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Topic: 50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus
RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sun 06/17/12 01:43 PM Edited by RKISIT on Sun 06/17/12 01:53 PM
No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. there was pictures and films taken of the events it's just not in a book.the only proof you have is a book funny thing is even writers that where around when jesus was around never mentioned him.The writers that did write about him that aren't in the bible were stories of heresay from people who weren't even around when Jesus was.Most of the people that were around when supposively jesus was were already dead.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sun 06/17/12 01:52 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 06/17/12 02:42 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 06/17/12 02:45 PM Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 06/17/12 02:47 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sun 06/17/12 02:48 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? well it's obvious cause christianity and islam followed after the old testament.Someone wanted to start their own religion.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 06/17/12 02:53 PM Edited by CowboyGH on Sun 06/17/12 02:58 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included. well it's obvious cause christianity and islam followed after the old testament.Someone wanted to start their own religion. Why would someone start their own religion? What would be the point? There would be nothing to gain or anything, so why would someone go through such a huge extent to make their own religion? *ps, I fixed your post, if you're going to quote something I said, include it all. If you only wish to respond to a part of it do a quote at the beginning of what you're quoting and a /quote at the end with the words /quote and quote inside of [ ]

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Sun 06/17/12 03:03 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included. well it's obvious cause christianity and islam followed after the old testament.Someone wanted to start their own religion. Why would someone start their own religion? What would be the point? There would be nothing to gain or anything, so why would someone go through such a huge extent to make their own religion? *ps, I fixed your post, if you're going to quote something I said, include it all. If you only wish to respond to a part of it do a quote at the beginning of what you're quoting and a /quote at the end with the words /quote and quote inside of [ ] Whatever pig you're lucky i'm even responding to someone who would sacrifice their child for a voice in his head.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 06/17/12 03:03 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included. well it's obvious cause christianity and islam followed after the old testament.Someone wanted to start their own religion. Why would someone start their own religion? What would be the point? There would be nothing to gain or anything, so why would someone go through such a huge extent to make their own religion? *ps, I fixed your post, if you're going to quote something I said, include it all. If you only wish to respond to a part of it do a quote at the beginning of what you're quoting and a /quote at the end with the words /quote and quote inside of [ ] The only possibility of Christianity and islamic having anything to do with one another. Is that islamic people did not believe Jesus to be the promised messiah. I know that's how it went with one of those beliefs, doen't remember if it was specifically islamic. But they are still waiting for their promissed messiah, because they do not believe Jesus was that.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 06/17/12 03:06 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included. well it's obvious cause christianity and islam followed after the old testament.Someone wanted to start their own religion. Why would someone start their own religion? What would be the point? There would be nothing to gain or anything, so why would someone go through such a huge extent to make their own religion? *ps, I fixed your post, if you're going to quote something I said, include it all. If you only wish to respond to a part of it do a quote at the beginning of what you're quoting and a /quote at the end with the words /quote and quote inside of [ ] Whatever pig you're lucky i'm even responding to someone who would sacrifice their child for a voice in his head. lol, no need to go to name calling man. The only thing I'm lucky about is that Jesus Christ bored the cross for me, he tasted death so I could have eternal life. And nobody said anything about a "voice in their head", what are you talking about?

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Sun 06/17/12 03:09 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included. well it's obvious cause christianity and islam followed after the old testament.Someone wanted to start their own religion. Why would someone start their own religion? What would be the point? There would be nothing to gain or anything, so why would someone go through such a huge extent to make their own religion? *ps, I fixed your post, if you're going to quote something I said, include it all. If you only wish to respond to a part of it do a quote at the beginning of what you're quoting and a /quote at the end with the words /quote and quote inside of [ ] Whatever pig you're lucky i'm even responding to someone who would sacrifice their child for a voice in his head. lol, no need to go to name calling man. The only thing I'm lucky about is that Jesus Christ bored the cross for me, he tasted death so I could have eternal life. And nobody said anything about a "voice in their head", what are you talking about? And when God "speaks" to us, it's not just a "voice in the head". Matthew 3:17 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 06/18/12 05:18 AM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included. well it's obvious cause christianity and islam followed after the old testament.Someone wanted to start their own religion. Why would someone start their own religion? What would be the point? There would be nothing to gain or anything, so why would someone go through such a huge extent to make their own religion? *ps, I fixed your post, if you're going to quote something I said, include it all. If you only wish to respond to a part of it do a quote at the beginning of what you're quoting and a /quote at the end with the words /quote and quote inside of [ ] Whatever pig you're lucky i'm even responding to someone who would sacrifice their child for a voice in his head. lol, no need to go to name calling man. The only thing I'm lucky about is that Jesus Christ bored the cross for me, he tasted death so I could have eternal life. And nobody said anything about a "voice in their head", what are you talking about? And when God "speaks" to us, it's not just a "voice in the head". Matthew 3:17 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Cowboy first of all if i had to type and explain how everything went down it would take days to even briefly explain,second of all if you have faith and believe the voice is God then it doesn't 100% mean it's God.So if you sacrifice your child cause of that voice in your head you assume to be God then you're rolling the dice cause believing isn't 100% fact.Then when you're sitting in prison you'll have plenty of time to think about what you did and if that voice was God.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 06/18/12 07:04 AM
No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. there was pictures and films taken of the events it's just not in a book.the only proof you have is a book funny thing is even writers that where around when jesus was around never mentioned him.The writers that did write about him that aren't in the bible were stories of heresay from people who weren't even around when Jesus was.Most of the people that were around when supposively jesus was were already dead. photos and films are not even absolute proof of a thing, they can be faked and anyone who chooses to not believe in something can choose to believe such evidence as likewise not proving anything,,,

