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Explain to me how Karma balances out a situation where a man rapes, tortures and murders 20 people. What can possibly happen in his life to even those scales? Nothing. And, what did the 20 people do to deserve being raped, tortured and killed? Nothing. This is why I don't believe in Karma. I believe there are consequences for our actions. But, there is no cosmic judge making sure everything is balanced. This world is very unbalanced and there is no evidence to me that karma exists. depends on how we each see it, i guess... i agree, there is no force that rights the wrongs, making sure each of us gets what we deserve. |
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Explain to me how Karma balances out a situation where a man rapes, tortures and murders 20 people. What can possibly happen in his life to even those scales? Nothing. And, what did the 20 people do to deserve being raped, tortured and killed? Nothing. This is why I don't believe in Karma. I believe there are consequences for our actions. But, there is no cosmic judge making sure everything is balanced. This world is very unbalanced and there is no evidence to me that karma exists. I don't believe an any "karmic judge" either. It is simply the law of vibration at work. And it is very balanced. If this world and its laws did not stay in balance, we would not exist. |
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Explain to me how Karma balances out a situation where a man rapes, tortures and murders 20 people. What can possibly happen in his life to even those scales? Nothing. And, what did the 20 people do to deserve being raped, tortured and killed? Nothing. This is why I don't believe in Karma. I believe there are consequences for our actions. But, there is no cosmic judge making sure everything is balanced. This world is very unbalanced and there is no evidence to me that karma exists. depends on how we each see it, i guess... i agree, there is no force that rights the wrongs, making sure each of us gets what we deserve. Yes there is a force. It is not a conscious force like a judge, but there is a force. It does not judge whether or not someone "deserves" something or not. That is judgement. The law is just the law. It is not judgement. |
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Explain to me how Karma balances out a situation where a man rapes, tortures and murders 20 people. What can possibly happen in his life to even those scales? i come after them |
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Howr your paper going Ruth. Did we help in any way, shape or form?
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Howr your paper going Ruth. Did we help in any way, shape or form? It's going to be an article for my blog. And, yes, this discussion has clarified a lot in my mind. Thank you. 
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Explain to me how Karma balances out a situation where a man rapes, tortures and murders 20 people. What can possibly happen in his life to even those scales? i come after them 
You are one of the Lords of Karma. 
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I am working on an article on Black vs. White Magic. What do you think of when you hear these terms? What do you think these spells would consist of and do you believe there are consequences to either type of magic? White Magic: The inate ability of all humans. Known by several names including: intuition, telepathy, empathy, luck, clairvoyance, healing, reiki, wisdom, "holistic", deja vu, homeopathy, miracle, placebo effect, etc... Black Magic: The perversion of White Magic for personal gain. Usually motivated by greed or ego. My opinion of "spells" is that white magic needs none. Black magic utilises spells, incantations, idolatry, symbols, rituals, sacrifices, crystals and other "tools" as there is no confidence in one's own white magic. The consequence of white magic is probrably acceptance that some things are beyond our control. The consequence of black magic is probrably a downward spiral of doubt and confusion. Never knowing if a spell didn't work because we walked the wrong direction, spoke the wrong words, sacrificed the wrong rodent, used the wrong herbs, contaminated the ritual with impure thoughts, invoked the wrong deity... |
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White Magic: The inate ability of all humans. Known by several names including: intuition, telepathy, empathy, luck, clairvoyance, healing, reiki, wisdom, "holistic", deja vu, homeopathy, miracle, placebo effect, etc... Okay... Black Magic: The perversion of White Magic for personal gain. Usually motivated by greed or ego. But if it's an innate ability, why is it wrong to use it for personal gain? Is it wrong for a man with a green thumb to be a farmer? |
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White Magic: The inate ability of all humans. Known by several names including: intuition, telepathy, empathy, luck, clairvoyance, healing, reiki, wisdom, "holistic", deja vu, homeopathy, miracle, placebo effect, etc... Okay... Black Magic: The perversion of White Magic for personal gain. Usually motivated by greed or ego. But if it's an innate ability, why is it wrong to use it for personal gain? Is it wrong for a man with a green thumb to be a farmer? Sustenance is not personal gain, unless you hoard it and not feed others. It's the motivation... If I grow abundant amounts of food with the thought of making money off of starving people, is that good or bad? If I grow abundant amounts of food to feed the starving people and can make money off of my excess, is that good or bad? |
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You are one of the Lords of Karma.
