Topic: Iran vs Israel:
mightymoe's photo
Mon 05/21/12 06:31 PM



A Zionist regime does not translate as "Jews."

That's just like saying that all republicans are conservative white protestants.

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your just trying to slide by the fact that iran has big issues with Israel, as well all the muslim dominated countries there...


Why would I do that? And why would I care?

I asked the question why would Iran want to destroy Israel and could not get a strait answer, so I did a google search and found out that it was just mistranslated and that Iran was just speaking out against the Zionist regime. Which means they don't like the Zionist government that is running that country. So what if they happen to be Jews?

That STILL DOES NOT TRANSLATE that all Jews are Zionists or that all Zionists are Jews.

So stop confusing the two.

End of discussion.






you can stop discussing it, but i'm not done yet. i can see through your anti Jew babble, you try to twist words around and dig your way out, but everything your saying in your posts always leads back to the same thing... no one ever said anything about it translating to Zionists or Jews, thats your imagination at work again. the fact is Iran wants to kill everyone in Israel, and you keep babbling about Zionists. call them what you want, but they still do not need to die.

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Tue 05/22/12 06:14 AM
I think Allah and "I am" should play a 18 hole golf match.If "I am" wins he can flood the entire Muslim countries and use the desert sand to create jews all over the new Jewish homeland.If Allah wins he can throw all the Jews into hell and make Israel a Palestine country.Let the Gods battle it out instead of the peon followers.

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Tue 05/22/12 06:25 AM
Edited by Optomistic69 on Tue 05/22/12 06:27 AM

Mightymoe Said





The fact is Iran wants to kill everyone in Israel




Now That Statement has to down as the most ludicrous of all time.

You have really set yourself apart with this howler.

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Mightymoes Full Quote

you can stop discussing it, but i'm not done yet. i can see through your anti Jew babble, you try to twist words around and dig your way out, but everything your saying in your posts always leads back to the same thing... no one ever said anything about it translating to Zionists or Jews, thats your imagination at work again. the fact is Iran wants to kill everyone in Israel, and you keep babbling about Zionists. call them what you want, but they still do not need to die.







Citizen_Joe's photo
Tue 05/22/12 06:29 AM
Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.

Optomistic69's photo
Tue 05/22/12 07:13 AM

Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.


mightymoe's photo
Tue 05/22/12 10:35 AM


Mightymoe Said





The fact is Iran wants to kill everyone in Israel




Now That Statement has to down as the most ludicrous of all time.

You have really set yourself apart with this howler.

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Mightymoes Full Quote

you can stop discussing it, but i'm not done yet. i can see through your anti Jew babble, you try to twist words around and dig your way out, but everything your saying in your posts always leads back to the same thing... no one ever said anything about it translating to Zionists or Jews, thats your imagination at work again. the fact is Iran wants to kill everyone in Israel, and you keep babbling about Zionists. call them what you want, but they still do not need to die.









i take it your reading skills are a little slow? Irans leaders words have been posted in here at least 4 times, and they all say the same thing... oh, but they are against israel... the enemy of my enemy is my friend? lol

mightymoe's photo
Tue 05/22/12 10:37 AM


Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....

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Tue 05/22/12 11:20 AM



Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....


Exactly.....For nearly a decade Iran has side stepped efforts by the IAEA to allow international inspectors access to sites, documents, etc, believed to be related to an Iranian nuclear weapons program....When international pressure in the form of sanctions (the latest being the European Oil Embargo) is applied they agree to allow inspections only to back out once the pressure is released...If Iran wants less sanctions or no sanctions and they have no hidden agenda what is preventing them from granting international access to inspectors?.....

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Tue 05/22/12 11:44 AM


Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.


really matters very little what you believe!
Iran's stance,the writings of it's Clerics,and the advancement of Enrichment tell a different Story!

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Tue 05/22/12 01:22 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 05/22/12 01:34 PM
Don't you think a country has a right to protect itself?

You are always screaming that battle cry for Israel.

"We just want to protect ourselves, everyone wants to kill us."

Iran can say:

"We just want to protect our country from invaders who want our resources."


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Tue 05/22/12 01:35 PM




Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....


Exactly.....For nearly a decade Iran has side stepped efforts by the IAEA to allow international inspectors access to sites, documents, etc, believed to be related to an Iranian nuclear weapons program....When international pressure in the form of sanctions (the latest being the European Oil Embargo) is applied they agree to allow inspections only to back out once the pressure is released...If Iran wants less sanctions or no sanctions and they have no hidden agenda what is preventing them from granting international access to inspectors?.....


What is preventing Israel from granting the same?



mightymoe's photo
Tue 05/22/12 02:29 PM





Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....


Exactly.....For nearly a decade Iran has side stepped efforts by the IAEA to allow international inspectors access to sites, documents, etc, believed to be related to an Iranian nuclear weapons program....When international pressure in the form of sanctions (the latest being the European Oil Embargo) is applied they agree to allow inspections only to back out once the pressure is released...If Iran wants less sanctions or no sanctions and they have no hidden agenda what is preventing them from granting international access to inspectors?.....


