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| Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 3 | |
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And Jesus said those words out of anger. If you'd imagine the anger Jesus was having. And yes it is ok to "anger" by itself. Just anger and sin not. wow... Jesus was angry at God? Not necassarily... "Angry" isn't specifically the word I'm looking for. But he was feeling alone up on the cross, he was feeling abonded up there to bare the pain that was place upon him. He was feeling forsaken. well you did use the word "anger" in fact you use the word anger 4 times in one post ...why do you contradict everything you post ...now do you understand why I claim there are Three Cowboys Dude, chill out lol. As I said "Angy isn't specifically the word I'm looking for". Couldn't think of a word to use, thus why I explained it in my second post on it. oh so you blame me because you couldn't find the word ..but anyway when I asked if Jesus was angry at God is when you decided that angry wasn't the right word ....perhaps the word you are looking for is "perturb" ....or "pissed off" |
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God is referring to God the father. In the same way "God" is used when Jesus cried out to him no it can't be the same way as when Jesus cried out .....God is mention in Genesis 1:1 and Lord God isn't mention in Genesis 1:1 ... so Jesus and God are two seperate Beings and Jesus is Lord God ....then why isn't lord God also mention in Genesis 1:1 Because Jesus didn't do anything in Genesis 1:1. They are the same "God", thus the reasoning of the use of "god" in both "God" and "LORD God". Just "LORD" is placed there to show exactly whom did what is being referred to. And wouldn't make sense to use "Father" there, as Jesus in the flesh had not come into the picture. Therefore their was no "Father" or "Son", for again Jesus had not taken on the flesh yet. And is why again the term "God" is used in place of what would be "Father". what you mean that Jesus didn't do anything in Genesis 1:1...you said that Jesus created The Heavens and The Earth ...was that you once again spreading false gospel? |
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And Jesus said those words out of anger. If you'd imagine the anger Jesus was having. And yes it is ok to "anger" by itself. Just anger and sin not. wow... Jesus was angry at God? Not necassarily... "Angry" isn't specifically the word I'm looking for. But he was feeling alone up on the cross, he was feeling abonded up there to bare the pain that was place upon him. He was feeling forsaken. well you did use the word "anger" in fact you use the word anger 4 times in one post ...why do you contradict everything you post ...now do you understand why I claim there are Three Cowboys Dude, chill out lol. As I said "Angy isn't specifically the word I'm looking for". Couldn't think of a word to use, thus why I explained it in my second post on it. oh so you blame me because you couldn't find the word ..but anyway when I asked if Jesus was angry at God is when you decided that angry wasn't the right word ....perhaps the word you are looking for is "perturb" ....or "pissed off" ??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". |
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God is referring to God the father. In the same way "God" is used when Jesus cried out to him no it can't be the same way as when Jesus cried out .....God is mention in Genesis 1:1 and Lord God isn't mention in Genesis 1:1 ... so Jesus and God are two seperate Beings and Jesus is Lord God ....then why isn't lord God also mention in Genesis 1:1 Because Jesus didn't do anything in Genesis 1:1. They are the same "God", thus the reasoning of the use of "god" in both "God" and "LORD God". Just "LORD" is placed there to show exactly whom did what is being referred to. And wouldn't make sense to use "Father" there, as Jesus in the flesh had not come into the picture. Therefore their was no "Father" or "Son", for again Jesus had not taken on the flesh yet. And is why again the term "God" is used in place of what would be "Father". what you mean that Jesus didn't do anything in Genesis 1:1...you said that Jesus created The Heavens and The Earth ...was that you once again spreading false gospel? Nothing was done in Genesis 1:1 Genesis 1 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Is just an informative verse of what was to be described. And besides that, again they are one God. It only says "LORD" God when just the LORD did whatever is in mention himself. |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. |
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Nothing was done in Genesis 1:1 Genesis 1 1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Is just an informative verse of what was to be described. And besides that, again they are one God. It only says "LORD" God when just the LORD did whatever is in mention himself. Cowboy...creating the Heavens and The Earth is called "doing something" and it's more than informative...it's the beginning of the bible.....and in Genesis 1:1 they claim that God created The Heavens and The Earth...it didn't mention anything about "Lord God" so again.. if God and Lord God are two seperate beings why aren't both mention in Genesis 1:1 |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. so are you saying that they were not one? |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. Sin separates us from God. Thus is the reasoning Jesus was feeling separated from God the father when he bore all our sins. |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. so are you saying that they were not one? Yeah they were still one God. A brother and a sister are one family. REGARDLESS if they are having fights, are separated from one another, or any number of possibilities. They will always remain family no matter the circumstance. Same as Jesus and the Father will always be one God regardless of the circumstance. |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. Sin separates us from God. Thus is the reasoning Jesus was feeling separated from God the father when he bore all our sins. so Jesus was not one with God? |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. Sin separates us from God. Thus is the reasoning Jesus was feeling separated from God the father when he bore all our sins. so Jesus was not one with God? He was FEELING separated from God. He overpowered that sin though and defeated death for us all. |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. Sin separates us from God. Thus is the reasoning