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I think liking a person is conditional. I think staying married to a person is conditional. But if you are talking real love, in its pure form, it is unconditional. It can't be bought, sold or bargained for. Anything you call "love" that is conditional is not love. exactly.n human love is never true or unconditional espacially in marriage.love is so only if it is true or unconditional love else it is a dellusion. |
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I do not believe there is love that can match the love of a parent. However, there are some parents who do not deserve to be called parents.
A man and a woman can love under and conditions if it is true love. There are no limits. Some men/women for a reason or other can not engage in sexual activity due to many reasons... however, they manage to keep on loving one another. Some men can no longer work and provide for their wife/family for a number of reasons as well..and yet, the wife will continue to love him. There are a number of reasons for things like this to happen. So I have to disagree with you. Love is love...if love dies due to your reasoning..then it never really was love to begin with. |
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When you channel divine love, you, as a human can give true love. Just because you are human does not mean you cannot love someone unconditionally.
This love is not the same as human love and it does not require anything in return. Which means you cannot trade it for sex or financial support and lack of sex or financial support cannot change or prevent love that is unconditional. You also do not have to be attached or involved with a person that you love unconditionally. There is nothing required for unconditional love. It is divine love from God being channeled through a human. It is the life force. It is called agape love. God lives and has his being in us. God loves through us. God sends love through our hearts. You have to open your heart and let it in, in order to have access to endless amounts of love. There is no limit to it. |
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Human love can never be unconditional.Our love is as imperfect as we humans ourselves r.No woman can love a man who does not provide her food n shelter n no man loves a woman who can not provide sexual pleasure.Only parents love is mostly unconditional but in their old age even they have the expectation to be looked after.Only Gods love for humans is completely onconditional. Really? Are you serious? No man can love a woman who cannot provide sexual pleasure?  What you are calling "love" is not love AT ALL. And you really think love for a man from a woman is about him providing her food and shelter? You have never experienced love if you actually believe this. fren i think these are bitter realities of lyfe.love i experienced is love within marriage n marriage has its rules n preconditions for love.u give me food n shelter n i provide u sex.sound financial security is a must for a sucessful n happy marriage coz when poverty enters through doors love disappears through windows. Sorry, but they are not connected. Money can't buy you love. It can buy you sex, but not love. It can provide food and shelter, but money can't buy you love. no wonder love went out the window |
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I do not believe there is love that can match the love of a parent. However, there are some parents who do not deserve to be called parents. A man and a woman can love under and conditions if it is true love. There are no limits. Some men/women for a reason or other can not engage in sexual activity due to many reasons... however, they manage to keep on loving one another. Some men can no longer work and provide for their wife/family for a number of reasons as well..and yet, the wife will continue to love him. There are a number of reasons for things like this to happen. So I have to disagree with you. Love is love...if love dies due to your reasoning..then it never really was love to begin with. I have known of couples where their love was truly unconditional but as well it is true from what I know of the people no one was doing anything abusive as far as I could tell as a friend/relative who was an outsider I also know of couples who have stayed together when odds were they would not in both instances the pair were truly each other's best friend and I think that's what it takes... I also think it is rare that love is unconditional - usually there are conditions and so I do agree with the OP that our love is often less than perfect, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't continue to strive to perfect the love we have but I don't agree on his definition of a marriage at all |
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Edited by
Jeanniebean
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Fri 03/02/12 06:36 AM
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Perhaps a young man is drawn to marriage with the idea of sex and companionship, but how often does a man pick a wife for the purpose of having his children unless that is what his culture or title promotes?
A king has to marry a woman who can bare his children and cannot marry simply for love. Princess Diana and Charles come to mind. After two boys were born, Prince Charles returned to his true love. Other cultures regard marriage as a business arrangement and for the purpose of creating children. Americans not so much. |
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Human love can never be unconditional.Our love is as imperfect as we humans ourselves r.No woman can love a man who does not provide her food n shelter n no man loves a woman who can not provide sexual pleasure.Only parents love is mostly unconditional but in their old age even they have the expectation to be looked after.Only Gods love for humans is completely onconditional. Really? Are you serious? No man can love a woman who cannot provide sexual pleasure? What you are calling "love" is not love AT ALL. And you really think love for a man from a woman is about him providing her food and shelter? You have never experienced love if you actually believe this. Agree 100%. The unconditional part is what makes it so hard to let go sometimes. Some people view partners as property or business arrangements. Marriages are arranged to encourage this idear in some cultures. They like to pretend its love because thats what we associate with marriage. Its disturbing that people get so confused. that can be true as we have all probably seen instances of what you are saying - even in our own mainstream culture but when true love exists it can be hard to let go because our brains are ingrained to love and protect this person - for years after my divorce I still felt guilty dating! So I seldom did and it never lasted - it wasn't until 4 or 5 yrs after my divorce that I had a boyfriend for any length of time. Even though cognitively we know it's "over" we need time to retrain our subconcious to see us as single I can't speak for anyone else - but for me it wasn't so much that I wanted to resume my marriage but I still saw myself (in a generic sense) as a married woman - even tho I wasn't....weird yes.... but I was told by a therapist that it was normal 
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I believe that two adults are capable of loving someone (in a marriage, dating context) unconditionally but only in the short term. I don’t think that human beings are capable of continuous, unconditional love for the duration of a relationship.
