Topic: Valid ID
msharmony's photo
Sun 05/06/12 10:17 PM


in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has

no photo
Mon 05/07/12 07:20 AM



in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.


That is actually a very good idea... which means it won't happen.


It's an excellent idea!....I figure most illegals have several pieces of "fake" ID, convicted felons get driver's licenses, and how do election judges determine if a photo ID is valid?....It's too easy to make subtle changes in appearence so verification could be arbitrary in many instances...A finger scan would be quick, precise, and inexpensive in the long run...Perfect solution and those that take issue with it can just stay home on election day....Love it!!!:banana: :banana:

metalwing's photo
Mon 05/07/12 08:00 AM




in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.


That is actually a very good idea... which means it won't happen.


It's an excellent idea!....I figure most illegals have several pieces of "fake" ID, convicted felons get driver's licenses, and how do election judges determine if a photo ID is valid?....It's too easy to make subtle changes in appearence so verification could be arbitrary in many instances...A finger scan would be quick, precise, and inexpensive in the long run...Perfect solution and those that take issue with it can just stay home on election day....Love it!!!:banana: :banana:


Someone will say it violates their "rights".laugh

Chazster's photo
Mon 05/07/12 08:43 AM



in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.

TJN's photo
Mon 05/07/12 08:49 AM



in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has

What jobs would be lost? You still need the workers to hand out the ballots. If anything it would create jobs because you would need program and man the machines.
It wouldnt be run by the federal government. It would be your local officials who are in charge of running the elections. The database wouldn't be in a federal database, just kept in the machine itself. Doesn't need to be put in a national database.

no photo
Mon 05/07/12 09:50 AM





in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.


That is actually a very good idea... which means it won't happen.


It's an excellent idea!....I figure most illegals have several pieces of "fake" ID, convicted felons get driver's licenses, and how do election judges determine if a photo ID is valid?....It's too easy to make subtle changes in appearence so verification could be arbitrary in many instances...A finger scan would be quick, precise, and inexpensive in the long run...Perfect solution and those that take issue with it can just stay home on election day....Love it!!!:banana: :banana:


Someone will say it violates their "rights".laugh


Several would say it, but that doesn't make it wrong thinking Joe...:wink:

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/07/12 10:16 AM




in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.



yes, and one cant REGISTER to vote without documents either

but one can use their bank machine with the card they receive AFTER opening an account

and one can go to the polls with the card they receive AFTER They have registered,,,,

no photo
Mon 05/07/12 10:42 AM





in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.



yes, and one cant REGISTER to vote without documents either

but one can use their bank machine with the card they receive AFTER opening an account

and one can go to the polls with the card they receive AFTER They have registered,,,,


and for the third time what lost jobs, how many would be lost Harmony?...Also, how many jobs would be created if better voter identification methods were imposed?....

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/07/12 10:50 AM






in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.



yes, and one cant REGISTER to vote without documents either

but one can use their bank machine with the card they receive AFTER opening an account

and one can go to the polls with the card they receive AFTER They have registered,,,,


and for the third time what lost jobs, how many would be lost Harmony?...Also, how many jobs would be created if better voter identification methods were imposed?....


the jobs of the poll workers who check the voter cards, Im one of them,,,,

no photo
Mon 05/07/12 11:11 AM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Mon 05/07/12 11:11 AM







in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.





people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.



yes, and one cant REGISTER to vote without documents either

but one can use their bank machine with the card they receive AFTER opening an account

and one can go to the polls with the card they receive AFTER They have registered,,,,


and for the third time what lost jobs, how many would be lost Harmony?...Also, how many jobs would be created if better voter identification methods were imposed?....


the jobs of the poll workers who check the voter cards, Im one of them,,,,


How many "part time" jobs would that be?

TJN's photo
Mon 05/07/12 11:26 AM





in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.



yes, and one cant REGISTER to vote without documents either

but one can use their bank machine with the card they receive AFTER opening an account

and one can go to the polls with the card they receive AFTER They have registered,,,,

What if the same people who lose their ID's and SS card, and birth cirtificate also lose that card?

