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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 3
CowboyGH's photo
Thu 03/29/12 01:59 PM

Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 03/29/12 02:02 PM


Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.


Well that blows that theory out of the water. Looked up the root meaning of the name "Adam" and it means
- man of the earth

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Thu 03/29/12 02:07 PM



Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.


Well that blows that theory out of the water. Looked up the root meaning of the name "Adam" and it means
- man of the earth


so Cowboy is any of that on your birth certificate? ....or is "Hale" on it.....you need to stop lying like this about the bible..or you're going to whine up going to your last name "HALE"

CowboyGH's photo
Thu 03/29/12 02:09 PM




Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.


Well that blows that theory out of the water. Looked up the root meaning of the name "Adam" and it means
- man of the earth


so Cowboy is any of that on your birth certificate? ....or is "Hale" on it.....you need to stop lying like this about the bible..or you're going to whine up going to your last name "HALE"


What in the world are you talking about? No cowboy isn't on my birth certificate, never said Cowboy was my name. It's my nicname on this site, but never claimed it was my real name.

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Thu 03/29/12 02:11 PM





Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.


Well that blows that theory out of the water. Looked up the root meaning of the name "Adam" and it means
- man of the earth


so Cowboy is any of that on your birth certificate? ....or is "Hale" on it.....you need to stop lying like this about the bible..or you're going to whine up going to your last name "HALE"


What in the world are you talking about? No cowboy isn't on my birth certificate, never said Cowboy was my name. It's my nicname on this site, but never claimed it was my real name.


I said you last name "Hale"...not Cowboy

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Thu 03/29/12 02:12 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 03/29/12 02:13 PM






Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.


Well that blows that theory out of the water. Looked up the root meaning of the name "Adam" and it means
- man of the earth


so Cowboy is any of that on your birth certificate? ....or is "Hale" on it.....you need to stop lying like this about the bible..or you're going to whine up going to your last name "HALE"


What in the world are you talking about? No cowboy isn't on my birth certificate, never said Cowboy was my name. It's my nicname on this site, but never claimed it was my real name.


I said you last name "Hale"...not Cowboy


Oh I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. Thought you were asking if "Cowboy" was on my birth certificate.

No my name's initials are in my nicname though. Thus what the GH means.

And yes "Hale" is on my birthcertificate. What's that have to do with anything? Please stay focused Funches.

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Thu 03/29/12 02:14 PM







Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.


Well that blows that theory out of the water. Looked up the root meaning of the name "Adam" and it means
- man of the earth


so Cowboy is any of that on your birth certificate? ....or is "Hale" on it.....you need to stop lying like this about the bible..or you're going to whine up going to your last name "HALE"


What in the world are you talking about? No cowboy isn't on my birth certificate, never said Cowboy was my name. It's my nicname on this site, but never claimed it was my real name.


I said you last name "Hale"...not Cowboy


Oh I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying. Thought you were asking if "Cowboy" was on my birth certificate.

No my name's initials are in my nicname though. Thus what the GH means.

And yes "Hale" is on my birthcertificate. What's that have to do with anything? Please stay focused Funches.


are any of those things that you claim that "hale" means on your birth certificate?

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Thu 03/29/12 02:19 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 03/29/12 02:26 PM


Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.




COWBOY...We are ADOPTED by God when we become born

again..we NEVER beome gods !!!!!!


REPEAT:


WE ARE ADOPTED ONLY !!!

God's children are ADOPTED and made heirs...but born again

christians do NOT EVER become gods..it is nothing but

foolishness you are posting on here when you poat your

crap.....it is plain silly.....wackyness....


we are born of the flesh...we NEVER turn into gods or

angels....God made all things to reproduce after its own kind

only ....meaning....humans will NEVER become gods.....otherwise

God would have to go against His Word.



CowboyGH's photo
Thu 03/29/12 02:26 PM



Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.




COWBOY...We are ADOPTED by God when we become born

again..we NEVER beome gods !!!!!!


REPEAT:


WE ARE ADOPTED ONLY !!!

God's children are ADOPTED and made heirs...but born again

christians do NOT EVER become gods..it foolishness you are

posting on here when you poat your crap.....it is plain

silly.....wackyness....


we are born of the flesh...we NEVER turn into gods or

angels....God made all things to reproduce after its own kind

only ....meaning....humans will NEVER become gods.....otherwise

God would have to go against His Word.






we are born of the flesh...we NEVER turn into gods or

angels


I am born of the spirit thank you very much. This "flesh" is only temporary, I am not.


meaning....humans will NEVER become gods.....otherwise

God would have to go against His Word.