I also believe that two people can love unconditionally at different points in a relationship but as I said, it’s intermittent. To say that two people can’t love unconditionally would leave me to believe that maybe you’ve been in love with the wrong people. Either that or your concept of what love is isn’t realistic. IMO, being in love doesn’t mean that you’re blinded and/or unaware of his/her faults. In my mind, you love them and they love you regardless. |
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Of course love is conditional. No one is going to love someone without being loved back. The minute you expect love back then its a condition. A parents love isn't always unconditional either as I know some parents that truly do not love their kids. Pets will love you only if you feed them or pay attention to them so thats a condition. I have loved a bunch of people without being loved back, in fact it seems to be the story of my life. You may say it wasn't true love--maybe not, but who knows? All I know is what it felt like. You are unfortunately right about parents not always loving their children unconditionally. There are so many things called love that really are not. It's easy to confuse ourselves. I think its human nature that even if you aren't loved that you are at least appreciated. I for one don't believe one can be in a relationship with someone that didn't love them back. If you both aren't in love; there is no relationship. This is a condition for that love. I don't think its a bad thing though. We all want something in return for our affections as we are just human. |
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No, not every human is the same, thinks the same or feels the same.
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Of course love is conditional. No one is going to love someone without being loved back. The minute you expect love back then its a condition. A parents love isn't always unconditional either as I know some parents that truly do not love their kids. Pets will love you only if you feed them or pay attention to them so thats a condition. Love is a feeling,if it isn't felt,it do not exist. Any feeling that you call love if isn't felt & isn't getting equal response from other end,then you just can't term it as love. Love can never be conditional.Expecting back is a transaction,not love. There is difference in expecting & getting. Love is always spontaneous & automatic,it don't wait for satisfaction of conditions. |
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Can human love be conditional? Actually,it isn't love if it is conditional. So,what is the question?? |
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I just find it hard to believe that all those that claim they want a relationship would love someone that didn't love them back. The minute you want that person to love you back; its a condition.
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Of course love is conditional. No one is going to love someone without being loved back. The minute you expect love back then its a condition. A parents love isn't always unconditional either as I know some parents that truly do not love their kids. Pets will love you only if you feed them or pay attention to them so thats a condition. I have loved a bunch of people without being loved back, in fact it seems to be the story of my life. You may say it wasn't true love--maybe not, but who knows? All I know is what it felt like. You are unfortunately right about parents not always loving their children unconditionally. There are so many things called love that really are not. It's easy to confuse ourselves. I think its human nature that even if you aren't loved that you are at least appreciated. I for one don't believe one can be in a relationship with someone that didn't love them back. If you both aren't in love; there is no relationship. This is a condition for that love. I don't think its a bad thing though. We all want something in return for our affections as we are just human. I don't see any relation between love & appreciation,so not loved but AT LEAST APPRECIATED don't make any sense to me.both things are totally different. Imagine someone saying "Thanks for Loving me so much,but extremely sorry that I can't love you back.I appreciate your lovely loving efforts" And the so called lover saying "It's OK,Man!!Any way I'm glad that you AT LEAST APPRECIATED my love efforts.  Most of the relationships are made on the basis of social & financial status,nothing to do with love & feelings.where there is a condition,there isn't love.It is a pure transaction in nature,but we people term it as love ,as we are selfish. It isn't bad,but still love exist & we human too do it. |
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Human love can never be unconditional.Our love is as imperfect as we humans ourselves r.No woman can love a man who does not provide her food n shelter n no man loves a woman who can not provide sexual pleasure.Only parents love is mostly unconditional but in their old age even they have the expectation to be looked after.Only Gods love for humans is completely onconditional. love can be and is unconditional having expectations doesnt have an absolute connection to loving someone I expected fidelity in my first marriage, because I didnt get that I left that SITUATION, but I still love and always will love my ex husband,,,,thats unconditional |
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If love was unconditional; why are there divorces or break ups? If someone cheats on you; then why leave them if your love is unconditional? The condition is you love them and they don't cheat on you. How about when someone abuses you, neglects you, or doesn't spend time with you? Are you still going to love then unconditionally? If so, then why break it off with them? How about kids? An example is your loving teenager or even adult kids murders the love of your life. But what the heck; you still love the that child. After all its just a murder. Sorry, I am having a hard time digesting that. I love my brother and the condition I set is he talks to me on the phone once in a while or we have coffee. Yes, small conditions but conditions none the less. I would not love anyone without some conditions in place as I am not a fool. The conditions don't have to be materialistic; the person doesn't even have to say they love me but I do expect them to acknowledge the existence of me; that is my condition. I may not be romantic but I am practical.
