Topic: Excellent Question
mightymoe's photo
Sun 04/15/12 02:53 PM
so why is obama only giving birth control to women then? it seems to me he's saying it's the womans problem, not the guys... there is one answer for ya as to why...

Cheer_up's photo
Sun 04/15/12 02:55 PM

A woman could just refuse me?

Cheer...are you smoking crack?

No man...I can hit everyone of them gals I want bro.
rofl Good to be positive bro lolllllllllllllll:laughing: right on :thumbsup:

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Sun 04/15/12 03:03 PM



I did my part......

snip, snip......

years ago!!!!!!

:wink:



now, if only more men who dont care to have children would follow suit,,,lol



Even if i didn't want kids but i think i would like that maybe 1 day:) depends but theres NO WAY noway i would let a doctor snip anything near there you can forget that i was born with it all in tack and keeping it that way lolllllllllll to God made it there for a reason not to mess with like that :thumbsup:


Dude.........it all STILL works the same as it ever did........
but..........
NO MORE........
Child support!!!!!
laugh

Cheer_up's photo
Sun 04/15/12 03:14 PM




My answer:

Women are responsible because it's their bodies. Who is fertile when doesn't matter to me....the woman is the one that gets pregnant, so she has a bigger responsibility IMO.

If men don't want to worry about a woman having their child, then they are responsible, as well

Basically, we are responsible for our own bodies. It takes 2 to tango, so if you don't want to risk getting pregnant then protect yourself or don't dance

I mean, if I decide to have sex and I don't want to get pregnant or STDs, then I should be responsible for my decision. Both are equal in deciding to have sex so both are equal to be responsible

JMO


So, if a woman should be solely responsible for birth control, do you also believe she should be the one responsible for deciding what to do with the baby? Whether she keeps it, puts it up for adoption, or gets an abortion?
technically she does have that choice cause it's her body and she can do want she wants no matter if anyone likes it or not.Same goes for birth control


If that were really the case, there wouldn't be any guys having a problem when a woman does one of those things without his approval. And if it were really just her choice, why are there people out there who want abortion banned?
well both are responsible if a lady becomes pregnant and the man should step up and pay his dues and help too or she should just take the jerk to court if he doesn't as for >why are there people out there who want abortion banned? tell you truth it should be banned the child is alive in the womans womb to me i think its like murder i mean if a doctor does abortion whats the differant's at start or when its born they both still growing ? see its just sick both ways but while in side they don't charge them with murder outside they do in my eyes people who have abortions just murdered their baby sad but true :)and so sad i hate that :thumbsup:

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Sun 04/15/12 03:18 PM
Edited by 42BlackBBW on Sun 04/15/12 03:19 PM

a younger relative posted to me this question,,,which I have no reasonable answer to

If I am only capable of conceiving three or four days a month, and the male is capable of fertlization EVERY DAY,,, why am I the one responsible for taking contraception? why havent males created and been responsible for 'taking' contraception?


Because ultimately, it's the woman that will end up being the primary carer if she did fall pregnant...regardless of whether they remained together as a couple or not. Regardless of whether he is a responsible father or not. In most cases, the child(ren) spend the majority of their time with their mother. Therefore I would say that it’s up to the woman to take responsibility for birth control if she wants to prevent a pregnancy or a STI.

In terms of birth control (and STI's), it’s her body and she shouldn’t rely on the guy to take responsibility for her body. Why? Because people lie.

uncommonsense's photo
Sun 04/15/12 03:26 PM
That is a damn fine point.

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 04/15/12 03:33 PM
Kudos to msharmony because this IS a good question drinker

Cheer_up's photo
Sun 04/15/12 03:57 PM




I did my part......

snip, snip......

years ago!!!!!!

:wink:



now, if only more men who dont care to have children would follow suit,,,lol



Even if i didn't want kids but i think i would like that maybe 1 day:) depends but theres NO WAY noway i would let a doctor snip anything near there you can forget that i was born with it all in tack and keeping it that way lolllllllllll to God made it there for a reason not to mess with like that :thumbsup:


Dude.........it all STILL works the same as it ever did........
but..........
NO MORE........
Child support!!!!!
laugh
well i didn't snip but i don't have any kids either dude so still no way they not cutting nothing i would feel like bobbot if they did lolllllllllllllllllllll cheers rofl

andrewzooms's photo
Sun 04/15/12 04:24 PM
I always come prepared. Trust no one who says they are on the pill.

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Sun 04/15/12 04:25 PM





My answer:

Women are responsible because it's their bodies. Who is fertile when doesn't matter to me....the woman is the one that gets pregnant, so she has a bigger responsibility IMO.