TJN's photo
Mon 05/07/12 11:28 AM







in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.



yes, and one cant REGISTER to vote without documents either

but one can use their bank machine with the card they receive AFTER opening an account

and one can go to the polls with the card they receive AFTER They have registered,,,,


and for the third time what lost jobs, how many would be lost Harmony?...Also, how many jobs would be created if better voter identification methods were imposed?....


the jobs of the poll workers who check the voter cards, Im one of them,,,,

I was under the impression those were volunteer jobs.
Plus they would still have their job. Once your finger print was scanned the poll worker would be there to hand you your ballot.

Chazster's photo
Mon 05/07/12 11:31 AM








in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.



yes, and one cant REGISTER to vote without documents either

but one can use their bank machine with the card they receive AFTER opening an account

and one can go to the polls with the card they receive AFTER They have registered,,,,


and for the third time what lost jobs, how many would be lost Harmony?...Also, how many jobs would be created if better voter identification methods were imposed?....


the jobs of the poll workers who check the voter cards, Im one of them,,,,

I was under the impression those were volunteer jobs.
Plus they would still have their job. Once your finger print was scanned the poll worker would be there to hand you your ballot.


Exactly. You need people making the finger print machines just like You need someone checking Ids.

Bestinshow's photo
Mon 05/07/12 12:45 PM

I doubt he would have allowed 911 to happen noway noway What, he couldn't even keep two people from crashing a political dinner party.
Makes little or no sence at all please explain.

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/07/12 01:26 PM






in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.



yes, and one cant REGISTER to vote without documents either

but one can use their bank machine with the card they receive AFTER opening an account

and one can go to the polls with the card they receive AFTER They have registered,,,,

What if the same people who lose their ID's and SS card, and birth cirtificate also lose that card?



theres a much smaller window to lose it, and it will mean they cant vote until the NEXT election when another card is sent,,,,

no photo
Mon 05/07/12 02:00 PM







in what manner?

you mean fraudulant advertising from pacs? or fraudulent registrations?


how should we keep count and record?

Fingerprints.
Have a machine at every voting place. When you register you get fingerprinted.
Then they have you on record.



people would fight it, fear of government spying and all by having their fingerprints on record

AND it would put alot of people out of jobs,,,,like automation in other industries has


How would this put people out of jobs? BTW one can't even open a bank account without a photo ID and documentation on your current address.



yes, and one cant REGISTER to vote without documents either

but one can use their bank machine with the card they receive AFTER opening an account

and one can go to the polls with the card they receive AFTER They have registered,,,,

What if the same people who lose their ID's and SS card, and birth cirtificate also lose that card?



theres a much smaller window to lose it, and it will mean they cant vote until the NEXT election when another card is sent,,,,


Curiosity question Harmony...Including training time, how many hours a year do poll workers average?...

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/07/12 02:12 PM
I personally worked one day, my son and cousins worked a few days

they hire poll workers to work at the polls but also have them work before the election doing various tasks,,,it all depends

I just worked the poll...(no perverted jokes please,,,)

no photo
Mon 05/07/12 02:20 PM
Edited by Leigh2154 on Mon 05/07/12 02:21 PM

I personally worked one day, my son and cousins worked a few days

they hire poll workers to work at the polls but also have them work before the election doing various tasks,,,it all depends

I just worked the poll...(no perverted jokes please,,,)


laugh Of course not.....So you are one of those who puts in one or two very long days per year?

msharmony's photo
Mon 05/07/12 02:24 PM
Edited by msharmony on Mon 05/07/12 02:25 PM


I personally worked one day, my son and cousins worked a few days

they hire poll workers to work at the polls but also have them work before the election doing various tasks,,,it all depends

I just worked the poll...(no perverted jokes please,,,)


laugh Of course not.....So you are one of those who puts in one or two very long days per year?


when people struggle,, those one or two days can make quite a difference,,,

not to mention, be a potential beginning to gaining membership into a 'network',,,,which is essential to making an income these days

no photo
Mon 05/07/12 02:30 PM



I personally worked one day, my son and cousins worked a few days

they hire poll workers to work at the polls but also have them work before the election doing various tasks,,,it all depends

I just worked the poll...(no perverted jokes please,,,)


laugh Of course not.....So you are one of those who puts in one or two very long days per year?


when people struggle,, those one or two days can make quite a difference,,,

not to mention, be a potential beginning to gaining membership into a 'network',,,,which is essential to making an income these days


I know, I am just trying to determine how many jobs would be lost because you made a very big case for that being a valid reason for not having finger scanners or photo ID's...Do you know the exact or even an approximate number of jobs it would eliminate?