So what exactly does the term "born again" mean? If we are born again the same as we were before we were born again, why then or how then was one born "again".

And how would this mean God would have to go against his Word? What has God said that denotes what I am saying? Yes God is God over all, REGARDLESS if we are gods or not. We are never and can never be God over God the father. But that doesn't mean we aren't gods over the planet, eg., been given dominion over the planet.

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Thu 03/29/12 02:29 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 03/29/12 02:31 PM



Cowboy,it is not my job to keep correcting you and

helping you....especially when the help is not received.


If you look back thru the previous posts, you will find that it

has already been pointed out to you , that adam means human .




Man is a human.......Adam means human .... or man......


Now....I will contunue to pray that you will see the Truth and will

be delivered from this deception of yours.

That is all I can do .


"Adam" may mean human, as in is referring to a human when it refers to "adam". But that is because it's being defined in a secular way.

Show me a VERSE that uses the TERM "human". The scriptures is translated from another language, if one of those words translated into "human" it would have translated that way when it went from original to the englsh language. It wouldn't leave a word that is needed for further translation.

Everyone's name means something. Cause heck my last name "Hale" means the following.

dweller at, or near the corner, nook, small hallow or secret place.

So again show me the term "human" in a later translation, not a translation of a translation, but closer we get to the original, the clearer the true meaning is that we get.




COWBOY...We are ADOPTED by God when we become born

again..we NEVER beome gods !!!!!!


REPEAT:


WE ARE ADOPTED ONLY !!!

God's children are ADOPTED and made heirs...but born again

christians do NOT EVER become gods..it is nothing but

foolishness you are posting on here when you poat your

crap.....it is plain silly.....wackyness....


we are born of the flesh...we NEVER turn into gods or

angels....God made all things to reproduce after its own kind

only ....meaning....humans will NEVER become gods.....otherwise

God would have to go against His Word.






God's children are ADOPTED and made heirs...but born again


Please give a verse(s) that supports this. An adoption would be something God did to cause it to happen. Yes God "draws" us to him, but being "adopted" by God would mean we had no choice in it. For does a child have any say in them being adopted by someone? No, they just have to live with it.

And no we aren't angels, and angels are also not Gods. Angel is a creation all in it's own, just as man was a creation of God.

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Thu 03/29/12 02:42 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 03/29/12 03:18 PM
Born again means your DEAD spirit comes ALIVE again.



WHEN adam and eve disobeyed, their sin of disobedience caused an

INSTANT SPIRITUAL DEATH in them both, followed by a PHYSICAL

DEATH, which just took longer.



WHEN we become born again , our DEAD sprirt is MADE ALIVE

AGAIN (BORN AGAIN) , and we ALSO are given ETERNAL LIFE....but

we NEVER becomes gods!!!!


God also makes born again believers joint heirs with him

later....when we are ressurrected into our new bodies one

day.....but we NEVER EVER become gods....EVER !!!!!



We are ONLY ADOPTED by God when we are Saved ( born again ) !!

NEVER turned into gods !!!


Although God gives us a God kind of Faith ...and Empowers His

body of Christ with The Holy Spirit, and distributes His gifts

among the body of Christ, we still Will not EVER become gods !!!

NEVER EVER!!!!!!


And just because God gave man dominion over animals ,etc,

did NOT mean that God made man a god!!!!!


NEVER EVER!!!!!!



Please...get invloved in a full gospel teaching in your

area where you can learn The REAL TRUTH of The Word of

God....instead of making a mockery of Christianity on here.


Will you listen now, Cowboy???


You are still young.....you could get enrolled in a bible

college and do something with your life..and get some help

in learning The Truth of God's Word.


What's keeping and holding you back from doing this, Cowboy?

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Thu 03/29/12 02:58 PM
Cowboy...below is Just one of many scriptures that

speak of our adoption, whne we become born again :

You go find all the rest of the scriptures....




“His unchanging plan has always been to ADOPT us to Himself through

Jesus Christ. And this gave Him great pleasure” (Ephesians 1:5).



God ADOPTS those who receive Christ as Savior .


:heart:

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Thu 03/29/12 03:05 PM
Here are a couple more:


Galatians 4:5

"So that he might redeeem those who were under the law,

that we might receive the ADOPTION as sons "



Romans 8:15

For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to

fear again, but you have received a sprit of ADOPTION as

sons by which we cry out,"Abba Father"



:heart:

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Thu 03/29/12 09:00 PM

Cowboy...below is Just one of many scriptures that

speak of our adoption, whne we become born again :

You go find all the rest of the scriptures....




