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Topic: Do You Have The Right To Believe - part 2
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Thu 03/08/12 11:27 AM


God, or so I'm told, doesn't hold any part in your choices/decisions to uphold your aspect of "free will".


right, God only make commandments to place on his facebook Wall


Yeah, dude, you can still "sin" and not break a commandment ever.

Says no to covet thy neighbors "WIFE".. says nothing of sleeping around in the commandments. For example.

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Thu 03/08/12 11:28 AM




You keep reducing Jesus to just being a brother


didn't his brother James do that also?


..he was his brother. -.-

Mary and Joseph were both his "fleshly" parents.


Joseph should perhaps take a DNA test


..chea, little late for that no, dun'cha think?

Especially since they didn't have that upteen years ago.

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Thu 03/08/12 11:31 AM

..wow you guys are still going at it? :O

We got 73 degree weather here. I went outside, played some b-ball, met up with a friend and all..

..anyway..

It's not that.



right now I'm editing a demo video, writing some movie scripts, putting together movie crews, e-mailing to consolidate ten live music venues to hold an event on Television

anyway

It's not that




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Thu 03/08/12 11:33 AM



God, or so I'm told, doesn't hold any part in your choices/decisions to uphold your aspect of "free will".


right, God only make commandments to place on his facebook Wall


Yeah, dude, you can still "sin" and not break a commandment ever.

Says no to covet thy neighbors "WIFE".. says nothing of sleeping around in the commandments. For example.


Cowboy said that he feels the presence of God just before he sins...but sins anyway ....

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Thu 03/08/12 11:33 AM


right now I'm editing a demo video, writing some movie scripts, putting together movie crews, e-mailing to consolidate ten live music venues to hold an event on Television



Sweet.

You're in a band? Or..?

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Thu 03/08/12 11:34 AM
Sin_and_Sorrow said:



He's not saying Jesus is GOD.

He is saying Jesus is OUR GOD (Meaning MAN) I effing E: LORD GOD.

Please, get it right already.



If he says 'Jesus is OUR GOD (Meaning MAN)' or 'Jesus is GOD' in both cases that is blaspheme.
If before that there was a claim ' God is the only one' then non of above is true

If second /'God is the only one'/ is not true then no problem to be included as well as Olympus gods , Scandinavian gods etc. and thousands more including Jesus too..





Sin_and_Sorrow said:


ANd I'm not Christian so it's okay. tongue2


That explains all .. :laughing:

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Thu 03/08/12 11:35 AM





You keep reducing Jesus to just being a brother


didn't his brother James do that also?


..he was his brother. -.-

Mary and Joseph were both his "fleshly" parents.


Joseph should perhaps take a DNA test


..chea, little late for that no, dun'cha think?

Especially since they didn't have that upteen years ago.


it's never to late to find out who a child's father is ...since Jesus didn't know the time of judgement dat then that is an indication that he doesn't know everything...or perhaps who his Father is

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Thu 03/08/12 11:36 AM

Sin_and_Sorrow said:



He's not saying Jesus is GOD.

He is saying Jesus is OUR GOD (Meaning MAN) I effing E: LORD GOD.

Please, get it right already.



If he says 'Jesus is OUR GOD (Meaning MAN)' or 'Jesus is GOD' in both cases that is blaspheme.
If before that there was a claim ' God is the only one' then non of above is true

If second /'God is the only one'/ is not true then no problem to be included as well as Olympus gods , Scandinavian gods etc. and thousands more including Jesus too..





Sin_and_Sorrow said:


ANd I'm not Christian so it's okay. tongue2


That explains all .. :laughing:


he's a sleeper cell christian

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Thu 03/08/12 11:37 AM



right now I'm editing a demo video, writing some movie scripts, putting together movie crews, e-mailing to consolidate ten live music venues to hold an event on Television



Sweet.

You're in a band? Or..?


a long long time ago in a county far far away

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Thu 03/08/12 11:37 AM




God, or so I'm told, doesn't hold any part in your choices/decisions to uphold your aspect of "free will".


right, God only make commandments to place on his facebook Wall


Yeah, dude, you can still "sin" and not break a commandment ever.

Says no to covet thy neighbors "WIFE".. says nothing of sleeping around in the commandments. For example.