What is preventing Israel from granting the same?





why should they? they didn't sign they NPT, as you pointed out, so they are not bound by contract like Iran is. plus, they are not lead by a tyrannical leader that wants to destroy a nation. when have you heard Israel saying they wanna wipe someone off the map?

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Tue 05/22/12 03:07 PM





Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....


Exactly.....For nearly a decade Iran has side stepped efforts by the IAEA to allow international inspectors access to sites, documents, etc, believed to be related to an Iranian nuclear weapons program....When international pressure in the form of sanctions (the latest being the European Oil Embargo) is applied they agree to allow inspections only to back out once the pressure is released...If Iran wants less sanctions or no sanctions and they have no hidden agenda what is preventing them from granting international access to inspectors?.....


What is preventing Israel from granting the same?





Is someone asking them to?....

Bestinshow's photo
Tue 05/22/12 03:20 PM






Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....


Exactly.....For nearly a decade Iran has side stepped efforts by the IAEA to allow international inspectors access to sites, documents, etc, believed to be related to an Iranian nuclear weapons program....When international pressure in the form of sanctions (the latest being the European Oil Embargo) is applied they agree to allow inspections only to back out once the pressure is released...If Iran wants less sanctions or no sanctions and they have no hidden agenda what is preventing them from granting international access to inspectors?.....


What is preventing Israel from granting the same?





Is someone asking them to?....
Here is a recap of what they are trying to make you forget.

1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.

2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.

5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.

6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement of a planned underground (to avoid being bombed) enrichment facility. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.

7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.

9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.

10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.

11. Recently revealed documents prove not only that Israel has nuclear weapos, but actually tried to sell some to Apartheid South Africa. Who else Israel approached to sell nuclear weapons remains an unasked question.

12. In 1965, Israel stole over 200-600 pounds of weapons-grade uranium from the United States.

13. Declassified documents from the former South African regime prove not only that Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades, but has tried to sell them to other countries!

We all need to be Joe Wilson right now. We need to stand up and scream, "LIAR!" at every politician and every talking media moron that is pushing this war in Iran. And we need to keep dong it until they get the message that we will not be deceived any more.

Israel wants to send your kids off to die in Iran, and YOU are the only one that can stop them.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/IranvIsrael.php

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Tue 05/22/12 03:23 PM






Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....


Exactly.....For nearly a decade Iran has side stepped efforts by the IAEA to allow international inspectors access to sites, documents, etc, believed to be related to an Iranian nuclear weapons program....When international pressure in the form of sanctions (the latest being the European Oil Embargo) is applied they agree to allow inspections only to back out once the pressure is released...If Iran wants less sanctions or no sanctions and they have no hidden agenda what is preventing them from granting international access to inspectors?.....


What is preventing Israel from granting the same?





why should they? they didn't sign they NPT, as you pointed out, so they are not bound by contract like Iran is. plus, they are not lead by a tyrannical leader that wants to destroy a nation. when have you heard Israel saying they wanna wipe someone off the map?


Zionist leaders have stated, in public, that they would have no problem taking out the entire world rather than be beaten. (That means everyone.)



mightymoe's photo
Tue 05/22/12 03:32 PM







Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....


Exactly.....For nearly a decade Iran has side stepped efforts by the IAEA to allow international inspectors access to sites, documents, etc, believed to be related to an Iranian nuclear weapons program....When international pressure in the form of sanctions (the latest being the European Oil Embargo) is applied they agree to allow inspections only to back out once the pressure is released...If Iran wants less sanctions or no sanctions and they have no hidden agenda what is preventing them from granting international access to inspectors?.....


What is preventing Israel from granting the same?





why should they? they didn't sign they NPT, as you pointed out, so they are not bound by contract like Iran is. plus, they are not lead by a tyrannical leader that wants to destroy a nation. when have you heard Israel saying they wanna wipe someone off the map?


Zionist leaders have stated, in public, that they would have no problem taking out the entire world rather than be beaten. (That means everyone.)





who is a "zionist" leader? and i thought i asked you about israel, not whatever you think a zionist is...

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Tue 05/22/12 03:40 PM








Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....


Exactly.....For nearly a decade Iran has side stepped efforts by the IAEA to allow international inspectors access to sites, documents, etc, believed to be related to an Iranian nuclear weapons program....When international pressure in the form of sanctions (the latest being the European Oil Embargo) is applied they agree to allow inspections only to back out once the pressure is released...If Iran wants less sanctions or no sanctions and they have no hidden agenda what is preventing them from granting international access to inspectors?.....


What is preventing Israel from granting the same?





why should they? they didn't sign they NPT, as you pointed out, so they are not bound by contract like Iran is. plus, they are not lead by a tyrannical leader that wants to destroy a nation. when have you heard Israel saying they wanna wipe someone off the map?


