masses out of fear of being stoned ....all you and the disciples are doing is giving "just cause" as to why Jesus should have been crucified the disciples being ashame of their betrayal against Jesus would have reason to quote Jesus saying blasphemous things to justify why they betrayed jesus |
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Edited by
funches
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Sun 07/08/12 10:47 AM
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How is that a sign of hate? Heck my dad has even specifically said not to refer to him as "father". that sounds like your Father hates you more than you hate him can I assume that your Father is also a Christian |
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Edited by
CowboyGH
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Sun 07/08/12 10:51 AM
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Jesus is OUR God over Heaven and Earth, OUR God Funches, OUR God. Jesus would have never preached such things to the masses out of fear of being stoned ....all you and the disciples are doing is giving "just cause" as to why Jesus should have been crucified the disciples being ashame of their betrayal against Jesus would have reason to quote Jesus saying blasphemous things to justify why they betrayed jesus Jesus had no fear, what are you talking about? He did teach it to the masses, heck he's still teaching people all around the world every day. There was only one person that betrayed Jesus, again what are you talking about? |
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How is that a sign of hate? Heck my dad has even specifically said not to refer to him as "father". that sounds like your Father hates you more than you hate him can I assume that your Father is also a Christian What in the world are you talking about? How does that even display any form of hate from my dad to me? Don't babble on about anything else like you usually do, just answer that question. |
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Jesus had no fear, what are you talking about? He did teach it to the masses, heck he's still teaching people all around the world every day. There was only one person that betrays Jesus, again what are you talking about? Jesus always ran when he was about to get stone ...the teachings of Jesus was not about him claiming to be God...the teachings were to show the way to God |
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