Cowboy said that he feels the presence of God just before he sins...but sins anyway ....


And your point is?

God doesn't keep people from sinning. He works with people's conscience to not sin, but nevertheless it is the person's choice to sin or not. What exactly are you getting at with this?

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Thu 03/08/12 11:40 AM


If he says 'Jesus is OUR GOD (Meaning MAN)' or 'Jesus is GOD' in both cases that is blaspheme.


Then Jesus was a sinner, deserved to die, and did NOT die for our sins.

That's what your statement just indicated.


If before that there was a claim ' God is the only one' then non of above is true


There was no claim as to such.


If second /'God is the only one'/ is not true then no problem to be included as well as Olympus gods , Scandinavian gods etc. and thousands more including Jesus too..


Who's to say there isn't? *shrug*


That explains all .. :laughing:


Does it? I think I probably know it better than you. rofl

..but that comment was to something entirely different.
So, the point is mute, so I'll not counter it.
Just tongue2 and be done with it.

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Thu 03/08/12 11:41 AM

And your point is?

God doesn't keep people from sinning. He works with people's conscience to not sin, but nevertheless it is the person's choice to sin or not. What exactly are you getting at with this?


how can feeling the presence of the lord make you sin ...don't it supposed to work in the opposite


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Thu 03/08/12 11:41 AM

he's a sleeper cell christian


Interesting term.

I kinda like it. -.-

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Thu 03/08/12 11:43 AM



a long long time ago in a county far far away


Let me guess..

..you were the Swedish Band called: "TROLL" ?

Or the Italian Band: "NEW TROLLS" ?

xD

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Thu 03/08/12 11:43 AM


And your point is?

God doesn't keep people from sinning. He works with people's conscience to not sin, but nevertheless it is the person's choice to sin or not. What exactly are you getting at with this?


how can feeling the presence of the lord make you sin ...don't it supposed to work in the opposite




What are you talking about? I never said the feeling of the presence of the lord makes me sin. I said there are times when I get weak. You should really learn to listen before you speak.

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Thu 03/08/12 11:44 AM




a long long time ago in a county far far away


Let me guess..

..you were the Swedish Band called: "TROLL" ?

Or the Italian Band: "NEW TROLLS" ?

xD


Nope..I was in a band called Sin_and_Sorrow...they use to kick cats for no reason which is why I lefted the band

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Thu 03/08/12 11:45 AM

Sin_and_Sorrow said:



He's not saying Jesus is GOD.

He is saying Jesus is OUR GOD (Meaning MAN) I effing E: LORD GOD.

Please, get it right already.



If he says 'Jesus is OUR GOD (Meaning MAN)' or 'Jesus is GOD' in both cases that is blaspheme.
If before that there was a claim ' God is the only one' then non of above is true

If second /'God is the only one'/ is not true then no problem to be included as well as Olympus gods , Scandinavian gods etc. and thousands more including Jesus too..





Sin_and_Sorrow said:


ANd I'm not Christian so it's okay. tongue2


That explains all .. :laughing:



in both cases that is blaspheme


How is the blasheme? We are told Jesus is our God all the way back to Genesis.

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Thu 03/08/12 11:46 AM





a long long time ago in a county far far away


Let me guess..

..you were the Swedish Band called: "TROLL" ?

Or the Italian Band: "NEW TROLLS" ?

xD


Nope..I was in a band called Sin_and_Sorrow...they use to kick cats for no reason which is why I lefted the band


..you do realize I didn't "make up" those bands, eh?

So tongue2

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Thu 03/08/12 11:48 AM


How is the blasheme? We are told Jesus is our God all the way back to Genesis.


Already covered that, Cowboy.

All she did was become 150% counter productive. That's all.
Let her go.

She's a newbie, apparently to the whole "God/Christian" thing.

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Thu 03/08/12 11:52 AM






a long long time ago in a county far far away


Let me guess..

..you were the Swedish Band called: "TROLL" ?

Or the Italian Band: "NEW TROLLS" ?

xD


Nope..I was in a band called Sin_and_Sorrow...they use to kick cats for no reason which is why I lefted the band


..you do realize I didn't "make up" those bands, eh?

So tongue2


but you did make up the name...so perhaps that explains why you kick cats for no reason

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