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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 3
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Sat 03/31/12 01:36 PM
IN creation the Father SPOKE, The Word ACTED, and the Spirit MOVED.

All 3 are INVOLVED in Creation...but it was the WORD Who ACTED

while the Father SPOKE The Word...and The Sprit MOVED....

all 3 are ONE SUPREME BEING.....the 3 Persons

WITHIN that ONE SUPREME BEING working together are ONE.


There is ONLY ONE GOD...ONE SUPREME BEING.


That is why we say GOD created the World....

Because God is ONE GOD ....ONE SUPREME BEING.



Also...

Cowboy is misunderstanding about LORD God.

Thid will help explain:

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Question: "What do LORD, GOD, Lord, God, etc., stand for in the

Bible? Why are they used in place of God's name?"




Answer: It can be very confusing to understand how the different

titles used for God are used in the Bible. Part of the problem is

that different Bible translations use the terms somewhat

differently. The primary reason for the use of LORD in place of

God's Hebrew name is to follow the tradition of the Israelites in

not pronouncing or spelling out God's name. So, when God's Hebrew

name "YHWH" is used in the Old Testament, English translations

usually use "LORD" in all caps or small caps. Also, since ancient

Hebrew did not use vowels in its written form, it is not entirely

clear how God's name should be spelled or pronounced. It could be

Yahweh, or Jehovah, or Yehowah, or something else.




As stated above, when "LORD" in all caps or small caps occurs in the

Old Testament, it is a replacement for an occurrence of God's

Hebrew name "YHWH," also known as the Tetragrammaton. This is fairly

consistent throughout all the different English translations of the

Bible. When "Lord" occurs in the Old Testament, referring to God,

it is usually a rendering of "Adonai," a name/title of God that

emphasizes His lordship. LORD/YHWH and Lord/Adonai are by far the

two most consistent renderings throughout all the different English

Bible translations.




In the Old Testament, when "God" is used, it is usually a rendering

of the general Hebrew word for God, "Elohim." When "LORD GOD"

or "Lord GOD" occurs, it is usually a rendering of a dual name for

God "Adonai YHWH." The Hebrew term "YHWH Sabaoth" is usually

rendered "Lord of Hosts." The Hebrew term "YHWH Shaddai" is usually

rendered "LORD Almighty." The Old Testament uses many different

names and titles to refer to God, to emphasize certain aspects of

His person and attributes. This can result in confusion in

translation, but in the original Hebrew, it was done entirely in an

effort to glorify and magnify God's name.




The usage of "Lord" and "God" in the New Testament is much less

complicated. Almost universally, "God" is a translation of "theos,"

the general Greek word for deity. Also almost universally, "Lord"

is a translation of "kurios," the general Greek word for a master.

The key point in all of this is that whether we use His actual

Hebrew name, or refer to Him as God, or Lord, or Lord God, we are

to always show reverence to Him and His name.


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Sat 03/31/12 01:41 PM

IN creation the Father SPOKE, The Word ACTED, and the Spirit MOVED.

All 3 are INVOLVED in Creation...but it was the WORD Who ACTED

while the Father SPOKE The Word...and The Sprit MOVED....

all 3 are ONE SUPREME BEING.....the 3 Persons

WITHIN that ONE SUPREME BEING working together are ONE.


There is ONLY ONE GOD...ONE SUPREME BEING.


That is why we say GOD created the World....

Because God is ONE GOD ....ONE SUPREME BEING.



Also...

Cowboy is misunderstanding about LORD God.

Thid will help explain:

...........................................................



Question: "What do LORD, GOD, Lord, God, etc., stand for in the

Bible? Why are they used in place of God's name?"




Answer: It can be very confusing to understand how the different

titles used for God are used in the Bible. Part of the problem is

that different Bible translations use the terms somewhat

differently. The primary reason for the use of LORD in place of

God's Hebrew name is to follow the tradition of the Israelites in

not pronouncing or spelling out God's name. So, when God's Hebrew

name "YHWH" is used in the Old Testament, English translations

usually use "LORD" in all caps or small caps. Also, since ancient

Hebrew did not use vowels in its written form, it is not entirely

clear how God's name should be spelled or pronounced. It could be

Yahweh, or Jehovah, or Yehowah, or something else.




