Another interesting side note. Nine nutcases outwitted the most powerful empire the world has ever known and nobody was brought to book...

Another interesting side note. Nine nutcases outwitted the most powerful empire the world has ever known and nobody was brought to book...

Was the planting of explosives possible?

NIST argues that RDX material could not have been deployed without detection.

There are at least two problems with this statement. It presupposes that the people in charge of security at WTC 7 would necessarily have been concerned to prevent explosives from being planted. AND

The NIST report fails to mention that the security firm for WTC 7, as for WTC 1 and 2 also, Called Securacom (later called Stratesec) had connections to George W. Bush..., which may have made it possible for agents of our government to place explosives in the buildings and escape "detection."

The connections to which Staelin alluded were close one: Mavin Bush, one of the president's brothers, had been one of Securacom's principals in the 1990's, during which the fireproofing upgrades to bementioned below were made, and Wirt Walker III, kone jof jthe Bush brothers' cousins, was the CEO through 2001 (and hence on 9/11 itself.)

NIST ignores facts.

Although the point made by Staeliln was an important one, NIST IGNORED IT.
In putting out its final Report in November 2008, NIST simply repeats the statement in question, as if Staelin's comment had never been received.

Another interesting fact:
The security at the three airports where the departing planes left from also had connections to the Bush family.

what connections were those?

WHO IS MARVIN P. BUSH?

The public rarely sees Marvin P. Bush, brother of President Bush II.

Marvin P. Bush is the founder (1993) and Managing Partner of Winston Partners Group of Vienna, Virginia. It's a private investment company. He is also the Managing General Partner of Winston Growth Fund, LLP; Winston International Growth Fund, LP; Winston Small Cap Growth Fund, LP; all related companies.

Before this, he spent 12 years in the investment business with the firms of Mosley, Hallgarten, Estabrook and Weeden, Shearson Lehman Brothers, and John Stewart Darrel & Company.

In January, 1998, Marvin Bush was appointed to the Board of Directors of the Fresh Del Monte Produce company, the giant fruit company (major product bananas) that makes the canned goods we buy in our markets. Del Monte is owned by a very wealthy family from Kuwait, the Abu-Ghazaleh family. Mohammed Abu-Ghazaleh is the CEO and he has several family members on the Board alongside Marvin Bush. Another member of the Fresh Del Monte Board of Directors is Stephen Way, who is a major Bush fundraiser. Way is the head of the Houston-based HCC Insurance Holdings Company. In early 2000, Stephen Way acquired the appointment of Marvin Bush to the Board of Directors of HCC. In that transaction, Bush not only landed a very large salary, but a sweet stock option deal. He purchased about $130,000 worth of HCC stock which is now valued at close to $600,000, not even one year later.

Marvin Bush is also on the Board of Directors of something called the Kerrco Company.

Marvin also was named to the Board of Directors of the Stratesec Company, another large publicly-traded firm. This company is very secretive and you can find virtually nothing about it. Their website does not allow entry to several links unless one has a password. Virginia-based Stratesec is a provider of high-tech security systems. Two of the major customers for which they provide security are the Dulles International Airport at Washington, D.C. and the Los Alamos National Laboratory. Stratesec's revenues recently went up by 60%, due to what the company describes as "new customers" Prominent people at Stratesec also include former Reagan operatives including Barry McDaniel and Air Force General James A. Abrahamson (who was involved in the Reagan "Star Wars" project). Stratesec is a company is heavily inter-related with the Kuwam Corporation ("Kuw" = Kuwait; "am" = America). Kuwam is a major Kuwaiti Company into many, many activities including the aircraft business. Stratesec's Chief Executive is also the Managing Director of Kuwam Corporation and Kuwam's Chairman Mishal Yousef Saud Al Sabah sits on Stratesec's Board of Directors. Stratesec is providing the primary security for one of the most sensitive airports in the world. Dulles in D.C., has a heavy middle eastern airline connection.

Was the planting of explosives possible?

NIST argues that RDX material could not have been deployed without detection.

There are at least two problems with this statement. It presupposes that the people in charge of security at WTC 7 would necessarily have been concerned to prevent explosives from being planted. AND

The NIST report fails to mention that the security firm for WTC 7, as for WTC 1 and 2 also, Called Securacom (later called Stratesec) had connections to George W. Bush..., which may have made it possible for agents of our government to place explosives in the buildings and escape "detection."

The connections to which Staelin alluded were close one: Marvin Bush, one of the president's brothers, had been one of Securacom's principals in the 1990's, during which the fireproofing upgrades to bementioned below were made, and Wirt Walker III, kone jof jthe Bush brothers' cousins, was the CEO through 2001 (and hence on 9/11 itself.)

NIST ignores facts.

Although the point made by Staeliln was an important one, NIST IGNORED IT.
In putting out its final Report in November 2008, NIST simply repeats the statement in question, as if Staelin's comment had never been received.

Another interesting fact:
The security at the three airports where the departing planes left from also had connections to the Bush family.

Was the planting of explosives possible?

NIST argues that RDX material could not have been deployed without detection.

There are at least two problems with this statement. It presupposes that the people in charge of security at WTC 7 would necessarily have been concerned to prevent explosives from being planted. AND

The NIST report fails to mention that the security firm for WTC 7, as for WTC 1 and 2 also, Called Securacom (later called Stratesec) had connections to George W. Bush..., which may have made it possible for agents of our government to place explosives in the buildings and escape "detection."

The connections to which Staelin alluded were close one: Marvin Bush, one of the president's brothers, had been one of Securacom's principals in the 1990's, during which the fireproofing upgrades to bementioned below were made, and Wirt Walker III, kone jof jthe Bush brothers' cousins, was the CEO through 2001 (and hence on 9/11 itself.)

NIST ignores facts.

Although the point made by Staeliln was an important one, NIST IGNORED IT.
In putting out its final Report in November 2008, NIST simply repeats the statement in question, as if Staelin's comment had never been received.

Another interesting fact:
The security at the three airports where the departing planes left from also had connections to the Bush family.

I suppose the bomb sniffing dogs that roamed the building with their port authority police handlers missed the tons of explosives planted in the 90's..

That's a good one..

never heard of marvin bush... why did you say jeb? he didn't have anything to do with this....

Between you and the Swiss Genius not paying attention I despair .

Past my Bedtime now so I will say Oiche Maith
Feicfidh mé thú amárach

Between you and the Swiss Genius not paying attention I despair .

Past my Bedtime now so I will say Oiche Maith
Feicfidh mé thú amárach

They are not talking detection from security but detection from anyone in the building. Not to mention there were no cascading explosions thus your point is moot. There could be no demolition explosives if there were no demolition like explosions preceeding the colapse. I love how you guys keep ignoring this fact.