RKISIT Joined Tue 01/08/08 Posts: 16721	Mon 06/18/12 07:08 AM Edited by RKISIT on Mon 06/18/12 07:11 AM
No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. there was pictures and films taken of the events it's just not in a book.the only proof you have is a book funny thing is even writers that where around when jesus was around never mentioned him.The writers that did write about him that aren't in the bible were stories of heresay from people who weren't even around when Jesus was.Most of the people that were around when supposively jesus was were already dead. photos and films are not even absolute proof of a thing, they can be faked and anyone who chooses to not believe in something can choose to believe such evidence as likewise not proving anything,,, So all the videos of Hitler were fake and the photos and films of WW2 were all edited and WW2 never happened?I understand your point but theres alot of events that did happen that noone can prove false.

msharmony Joined Mon 08/31/09 Posts: 61041	Mon 06/18/12 07:13 AM
No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. there was pictures and films taken of the events it's just not in a book.the only proof you have is a book funny thing is even writers that where around when jesus was around never mentioned him.The writers that did write about him that aren't in the bible were stories of heresay from people who weren't even around when Jesus was.Most of the people that were around when supposively jesus was were already dead. photos and films are not even absolute proof of a thing, they can be faked and anyone who chooses to not believe in something can choose to believe such evidence as likewise not proving anything,,, So all the videos of Hitler were fake and the photos and films of WW2 were all edited and WW2 never happened? I was actually referring to the post above regarding going to space,,,, if we could not find anyone or more than a dozen who had witnessed the events with Hitler or the Wars,, that may be much harder to 'prove' as well, because movies can be created from fiction too,,, but we have large numbers of 'witnesses' to what is also on the film or video which makes it more believable,,,

luv2roknroll Joined Sun 07/06/08 Posts: 30367	Mon 06/18/12 06:22 PM
Shut up! But they are having a serious discussion, and your being disruptive! So. Im always disruptive, its my M.O. Yeah, and you need to work on that! Why? I dont have a problem with it.

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Mon 06/18/12 08:28 PM
the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations.Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories.All deity driven religion is like that not just christianity. the only thing i see in christianity is the same as in all the others,exaggerations Hmm, interesting. Exagerations you say? Please enlighten us with exactly how it truly went then please. Someone decided they wanted to start their own religion based off of the old testament and mixed it with Greek pagan stories Exactly who wakes up one morning and decides they want to start their own religion? And goes to the extent of writing as much as we have for "Christianity". The bible itself, believe it or not, is less then half of the scriptures we have in total about Jesus and the history therein. Don't recall the exact estimation, but the book itself would be in the 100's of pounds if all the scriptures were included. well it's obvious cause christianity and islam followed after the old testament.Someone wanted to start their own religion. Why would someone start their own religion? What would be the point? There would be nothing to gain or anything, so why would someone go through such a huge extent to make their own religion? *ps, I fixed your post, if you're going to quote something I said, include it all. If you only wish to respond to a part of it do a quote at the beginning of what you're quoting and a /quote at the end with the words /quote and quote inside of [ ] Simply look at history. Then figure out what you would have done if you were God. Christ brought a wonderful message. Then the church came along a attempted to use it to subjedgate the world. God raised a prophet to stop that church and so sprang forth Islam... Now portions of that church has twisted THAT message in an attemt to subjudgate the world... If history follows past instance. Another prophet should be due in any day now. (unless they are here already).