As stated above, when "LORD" in all caps or small caps occurs in the

Old Testament, it is a replacement for an occurrence of God's

Hebrew name "YHWH," also known as the Tetragrammaton. This is fairly

consistent throughout all the different English translations of the

Bible. When "Lord" occurs in the Old Testament, referring to God,

it is usually a rendering of "Adonai," a name/title of God that

emphasizes His lordship. LORD/YHWH and Lord/Adonai are by far the

two most consistent renderings throughout all the different English

Bible translations.




In the Old Testament, when "God" is used, it is usually a rendering

of the general Hebrew word for God, "Elohim." When "LORD GOD"

or "Lord GOD" occurs, it is usually a rendering of a dual name for

God "Adonai YHWH." The Hebrew term "YHWH Sabaoth" is usually

rendered "Lord of Hosts." The Hebrew term "YHWH Shaddai" is usually

rendered "LORD Almighty." The Old Testament uses many different

names and titles to refer to God, to emphasize certain aspects of

His person and attributes. This can result in confusion in

translation, but in the original Hebrew, it was done entirely in an

effort to glorify and magnify God's name.




The usage of "Lord" and "God" in the New Testament is much less

complicated. Almost universally, "God" is a translation of "theos,"

the general Greek word for deity. Also almost universally, "Lord"

is a translation of "kurios," the general Greek word for a master.

The key point in all of this is that whether we use His actual

Hebrew name, or refer to Him as God, or Lord, or Lord God, we are

to always show reverence to Him and His name.




Replacing God's name with "LORD" would not make sense though.

Why would it say his name over and over, why would it say it sometimes and then sometimes not? Wouldn't make much sense if it replaced his name.

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Sat 03/31/12 01:44 PM



I've never been a "Christian". I am a follower of Jesus Christ. Most people call that Christian, but the title is just that, a title. Has no real baring on anything. I am a servant to my lord Jesus Christ.


you were a Christian until last week...so stop lying



Not lying... People call it "Christian", I call it serving the LORD Jesus Christ.


Cowboy..you have posted many times in this forum that you were a Christian....so were you lying?...also if I go to your profile page you probably have on there that you are Christian ...so stop with the lies before I tell Jesus on you

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Sat 03/31/12 01:46 PM





And give this verse that says only our the Father creates.

Jeremiah 1

4Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

5Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations



what they verse indicates is how everyone was once the Word ...how everyone was once one with God before being turned into flesh and becoming seperated from God




???? How exactly did you get that from that verse?

"formed thee in the belly"

And absolutely no mention of the Word, nor being separated from God.


he knew the guy before he formed him in the belly ...so where did he know him at...

was he a sperm
was he an egg
was he part of God


Because he created us... then formed us in the womb.


so where were he at before the womb?

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Sat 03/31/12 01:48 PM




I've never been a "Christian". I am a follower of Jesus Christ. Most people call that Christian, but the title is just that, a title. Has no real baring on anything. I am a servant to my lord Jesus Christ.


you were a Christian until last week...so stop lying



Not lying... People call it "Christian", I call it serving the LORD Jesus Christ.


Cowboy..you have posted many times in this forum that you were a Christian....so were you lying?...also if I go to your profile page you probably have on there that you are Christian ...so stop with the lies before I tell Jesus on you


Would depend on the topic at hand, as we all know you love to take things out of context and alter things said.

I am a Christian in the aspect that I obey our Christ Jesus. But I don't follow the teachings of "Christianity", I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

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Sat 03/31/12 01:49 PM
Point being......JESUS is NOT a SEPARATE ENTITY

APART from God the Father and God The Holy Spirit , as Cowboy is

INCORRECTLY teaching on here.



The Father,Jesus(Word), and The Holy Spirit are only separate

PERSONS WITHIN ONE ENTITY OR ONE SUPREME BEING...ONE GOD

ALMIGHTY !!!!