“His unchanging plan has always been to ADOPT us to Himself through

Jesus Christ. And this gave Him great pleasure” (Ephesians 1:5).



God ADOPTS those who receive Christ as Savior .


:heart:


There is no adoption in those verse(s), not ment in the manner you're thinking them anyways. Because if it's applied to how you're putting it here, then doesn't matter what you do or believe in this world, God already predistined each and everyone of us to either eternal life or eternal death.


5Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

"Having PREDENSTINED us"

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Thu 03/29/12 09:06 PM
Edited by CowboyGH on Thu 03/29/12 09:07 PM

Here are a couple more:


Galatians 4:5

"So that he might redeeem those who were under the law,

that we might receive the ADOPTION as sons "



Romans 8:15

For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to

fear again, but you have received a sprit of ADOPTION as

sons by which we cry out,"Abba Father"



:heart:


The roman's one has to be out of context as well. For if you read further up it reveals it was caused by something they did or didn't do. Yes we can't be obedient to the father 100% on our own. But the choice to just even try is on our own part.

13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

If God adopted whom he wished to adopt on his own whim, then wouldn't matter if one lived by the flesh or the spirit. Would cancel out being accountable for what you did. If God predestined us to either eternal life or death. That wouldn't even be a "punishment" then. Our lives would mount to nothing more then a prewritten play.

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Thu 03/29/12 09:14 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 03/29/12 09:29 PM
No Cowboy..it did NOT say God presdestined us...


the scripture does not just stop there..it goes on further to

say.....


" presdestined us UNTO THE ADOPTION OF

CHILDREN BY JESUS CHRIST " ...


and that scripture is referring to those

already FOREKNOWN by God who would ACCEPT JESUS.


ONLY THOSE WHO ARE FOREKNOWN TO ACCEPT JESUS ARE PRESDESTINED

UNTO ADOPTION .


"Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus

Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will"




:heart:

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Thu 03/29/12 09:19 PM


No Cowboy..it is did NOT say God presdestined us...


the scripture does not just stop there..it goes on to say.....


" presdestined us UNTO THE ADOPTION OF

CHILDREN BY JESUS CHRIST " ...


and that scripture is referring to those

already FOREKNOWN by God who would ACCEPT JESUS.


ONLY THOSE WHO ARE FOREKNOWN TO ACCEPT JESUS ARE PRESDESTINED

UNTO ADOPTION .


"Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus

Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will"




:heart:



My apologies, I misread the romans verse. My sincere apologies.

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Thu 03/29/12 09:22 PM



No Cowboy..it is did NOT say God presdestined us...


the scripture does not just stop there..it goes on to say.....


" presdestined us UNTO THE ADOPTION OF

CHILDREN BY JESUS CHRIST " ...


and that scripture is referring to those

already FOREKNOWN by God who would ACCEPT JESUS.


ONLY THOSE WHO ARE FOREKNOWN TO ACCEPT JESUS ARE PRESDESTINED

UNTO ADOPTION .


"Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus

Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will"




:heart:



My apologies, I misread the romans verse. My sincere apologies.


Not that I do believe in the predstination. Just thought that's what that particular verse was saying, I didn't see the "by which we cry out,"Abba Father"... they received it because they cried out, not specifically because they were predistined. Again, my apologies.

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Thu 03/29/12 09:22 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 03/29/12 09:27 PM
The scriptures are addressing those who are BORN

AGAIN.....those who are born again are ADOPTED into the Family of

God.



point being....

those who are born again do NOT become gods as you seem to

believe......

those who are born again are just ADOPTED by God ...but will

NEVER EVER become gods....

so lets just drop that silliness now, ok?


:heart:

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Thu 03/29/12 09:26 PM

The scriptures are addressing those who are BORN

AGAIN.....those who are born again are ADOPTED into the Family of

God.



point being....

those who are born again do NOT become gods as you seem to

believe......

those who are born again are just ADOPED by God ...but will

never ever becomes gods....

so lets just drop that silliness now, ok?






We are already gods, born again or not. We have been given dominion over this planet, we have been made gods of this planet. Now we have a God yes, thus there is but one God. One supreme being above us all. We are gods over the beasts of this world in the same sense you're saying "know ye not that ye are gods" is meaning. This was said to Magistrate people and so forth... people with power, with AUTHORITY. In that exact same context is the reason we are gods over the bests of this world. Just now being applied to beasts instead of people.

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