Jesus was feeling separated from God the father when he bore all our sins. so Jesus was not one with God? He was FEELING separated from God. He overpowered that sin though and defeated death for us all. so the answer is? ...was he one with God or not? |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. Sin separates us from God. Thus is the reasoning Jesus was feeling separated from God the father when he bore all our sins. so Jesus was not one with God? He was FEELING separated from God. He overpowered that sin though and defeated death for us all. so the answer is? ...was he one with God or not? I answered. Yes he was still one with God, Jesus is more powerful then sin. Sin can not keep Jesus away from God. |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. Sin separates us from God. Thus is the reasoning Jesus was feeling separated from God the father when he bore all our sins. so Jesus was not one with God? He was FEELING separated from God. He overpowered that sin though and defeated death for us all. so the answer is? ...was he one with God or not? I answered. Yes he was still one with God, Jesus is more powerful then sin. Sin can not keep Jesus away from God. don't you sin and keep running back to God...and if Jesus is more powerful than Sin as you claim...then sin wouldn't have anything to do with why Jesus was "upset" with God if Jesus was upset at God...then clearly at that point in time..they were not one |
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I answered. well i wish you answer if Jesus and God are seperate beings and Jesus is Lord GOd as you claim then why isn't God and Lord God both mention in Genesis 1:1 and why isn't both God and Lord God mention in Genesis 2:4 |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. Sin separates us from God. Thus is the reasoning Jesus was feeling separated from God the father when he bore all our sins. so Jesus was not one with God? He was FEELING separated from God. He overpowered that sin though and defeated death for us all. so the answer is? ...was he one with God or not? I answered. Yes he was still one with God, Jesus is more powerful then sin. Sin can not keep Jesus away from God. don't you sin and keep running back to God...and if Jesus is more powerful than Sin as you claim...then sin wouldn't have anything to do with why Jesus was "upset" with God if Jesus was upset at God...then clearly at that point in time..they were not one Jesus wasn't upset with God specifically, what are you talking about? Why would Jesus have been upset with God? God had nothing to do with Jesus being crucified. It is our fault Jesus was crucified, our as in the human race. Jesus FELT abandoned, he felt "forsaken". But God didn't forsake him, he is in Heaven right now at the right hand of God the father. |
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Fri 03/30/12 02:38 PM
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. Sin separates us from God. Thus is the reasoning Jesus was feeling separated from God the father when he bore all our sins. so Jesus was not one with God? He was FEELING separated from God. He overpowered that sin though and defeated death for us all. so the answer is? ...was he one with God or not? I answered. Yes he was still one with God, Jesus is more powerful then sin. Sin can not keep Jesus away from God. don't you sin and keep running back to God...and if Jesus is more powerful than Sin as you claim...then sin wouldn't have anything to do with why Jesus was "upset" with God if Jesus was upset at God...then clearly at that point in time..they were not one Jesus wasn't upset with God specifically, what are you talking about? Why would Jesus have been upset with God? God had nothing to do with Jesus being crucified. It is our fault Jesus was crucified, our as in the human race. Jesus FELT abandoned, he felt "forsaken". But God didn't forsake him, he is in Heaven right now at the right hand of God the father. oh so now you're claiming that Jesus wasn't "upset" at God specifically?....see how I can make you contradict yourself ...so ok let's find a new word that I can make you contradict |
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??? Didn't blame you for anything. And the best word actually now that I think of it would probably be "upset". wow...so you mean that Jesus was "upset" with God? At that moment, yes. He was feeling separated from God. Which he was because he bore our sins on that cross. Sin separates us from God. Thus is the reasoning Jesus was feeling separated from God the father when he bore all our sins. so Jesus was not one with God? He was FEELING separated from God. He overpowered that sin though and defeated death for us all. so the answer is? ...was he one with God or not? I answered. Yes he was still one with God, Jesus is more powerful then sin. Sin can not keep Jesus away from God. don't you sin and keep running back to God...and if Jesus is more powerful than Sin as you claim...then sin wouldn't have anything to do with why Jesus was "upset" with God if Jesus was upset at God...then clearly at that point in time..they were not one Jesus wasn't upset with God specifically, what are you talking about? Why would Jesus have been upset with God? God had nothing to do with Jesus being crucified. It is our fault Jesus was crucified, our as in the human race. Jesus FELT abandoned, he felt "forsaken". But God didn't forsake him, he is in Heaven right now at the right hand of God the father. oh so now you're claiming that Jesus wasn't "upset" at God specifically?....see how I can make you contradict yourself ...so ok let's find a new word that I can make you contradict No, just again your missunderstanding. Jesus wasn't upset at God in specifics. He was just frustrated like feeling, he felt alone. Because when he obsorbed the sin from the world, IT separated him from God. Nothing God himself did. Just at that time and space Jesus felt separated from God and abandoned... forsaken. |
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No, just again your missunderstanding. Jesus wasn't upset at God in specifics. He was just frustrated like feeling, he felt alone. Because when he obsorbed the sin from the world, IT separated him from God. Nothing God himself did. Just at that time and space Jesus felt separated from God and abandoned... forsaken. ok..so the new word is "frustrated" ....so now you claim that Jesus have feelings of "Frustration" and "Abandonment" because God had forsaken him... being in a state of Frustration and Abandonment is clearly not a sign of Jesus being one with God |
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