THZT IS WHT WE SAY GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE

EARTH...BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONLY ONLY ONE GOD....WHO IS ONLY

ONLY ONLY ONE ENTITY ( ONE SUPREME BEING ) !!!!!!!


AND THAT ONE SUPREME BEING IS MADE UP OF 3 PERSONS, WITHIN

WITHIN WITHIN THAT ONE ENTITIY OR ONE SUPREME BEING!!!!!


GOD ALMIGHTY IS ONLY ONE GOD ...GOD ALMIGHTY IS ONLY ONE

SUPREME BEING !!!!!!!!


GOD IS NOT THREE ENTITIES OR 3 SUPREME BEINGS!!!

GOD IS ONLY ONE ENTITIY (ONE SUPREME BEING ) !!!


ONLY!!!!!

PRAYING THIS IS FINALLY CLEAR NOW !!!!

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Sat 03/31/12 01:50 PM



Jesus is life.


well he must have "ran out" of himself on the cross


No, death could not hold him captive. He lives today and evermore.


well death held him for those three days in Hell ...until the Father did a prison break and busted him out

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Sat 03/31/12 01:54 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Sat 03/31/12 01:59 PM
Replacing God's name with "LORD" would not make sense though.

Why would it say his name over and over, why would it say it sometimes and then sometimes not? Wouldn't make much sense if it replaced his name.





Cowboy......it will not make sense until you are

actually born again ... and the Holy

Spirit comes to live in you and BECOME YOUR TEACHER......and UNTIL

then, , not you nor anyone else will understand....

Cowboy...that is why you should NOT be teacching on here

yet.... you need to go to bible study and church and LEARN

first, BEFORE teaching....

WITHOUT the Holy Sprit IN YOU FIRST to TEACH you , all you will Do

is continue to spread ERROR on here.




:heart:

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Sat 03/31/12 01:55 PM





I've never been a "Christian". I am a follower of Jesus Christ. Most people call that Christian, but the title is just that, a title. Has no real baring on anything. I am a servant to my lord Jesus Christ.


you were a Christian until last week...so stop lying



Not lying... People call it "Christian", I call it serving the LORD Jesus Christ.


Cowboy..you have posted many times in this forum that you were a Christian....so were you lying?...also if I go to your profile page you probably have on there that you are Christian ...so stop with the lies before I tell Jesus on you


Would depend on the topic at hand, as we all know you love to take things out of context and alter things said.

I am a Christian in the aspect that I obey our Christ Jesus. But I don't follow the teachings of "Christianity", I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.


wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww so now you're once again a Christian since I've mention that it's probably on your profile that you are one.....

your lies are reaching pathological levels

I'm going to have to bypass Jesus and go straight to the Father to get you some help

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Sat 03/31/12 02:35 PM






I've never been a "Christian". I am a follower of Jesus Christ. Most people call that Christian, but the title is just that, a title. Has no real baring on anything. I am a servant to my lord Jesus Christ.


you were a Christian until last week...so stop lying



Not lying... People call it "Christian", I call it serving the LORD Jesus Christ.


Cowboy..you have posted many times in this forum that you were a Christian....so were you lying?...also if I go to your profile page you probably have on there that you are Christian ...so stop with the lies before I tell Jesus on you


Would depend on the topic at hand, as we all know you love to take things out of context and alter things said.

I am a Christian in the aspect that I obey our Christ Jesus. But I don't follow the teachings of "Christianity", I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.


wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww so now you're once again a Christian since I've mention that it's probably on your profile that you are one.....

your lies are reaching pathological levels

I'm going to have to bypass Jesus and go straight to the Father to get you some help


No, just in the religious views they didn't have the option "obeys Jesus Christ"... so I had to choose the closest thing "Christianity".

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Sat 03/31/12 02:38 PM

Replacing God's name with "LORD" would not make sense though.

Why would it say his name over and over, why would it say it sometimes and then sometimes not? Wouldn't make much sense if it replaced his name.