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If I grow abundant amounts of food to feed the starving people and can make money off of my excess, is that good or bad? I didn't understand anything you wrote in your first statement so, I'll just ask about this. How much is excess? |
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Sustenance is not personal gain, unless you hoard it and not feed others. It's the motivation... If I grow abundant amounts of food with the thought of making money off of starving people, is that good or bad? If I grow abundant amounts of food to feed the starving people and can make money off of my excess, is that good or bad? Oh Lord, give me strength. Starving people have nothing to do with it, that's just clouding the issue. Is it wrong for a man with a green thumb to be a farmer? If not, then why would it be wrong for a man to use "magick" for personal gain? |
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Sustenance is not personal gain, unless you hoard it and not feed others. It's the motivation... If I grow abundant amounts of food with the thought of making money off of starving people, is that good or bad? If I grow abundant amounts of food to feed the starving people and can make money off of my excess, is that good or bad? Oh Lord, give me strength. Starving people have nothing to do with it, that's just clouding the issue. Is it wrong for a man with a green thumb to be a farmer? If not, then why would it be wrong for a man to use "magick" for personal gain? Give me a break... Motivation is EVERYTHING. Pure heart = pure magic. Are you defending "magick" as the kind I described as "black"? IE, rituals, idols, etc.? |
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Howr your paper going Ruth. Did we help in any way, shape or form? It's going to be an article for my blog. And, yes, this discussion has clarified a lot in my mind. Thank you.
Hi Ruth!!  I don't know the first thing about magic, black, white, or dark....Never heard the expression Dark Magick until you posted this thread... I googled it and found this really cool link..So, in case you haven't read it, I'm posting it for you....
http://www.squidoo.com/darkmagick Good luck with your blog!! |
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Edited by
Spidercmb
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Mon 04/30/12 12:50 PM
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Give me a break... Motivation is EVERYTHING. Pure heart = pure magic. Are you defending "magick" as the kind I described as "black"? IE, rituals, idols, etc.? The motivation is personal gain. You said using magick for personal gain makes it black magick. Are you now going to change that definition? |
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Give me a break... Motivation is EVERYTHING. Pure heart = pure magic. Are you defending "magick" as the kind I described as "black"? IE, rituals, idols, etc.? The motivation is personal gain. You said using magick for personal gain makes it black magick. Are you now going to change that definition? Explain how growing food is for "personal gain" and is not a neccesity... |
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Give me a break... Motivation is EVERYTHING. Pure heart = pure magic. Are you defending "magick" as the kind I described as "black"? IE, rituals, idols, etc.? The motivation is personal gain. You said using magick for personal gain makes it black magick. Are you now going to change that definition? Explain how growing food is for "personal gain" and is not a neccesity... Personal gain, does not mean sustenance. I should not have to waste my time explaining this. Personal gain means a profit. Should a farmer with a green thumb who grows vegetables and then sells some of those vegetables for a profit be considered to be in the wrong? |
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Give me a break... Motivation is EVERYTHING. Pure heart = pure magic. Are you defending "magick" as the kind I described as "black"? IE, rituals, idols, etc.? The motivation is personal gain. You said using magick for personal gain makes it black magick. Are you now going to change that definition? Explain how growing food is for "personal gain" and is not a neccesity... Personal gain, does not mean sustenance. I should not have to waste my time explaining this. Personal gain means a profit. Should a farmer with a green thumb who grows vegetables and then sells some of those vegetables for a profit be considered to be in the wrong? You need to work on your anger issues... |
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You need to work on your anger issues...
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