If men don't want to worry about a woman having their child, then they are responsible, as well

Basically, we are responsible for our own bodies. It takes 2 to tango, so if you don't want to risk getting pregnant then protect yourself or don't dance

I mean, if I decide to have sex and I don't want to get pregnant or STDs, then I should be responsible for my decision. Both are equal in deciding to have sex so both are equal to be responsible

JMO


So, if a woman should be solely responsible for birth control, do you also believe she should be the one responsible for deciding what to do with the baby? Whether she keeps it, puts it up for adoption, or gets an abortion?
technically she does have that choice cause it's her body and she can do want she wants no matter if anyone likes it or not.Same goes for birth control


If that were really the case, there wouldn't be any guys having a problem when a woman does one of those things without his approval. And if it were really just her choice, why are there people out there who want abortion banned?
well both are responsible if a lady becomes pregnant and the man should step up and pay his dues and help too or she should just take the jerk to court if he doesn't as for >why are there people out there who want abortion banned? tell you truth it should be banned the child is alive in the womans womb to me i think its like murder i mean if a doctor does abortion whats the differant's at start or when its born they both still growing ? see its just sick both ways but while in side they don't charge them with murder outside they do in my eyes people who have abortions just murdered their baby sad but true :)and so sad i hate that :thumbsup:



this is an emotional but relevant point.

In terms of our culture/laws, pregnancy is strictly a womans rights issue to which men are not given any say,,,

which would perhaps make it 'just' to expect the responsibility for preventing said pregnancy fall upon the woman as well,,,

msharmony's photo
Sun 04/15/12 04:26 PM

Kudos to msharmony because this IS a good question drinker



cant take all the credit, it was a younger relative who asked me,,,

but THANKS yellow flowerforyou flowerforyou

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Sun 04/15/12 04:41 PM


well both are responsible if a lady becomes pregnant and the man should step up and pay his dues and help too or she should just take the jerk to court if he doesn't as for >why are there people out there who want abortion banned? tell you truth it should be banned the child is alive in the womans womb to me i think its like murder i mean if a doctor does abortion whats the differant's at start or when its born they both still growing ? see its just sick both ways but while in side they don't charge them with murder outside they do in my eyes people who have abortions just murdered their baby sad but true :)and so sad i hate that :thumbsup:


If you don't believe abortion should be allowed, wouldn't you do anything possible to prevent pregnancy if you're not ready to have a baby, including taking birth control if it were available?

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Sun 04/15/12 04:41 PM


You said a woman has a bigger responsibility. That's different than equal. :smile:


read the entire post...not just the first sentence. Let me break it down


Women are responsible because it's their bodies. Who is fertile when doesn't matter to me....the woman is the one that gets pregnant, so she has a bigger responsibility IMO.


The women's POV


If men don't want to worry about a woman having their child, then they are responsible, as well


The men's POV

and then...

Basically, we are responsible for our own bodies. It takes 2 to tango, so if you don't want to risk getting pregnant then protect yourself or don't dance


Applies to both sexes


I mean, if I decide to have sex and I don't want to get pregnant or STDs, then I should be responsible for my decision. Both are equal in deciding to have sex so both are equal to be responsible

JMO


my opinion.

You just took the first sentence of the entire post out of context


Didn't realize you were speaking for men as well. Got it now. :thumbsup:

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Sun 04/15/12 04:42 PM

so why is obama only giving birth control to women then? it seems to me he's saying it's the womans problem, not the guys... there is one answer for ya as to why...


Obama is giving birth control to women?

mightymoe's photo
Sun 04/15/12 04:43 PM


so why is obama only giving birth control to women then? it seems to me he's saying it's the womans problem, not the guys... there is one answer for ya as to why...


Obama is giving birth control to women?


yes...

yellowrose10's photo
Sun 04/15/12 04:44 PM

Didn't realize you were speaking for men as well. Got it now. :thumbsup:


whoa again...don't twist my words. I wasn't speaking FOR anyone.


If men don't want to worry about a woman having their child, then they are responsible, as well


this was showing why a man should be responsible too.

so we are debating semantics? Got it now :laughing:

let me say it this way....whoever doesn't want a child or STD but has sex is responsible to protect themselves

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Sun 04/15/12 04:48 PM


Didn't realize you were speaking for men as well. Got it now. :thumbsup:


whoa again...don't twist my words. I wasn't speaking FOR anyone.


If men don't want to worry about a woman having their child, then they are responsible, as well


this was showing why a man should be responsible too.

so we are debating semantics? Got it now :laughing:


I was only going by what you said in your post. You said you gave the woman's pov and the man's pov.

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Sun 04/15/12 04:49 PM



so why is obama only giving birth control to women then? it seems to me he's saying it's the womans problem, not the guys... there is one answer for ya as to why...


Obama is giving birth control to women?


yes...


How so? Making it more readily available? How would he do that for men if there isn't a birth control pill out there that is available for them?

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Sun 04/15/12 04:49 PM

I was only going by what you said in your post. You said you gave the woman's pov and the man's pov.


Actually you took the first sentence at first and now it's about semantics.

As I said in the very first post....it is up to each person. I gave it as I see it. Remember it is my opinion

Let's not read too much into what I said...no hidden agenda or anything

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Sun 04/15/12 04:50 PM


I was only going by what you said in your post. You said you gave the woman's pov and the man's pov.


Actually you took the first sentence at first and now it's about semantics.

As I said in the very first post....it is up to each person. I gave it as I see it. Remember it is my opinion


I realize it's your opinion. I was just asking questions based on your posts. If I'm not allowed to do that, let me know!