Cowboy......it will not make sense until you are

actually born again ... and the Holy

Spirit comes to live in you and BECOME YOUR TEACHER......and UNTIL

then, , not you nor anyone else will understand....

Cowboy...that is why you should NOT be teacching on here

yet.... you need to go to bible study and church and LEARN

first, BEFORE teaching....

WITHOUT the Holy Sprit IN YOU FIRST to TEACH you , all you will Do

is continue to spread ERROR on here.




:heart:


I am born again, the Holy spirit dwells within. I walk with God every step of the way. But thank you once again for judging me.

1Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?


So by you claiming me not to be born again and or "ininuating" it, you are then saying you yourself is not saved or "born again".

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Sat 03/31/12 02:54 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Sat 03/31/12 02:56 PM

Point being......JESUS is NOT a SEPARATE ENTITY

APART from God the Father and God The Holy Spirit , as Cowboy is

INCORRECTLY teaching on here.



The Father,Jesus(Word), and The Holy Spirit are only separate

PERSONS WITHIN ONE ENTITY OR ONE SUPREME BEING...ONE GOD

ALMIGHTY !!!!


THZT IS WHT WE SAY GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE

EARTH...BECAUSE THERE IS ONLY ONLY ONLY ONE GOD....WHO IS ONLY

ONLY ONLY ONE ENTITY ( ONE SUPREME BEING ) !!!!!!!


AND THAT ONE SUPREME BEING IS MADE UP OF 3 PERSONS, WITHIN

WITHIN WITHIN THAT ONE ENTITIY OR ONE SUPREME BEING!!!!!


GOD ALMIGHTY IS ONLY ONE GOD ...GOD ALMIGHTY IS ONLY ONE

SUPREME BEING !!!!!!!!


GOD IS NOT THREE ENTITIES OR 3 SUPREME BEINGS!!!

GOD IS ONLY ONE ENTITIY (ONE SUPREME BEING ) !!!


ONLY!!!!!

PRAYING THIS IS FINALLY CLEAR NOW !!!!



The Father,Jesus(Word), and The Holy Spirit are only separate

PERSONS WITHIN ONE ENTITY OR ONE SUPREME BEING...ONE GOD

ALMIGHTY !!!!


If they were one enity, explain the following verse.


Matthew 3:17
17And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

God the father said this is MY SON!!.. Thus he is something other then God the father, thus something other then the same being God the Father is, thus a different "entity".

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Sat 03/31/12 03:32 PM

No, just in the religious views they didn't have the option "obeys Jesus Christ"... so I had to choose the closest thing "Christianity".


you don't have to be Christian to get into The General Chat Forum ....

but you do have to be Christian to post in The Christian Forum or to fool Christian women that you are Christian

Cowboy...you Devil


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Sat 03/31/12 03:35 PM


No, just in the religious views they didn't have the option "obeys Jesus Christ"... so I had to choose the closest thing "Christianity".


you don't have to be Christian to get into The General Chat Forum ....

but you do have to be Christian to post in The Christian Forum or to fool Christian women that you are Christian

Cowboy...you Devil




Not fooling anyone. People see a Christian as one that puts validity into the bible and follows the new testament. And that is what I do. I don't follow Christianity though in that exact sense. I follow the teachings of Jesus, which then most to all people call a Christian.

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Sat 03/31/12 03:45 PM



No, just in the religious views they didn't have the option "obeys Jesus Christ"... so I had to choose the closest thing "Christianity".


you don't have to be Christian to get into The General Chat Forum ....

but you do have to be Christian to post in The Christian Forum or to fool Christian women that you are Christian

Cowboy...you Devil




Not fooling anyone. People see a Christian as one that puts validity into the bible and follows the new testament. And that is what I do. I don't follow Christianity though in that exact sense. I follow the teachings of Jesus, which then most to all people call a Christian.


do you have it written on your profile page that you had to check Christian as your religion but you're not actually a Christian ...if not...then you are deceiving Christian Women .....


