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Topic: Spiritual awakening.
AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Sun 03/18/12 05:17 PM
Our purpose is to live and to choose for our self what our purpose will be. It is to realize free will and use it. right...since God has no need for anyone or anything..any purpose would only exist in the mind of the creation as a cry for self worth.... Unconditional Love is Love without need. God needs nothing. Yet he loved us from before we were...

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 03/18/12 05:47 PM
Unconditional Love is Love without need. Unconditional is a condition which is why it's a myth God needs nothing. which is why he has no purpose for you Yet he loved us from before we were... this you know for the bible tells you so

AdventureBegins Joined Tue 04/10/07 Posts: 7666	Sun 03/18/12 06:47 PM
Unconditional Love is Love without need. Unconditional is a condition which is why it's a myth God needs nothing. which is why he has no purpose for you Yet he loved us from before we were... this you know for the bible tells you so Indeed. He has no purpose for me (I am but a spec of dust). This that you see of me is but an avatar of all that I am. Yet I did not find this in the bible upon my first search. I found it instead in the Tablet of Certitude... and a Voice of Might issued forth from the Hidden Words and told me of the path. Then did I find the same written in the Bible. For the Key was in my hands.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sun 03/18/12 07:38 PM
D. No, I didn't say God had a need, I said we have a "purpose". If God has no "needs" .....then exactly what is your "purpose" beyond deluding yourself that you have a purpose ..the fact you don't see it, is why your sad. and yet you still haven't enlighten us as to why God would "need" you for anything ... ..I didn't say he needed us.. But weren't we, by your words, meant to be gardeners? Perhaps a boring "destiny", but it is still one. "God has a plan for everyone." Again, not a need, but perhaps a want.. Who knows. But I know you don't. xD

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sun 03/18/12 07:39 PM
WEL MR "FUNCHES" U HAVE A CHOICE 2 BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD OR 2 REJECT IT ITS CALLED FREE WIL...LIKE I SAID I HOPE AL SINNERS BURN IN HEL:p wow...so you mean when Jesus went to Hell for those three days he was burning?... ...and a sinner? ....cool Naw, more like a "visit", and he didn't "sin". He died for who's sin again? Oh, right...OURS. xD

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Sun 03/18/12 07:42 PM
Unconditional is a condition which is why it's a myth No it's not a condition. It wouldn't be a "word". It's definition would be contradictory. Only myth, is your self proclamation to Mingle "God-dom" which is why he has no purpose for you Why? Because he doesn't "need" it? Do you know what logic actually is? this you know for the bible tells you so I believe it. I don't believe the Bible. So, again. Squished, as someone likes to say.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/19/12 05:17 AM
Unconditional Love is Love without need. Unconditional is a condition which is why it's a myth God needs nothing. which is why he has no purpose for you Yet he loved us from before we were... this you know for the bible tells you so Indeed. He has no purpose for me (I am but a spec of dust). This that you see of me is but an avatar of all that I am. Yet I did not find this in the bible upon my first search. I found it instead in the Tablet of Certitude... and a Voice of Might issued forth from the Hidden Words and told me of the path. Then did I find the same written in the Bible. For the Key was in my hands. as I said. if God has no purpose for you...then you are no purpose to him

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/19/12 05:20 AM
..I didn't say he needed us.. But weren't we, by your words, meant to be gardeners? Perhaps a boring "destiny", but it is still one. "God has a plan for everyone." Again, not a need, but perhaps a want.. Who knows. But I know you don't. xD if God do not have "needs" as you claim....then he have no "need" or "purpose" for you ...as I've claimed

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/19/12 05:23 AM
WEL MR "FUNCHES" U HAVE A CHOICE 2 BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD OR 2 REJECT IT ITS CALLED FREE WIL...LIKE I SAID I HOPE AL SINNERS BURN IN HEL:p wow...so you mean when Jesus went to Hell for those three days he was burning?... ...and a sinner? ....cool Naw, more like a "visit", and he didn't "sin". He died for who's sin again? Oh, right...OURS. xD supposedly all sinners will visit Hell....also ask any Christian and they will tell you that Jesus is still alive....so exactly how did he die for anyone sins...and why do Christians still have sins....

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/19/12 05:27 AM
no it's not a condition. sorry but claiming that Love is Unconditional is in fact placing a condition on it ...