Zionist leaders have stated, in public, that they would have no problem taking out the entire world rather than be beaten. (That means everyone.)





who is a "zionist" leader? and i thought i asked you about israel, not whatever you think a zionist is...
"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets for our air force. Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: 'Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother.' I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible. Our armed forces, however, are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us. And I can assure you that that will happen before Israel goes under.[22]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

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Tue 05/22/12 03:45 PM







Iran hasn't invaded any country in centuries. How many countries have the US invaded? Dozens.


That is True

Iran I believe is not interested in having Nuclear Weapons but they want the knowledge to build one should they be threatened and I believe that they are entitled to that.

The warmongers want a re-run of Iraq (WMD)to sustain their free Breakfast/Dinner/Lunch and lavish lifestyle at the expense of less well off people.




then why the underground enrichment sites? the treaty THEY signed says everything in the open, and iran has not complied yet.. and that is your anti Israel talking there....


Exactly.....For nearly a decade Iran has side stepped efforts by the IAEA to allow international inspectors access to sites, documents, etc, believed to be related to an Iranian nuclear weapons program....When international pressure in the form of sanctions (the latest being the European Oil Embargo) is applied they agree to allow inspections only to back out once the pressure is released...If Iran wants less sanctions or no sanctions and they have no hidden agenda what is preventing them from granting international access to inspectors?.....


What is preventing Israel from granting the same?





Is someone asking them to?....
Here is a recap of what they are trying to make you forget.

1. Last Spring, Rose Gottemoeller, an assistant secretary of state and Washington's chief nuclear arms negotiator, asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. Israel refused.

2. The United Nations passed a resolution calling on Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

3. The IAEA asked Israel to sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and to submit to inspections. Israel refused.

4. Iran's formal notification to the IAEA of the planned construction of the backup fuel-rod facility underscores that Iran is playing by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty which Iran has signed.

5. Iran allows IAEA inspections of all its facilities.

6. Contrary to face-saving claims, it appears that the US and Israel were both caught off guard by Iran's announcement of a planned underground (to avoid being bombed) enrichment facility. The reasoning is simple. Had the US or Israel announced the existence of he new facility before Iran's notified the IAEA, it would have put Iran on the defensive. As it is now, the US and Israel seem to be playing catch up, casting doubt on the veracity of Israel's claims to "know" that Iran is a nuclear threat.

7. The IAEA and all 16 United States Intelligence Agencies are unanimous in agreement that Iran is not building and does not possess nuclear weapons.

8. In 1986, Mordachai Vanunu blew the whistle and provided photographs showing Israel's clandestine nuclear weapons factory underneath the reactor at Dimona.

9. Israel made the same accusations against Iraq that it is making against Iran, leading up to Israel's bombing of the power station at Osirik. Following the invasion of 2003, international experts examined the ruins of the power station at Osirik and found no evidence of a clandestine weapons factory in the rubble.

10. The United Nations has just released the Goldstone Report, a scathing report which accuses Israel of 37 specific war crimes and crimes against humanity in Gaza earlier this year. Israel has denounced the report as "Anti-Semitic (even though Judge Goldstone is himself Jewish), and the United States will block the report from being referred to the War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague, thereby making the US Government an accessory after-the-fact.

11. Recently revealed documents prove not only that Israel has nuclear weapos, but actually tried to sell some to Apartheid South Africa. Who else Israel approached to sell nuclear weapons remains an unasked question.

12. In 1965, Israel stole over 200-600 pounds of weapons-grade uranium from the United States.

13. Declassified documents from the former South African regime prove not only that Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades, but has tried to sell them to other countries!

We all need to be Joe Wilson right now. We need to stand up and scream, "LIAR!" at every politician and every talking media moron that is pushing this war in Iran. And we need to keep dong it until they get the message that we will not be deceived any more.

Israel wants to send your kids off to die in Iran, and YOU are the only one that can stop them.
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/IranvIsrael.php


You read Al Jazeera if you like, I'll pass.....laugh


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Tue 05/22/12 03:45 PM
Thanks Bestinshow!


So

Why does Israel continue to act against its own interests?

Over the years, and especially since 2006, the Jewish state’s deadly, over-the-top military actions in response to provocations from Hamas and Hezbollah — and now from a flotilla ferrying humanitarian aid to Gaza — have backfired. And in each case, the Jewish state has grown less secure by increasing its international isolation and fueling fury much closer to home.

Four summers ago, Israel’s war in Lebanon displaced a million people in an attempt to crush Hezbollah, which grew from the settling dust and resentment of an Israeli invasion a generation earlier. But the 2006 war only made Hezbollah stronger.

http://www.salon.com/2010/06/05/never_again_israel/

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Tue 05/22/12 03:47 PM
Refusing to read news from all over the world and from different sources makes you very one-sided. Especially if the only news you read is 75% propaganda and owned and controlled by the corporation.