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Sat 03/31/12 05:25 PM




No, just in the religious views they didn't have the option "obeys Jesus Christ"... so I had to choose the closest thing "Christianity".


you don't have to be Christian to get into The General Chat Forum ....

but you do have to be Christian to post in The Christian Forum or to fool Christian women that you are Christian

Cowboy...you Devil




Not fooling anyone. People see a Christian as one that puts validity into the bible and follows the new testament. And that is what I do. I don't follow Christianity though in that exact sense. I follow the teachings of Jesus, which then most to all people call a Christian.


do you have it written on your profile page that you had to check Christian as your religion but you're not actually a Christian ...if not...then you are deceiving Christian Women .....




Christian is my religion. Never said any difference. I myself am not a Christian, I am a servant of the lord. I am a child of God. In secular terms, my religious belief is "Christianity".

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Sat 03/31/12 07:42 PM
The true meaning of CHRISTIAN , is one who is BORN

AGAIN.


Just because someone just CLAIMS to be born again, or

attends a church, doee NOT make a person a born again

christian.


WHEN one is truly born again, The Holy Spirit Indwelling that

beleiver now, ENABLES that believer to RECOGNIZE when another

TRULY has the Holy Spirit IN him or NOT.




But we are also praying that the ones who are not yet born again,

WILL BE....so that they too may come to the saving knowledge of

Jesus Christ, and become born again too.


Believers can NEVER boast about being born again...cause it is

ALL OF GOD'S DOING.

We just want all to have what we have.

Amen.

:heart:


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Sat 03/31/12 08:24 PM

The true meaning of CHRISTIAN , is one who is BORN

AGAIN.


Just because someone just CLAIMS to be born again, or

attends a church, doee NOT make a person a born again

christian.


WHEN one is truly born again, The Holy Spirit Indwelling that

beleiver now, ENABLES that believer to RECOGNIZE when another

TRULY has the Holy Spirit IN him or NOT.




But we are also praying that the ones who are not yet born again,

WILL BE....so that they too may come to the saving knowledge of

Jesus Christ, and become born again too.


Believers can NEVER boast about being born again...cause it is

ALL OF GOD'S DOING.

We just want all to have what we have.

Amen.

:heart:





Believers can NEVER boast about being born again...cause it is

ALL OF GOD'S DOING.


AMEN!!! It's a true blessing from God.

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Sat 03/31/12 08:43 PM

The true meaning of CHRISTIAN , is one who is BORN

AGAIN.


Just because someone just CLAIMS to be born again, or

attends a church, doee NOT make a person a born again

christian.


WHEN one is truly born again, The Holy Spirit Indwelling that

beleiver now, ENABLES that believer to RECOGNIZE when another

TRULY has the Holy Spirit IN him or NOT.




But we are also praying that the ones who are not yet born again,

WILL BE....so that they too may come to the saving knowledge of

Jesus Christ, and become born again too.


Believers can NEVER boast about being born again...cause it is

ALL OF GOD'S DOING.

We just want all to have what we have.

Amen.

:heart:





The true meaning of CHRISTIAN , is one who is BORN

AGAIN.


Not exactly.

Someone chooses to be a "Christian". One doesn't choose to be born again.

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Sun 04/01/12 06:22 AM





No, just in the religious views they didn't have the option "obeys Jesus Christ"... so I had to choose the closest thing "Christianity".


you don't have to be Christian to get into The General Chat Forum ....

but you do have to be Christian to post in The Christian Forum or to fool Christian women that you are Christian

Cowboy...you Devil




Not fooling anyone. People see a Christian as one that puts validity into the bible and follows the new testament. And that is what I do. I don't follow Christianity though in that exact sense. I follow the teachings of Jesus, which then most to all people call a Christian.


do you have it written on your profile page that you had to check Christian as your religion but you're not actually a Christian ...if not...then you are deceiving Christian Women .....




Christian is my religion. Never said any difference. I myself am not a Christian, I am a servant of the lord. I am a child of God. In secular terms, my religious belief is "Christianity".


that makes you a Christian.....why are you trying to scam people that you are not a Christian when it's on your profile page that you are.......

I can't believe I'm about to say this....but you need Jesus

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