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Of course love is conditional. No one is going to love someone without being loved back. The minute you expect love back then its a condition. A parents love isn't always unconditional either as I know some parents that truly do not love their kids. Pets will love you only if you feed them or pay attention to them so thats a condition. I have loved a bunch of people without being loved back, in fact it seems to be the story of my life. You may say it wasn't true love--maybe not, but who knows? All I know is what it felt like. You are unfortunately right about parents not always loving their children unconditionally. There are so many things called love that really are not. It's easy to confuse ourselves. I think its human nature that even if you aren't loved that you are at least appreciated. I for one don't believe one can be in a relationship with someone that didn't love them back. If you both aren't in love; there is no relationship. This is a condition for that love. I don't think its a bad thing though. We all want something in return for our affections as we are just human. I don't see any relation between love & appreciation,so not loved but AT LEAST APPRECIATED don't make any sense to me.both things are totally different. Imagine someone saying "Thanks for Loving me so much,but extremely sorry that I can't love you back.I appreciate your lovely loving efforts" And the so called lover saying "It's OK,Man!!Any way I'm glad that you AT LEAST APPRECIATED my love efforts. Most of the relationships are made on the basis of social & financial status,nothing to do with love & feelings.where there is a condition,there isn't love.It is a pure transaction in nature,but we people term it as love ,as we are selfish. It isn't bad,but still love exist & we human too do it. I guess I was putting two different scenarios in my last thread. What I mean by appreciation is someone that you love; not necessarily in a romantic way; like a friend or family. |
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If love was unconditional; why are there divorces or break ups? If someone cheats on you; then why leave them if your love is unconditional? The condition is you love them and they don't cheat on you. How about when someone abuses you, neglects you, or doesn't spend time with you? Are you still going to love then unconditionally? If so, then why break it off with them? How about kids? An example is your loving teenager or even adult kids murders the love of your life. But what the heck; you still love the that child. After all its just a murder. Sorry, I am having a hard time digesting that. I love my brother and the condition I set is he talks to me on the phone once in a while or we have coffee. Yes, small conditions but conditions none the less. I would not love anyone without some conditions in place as I am not a fool. The conditions don't have to be materialistic; the person doesn't even have to say they love me but I do expect them to acknowledge the existence of me; that is my condition. I may not be romantic but I am practical. again, love is how we feel for someone feeling love for someone does not require us to remain in unhealthy relationships, we can love without sharing a life that is why things 'break up', because even though we may love someone unconditionally, that doesnt negate our unconditional love for ourself and unwillingness to be unsafe or unhappy to 'prove' love to someone,,, and , as a mother, I can tell you that even if my child murdered someone, I wouldnt stop loving them we dont have to approve of or even like what someone does to love them, I would be disgusted, hurt, dissapointed, but none of that would keep me from LOVING my child |
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If love was unconditional; why are there divorces or break ups? If someone cheats on you; then why leave them if your love is unconditional? The condition is you love them and they don't cheat on you. How about when someone abuses you, neglects you, or doesn't spend time with you? Are you still going to love then unconditionally? If so, then why break it off with them? How about kids? An example is your loving teenager or even adult kids murders the love of your life. But what the heck; you still love the that child. After all its just a murder. Sorry, I am having a hard time digesting that. I love my brother and the condition I set is he talks to me on the phone once in a while or we have coffee. Yes, small conditions but conditions none the less. I would not love anyone without some conditions in place as I am not a fool. The conditions don't have to be materialistic; the person doesn't even have to say they love me but I do expect them to acknowledge the existence of me; that is my condition. I may not be romantic but I am practical. Love is a feeling, not a condemnation, or a contract, or a prison sentence. You can leave a bad person you love. yours was so much simpler than mine,,,,lol exactly |
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Edited by
navygirl
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Fri 03/02/12 11:35 AM
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Of course love is conditional. No one is going to love someone without being loved back. The minute you expect love back then its a condition. A parents love isn't always unconditional either as I know some parents that truly do not love their kids. Pets will love you only if you feed them or pay attention to them so thats a condition. I have loved a bunch of people without being loved back, in fact it seems to be the story of my life. You may say it wasn't true love--maybe not, but who knows? All I know is what it felt like. You are unfortunately right about parents not always loving their children unconditionally. There are so many things called love that really are not. It's easy to confuse ourselves. Most of the relationships are made on the basis of social & financial status,nothing to do with love & feelings.where there is a condition,there isn't love.It is a pure transaction in nature,but we people term it as love ,as we are selfish. It isn't bad,but still love exist & we human too do it. If that is the case; why bother to be in a relationship? If I am okay with social and financial status and seems like a waste of time to be with anyone |
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