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 07/02/12 07:19 AM
No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. now you're preaching against yourself...because why would I want to try and have a personal relationship with someone that I can't proved landed on the moon or been in space ...that would be like ...er...INSANE? which is why the same insanity would apply to those that are trying to have a personal relationship with a character that they can't prove exist beyond the paper it's written on

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 07/02/12 07:37 AM
No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. there was pictures and films taken of the events it's just not in a book.the only proof you have is a book funny thing is even writers that where around when jesus was around never mentioned him.The writers that did write about him that aren't in the bible were stories of heresay from people who weren't even around when Jesus was.Most of the people that were around when supposively jesus was were already dead. photos and films are not even absolute proof of a thing, they can be faked and anyone who chooses to not believe in something can choose to believe such evidence as likewise not proving anything,,, So all the videos of Hitler were fake and the photos and films of WW2 were all edited and WW2 never happened? I was actually referring to the post above regarding going to space,,,, if we could not find anyone or more than a dozen who had witnessed the events with Hitler or the Wars,, that may be much harder to 'prove' as well, because movies can be created from fiction too,,, but we have large numbers of 'witnesses' to what is also on the film or video which makes it more believable,,, Hitler was a human .....how much proof do you need to believe that humans exist ...... Hilter took parts in events like wars ...how much proof do you require to believe that human participate in wars this is why what is written in the history books are not the same as what is in scripture due to the fact that humans do things that humans do FOR EXAMPLE: if Hitler claimed to be the Messiah...how much proof beyond a book would you require to believe this to be true what has Hilter done that Jesus hasn't done or are prophesied to do it can even be said that Hitler and Jesus lead similar lives

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 07/02/12 08:02 AM
No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. now you're preaching against yourself...because why would I want to try and have a personal relationship with someone that I can't proved landed on the moon or been in space ...that would be like ...er...INSANE? which is why the same insanity would apply to those that are trying to have a personal relationship with a character that they can't prove exist beyond the paper it's written on You're comparing apples and oranges again, or well taking what one says out of context. I never said you had to have a personal relationship with someone you can't prove landed on the moon. That was no where near what I said. The man landing on the moon was PURELY of an example of something that is just "accepted" and can not be physically proven, except through video that could have been created on a computer. That was PURELY the reason behind mentioning landing on the moon. People take it as fact that it has happened, but again that is purely taken on faith. Because there is absolutely no way to physically prove it happened except through a third party video that again could have been made on a computer. It was only mentioned to show that people live on more "faith" then they believe they do. And just because people have chosen to put faith in God when they have not doesn't make them a delusional person. For again, there is no more evidence of the moon landing then there is for God.

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 07/02/12 08:07 AM
No it can't be lol. Nobodies trying to prove anything, what are you talking about? Cowboy...wanting to have a relationship with a God or anything that you can't prove exist beyond a book or beyond your mind...it's called "fantasizing"... that's what I'm talking about You don't realize what "proving" something is I guess. Heck you can't prove the world is round beyond a book, you can't prove somebody landed on the moon beyond a book, you can't even prove we've been in space beyond a book. You can't prove anything to anyone unless they are willing to accept it as true. Something can only be proven to someone by themself, nobody can prove anything to anyone. there was pictures and films taken of the events it's just not in a book.the only proof you have is a book funny thing is even writers that where around when jesus was around never mentioned him.The writers that did write about him that aren't in the bible were stories of heresay from people who weren't even around when Jesus was.Most of the people that were around when supposively jesus was were already dead. photos and films are not even absolute proof of a thing, they can be faked and anyone who chooses to not believe in something can choose to believe such evidence as likewise not proving anything,,, So all the videos of Hitler were fake and the photos and films of WW2 were all edited and WW2 never happened? I was actually referring to the post above regarding going to space,,,, if we could not find anyone or more than a dozen who had witnessed the events with Hitler or the Wars,, that may be much harder to 'prove' as well, because movies can be created from fiction too,,, but we have large numbers of 'witnesses' to what is also on the film or video which makes it more believable,,, Hitler was a human .....how much proof do you need to believe that humans exist ...... Hilter took parts in events like wars ...how much proof do you require to believe that human participate in wars this is why what is written in the history books are not the same as what is in scripture due to the fact that humans do things that humans do FOR EXAMPLE: if Hitler claimed to be the Messiah...how much proof beyond a book would you require to believe this to be true what has Hilter done that Jesus hasn't done or are prophesied to do it can even be said that Hitler and Jesus lead similar lives Hitler was a human .....how much proof do you need to believe that humans exist ...... Nobody mentioned needing proof that humans exist. But the proof that Hitler existed and did what he did is taken on faith. For again, you can't possibly know for sure he did what he did without taking your knowledge from a third party, because you were not there. So once again, just as much evidence for the existence of Hitler and what he did as we do Jesus Christ and the authenticity in it all.