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/19/12 05:29 AM
Only myth, is your self proclamation to Mingle "God-dom" Cowboy claim that "Ye Are All Gods" JennieBean claims that she is God but only when I claim to be God is when you start whining about it

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/19/12 05:33 AM
..I didn't say he needed us.. But weren't we, by your words, meant to be gardeners? Perhaps a boring "destiny", but it is still one. "God has a plan for everyone." Again, not a need, but perhaps a want.. Who knows. But I know you don't. xD if God do not have "needs" as you claim....then he have no "need" or "purpose" for you ...as I've claimed He has no need for us, but why does that mean he has no purpose for us? The two are irrelevant to one another.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Mon 03/19/12 05:35 AM
Only myth, is your self proclamation to Mingle "God-dom" Cowboy claim that "Ye Are All Gods" JennieBean claims that she is God but only when I claim to be God is when you start whining about it Cowboy - Figuratively. Jeannie - Spiritually. Funches - Arrogantly. Hmmmmmmmmm...........

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/19/12 05:36 AM
WEL MR "FUNCHES" U HAVE A CHOICE 2 BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD OR 2 REJECT IT ITS CALLED FREE WIL...LIKE I SAID I HOPE AL SINNERS BURN IN HEL:p wow...so you mean when Jesus went to Hell for those three days he was burning?... ...and a sinner? ....cool Naw, more like a "visit", and he didn't "sin". He died for who's sin again? Oh, right...OURS. xD supposedly all sinners will visit Hell....also ask any Christian and they will tell you that Jesus is still alive....so exactly how did he die for anyone sins...and why do Christians still have sins.... Because Jesus resurrected, death couldn't hold his soul. Jesus defeated death for each and everyone of us. And I don't know about this "supposedly all sinners will visit Hell" lol that's a new one to me. People that have accepted Jesus' gift as well as their lord and savior don't have sins. They/we have been made pure as snow.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Mon 03/19/12 05:37 AM
no it's not a condition. sorry but claiming that Love is Unconditional is in fact placing a condition on it ... You don't "place" conditions, thus if you abide by it; it is true. ..you fail, it doesn't.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Mon 03/19/12 05:38 AM
WEL MR "FUNCHES" U HAVE A CHOICE 2 BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD OR 2 REJECT IT ITS CALLED FREE WIL...LIKE I SAID I HOPE AL SINNERS BURN IN HEL:p wow...so you mean when Jesus went to Hell for those three days he was burning?... ...and a sinner? ....cool Naw, more like a "visit", and he didn't "sin". He died for who's sin again? Oh, right...OURS. xD supposedly all sinners will visit Hell....also ask any Christian and they will tell you that Jesus is still alive....so exactly how did he die for anyone sins...and why do Christians still have sins.... He died in the "flesh". "Spiritually, he was reborn." "Sins never faded. However, that act spared us from judgment while we live."

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/19/12 05:39 AM
no it's not a condition. sorry but claiming that Love is Unconditional is in fact placing a condition on it ... You don't "place" conditions, thus if you abide by it; it is true. ..you fail, it doesn't. And also saying love is unconditional is not placing any condition on it. Conditional love would be along the lines of do this or that to earn the love of such and such. But God offers his love unconditionally. There is nothing one has to do to earn God's love, he loved you before you were even a twinkle in your mother's eye.

Sin_and_Sorrow Joined Sun 01/01/12 Posts: 5757	Mon 03/19/12 05:40 AM
..I didn't say he needed us.. But weren't we, by your words, meant to be gardeners? Perhaps a boring "destiny", but it is still one. "God has a plan for everyone." Again, not a need, but perhaps a want.. Who knows. But I know you don't. xD if God do not have "needs" as you claim....then he have no "need" or "purpose" for you ...as I've claimed ..but you still refuse to acknowledge that he can "want"..

CowboyGH Joined Mon 10/05/09 Posts: 13651	Mon 03/19/12 05:40 AM
WEL MR "FUNCHES" U HAVE A CHOICE 2 BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD OR 2 REJECT IT ITS CALLED FREE WIL...LIKE I SAID I HOPE AL SINNERS BURN IN HEL:p wow...so you mean when Jesus went to Hell for those three days he was burning?... ...and a sinner? ....cool Naw, more like a "visit", and he didn't "sin". He died for who's sin again? Oh, right...OURS. xD supposedly all sinners will visit Hell....also ask any Christian and they will tell you that Jesus is still alive....so exactly how did he die for anyone sins...and why do Christians still have sins.... He died in the "flesh". "Spiritually, he was reborn." "Sins never faded. However, that act spared us from judgment while we live." He died spiritually as well eg., he spent 3 days in hell for us. And then was resurrected because hell couldn't hold his soul, he is much more powerful then death.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Mon 03/19/12 06:00 AM
He has no need for us, but why does that mean he has no purpose for us? The two are irrelevant to one another. if God need you for naught...then there can be no purpose ....you have to get yourself a purpose