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If love was unconditional; why are there divorces or break ups? If someone cheats on you; then why leave them if your love is unconditional? The condition is you love them and they don't cheat on you. How about when someone abuses you, neglects you, or doesn't spend time with you? Are you still going to love then unconditionally? If so, then why break it off with them? How about kids? An example is your loving teenager or even adult kids murders the love of your life. But what the heck; you still love the that child. After all its just a murder. Sorry, I am having a hard time digesting that. I love my brother and the condition I set is he talks to me on the phone once in a while or we have coffee. Yes, small conditions but conditions none the less. I would not love anyone without some conditions in place as I am not a fool. The conditions don't have to be materialistic; the person doesn't even have to say they love me but I do expect them to acknowledge the existence of me; that is my condition. I may not be romantic but I am practical. Love is a feeling, not a condemnation, or a contract, or a prison sentence. You can leave a bad person you love. Why leave them if your love is unconditional? Wouldn't you want to stay with them no matter what they did? Isn't that the premise of unconditional love; no conditions? |
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If love was unconditional; why are there divorces or break ups? If someone cheats on you; then why leave them if your love is unconditional? The condition is you love them and they don't cheat on you. How about when someone abuses you, neglects you, or doesn't spend time with you? Are you still going to love then unconditionally? If so, then why break it off with them? How about kids? An example is your loving teenager or even adult kids murders the love of your life. But what the heck; you still love the that child. After all its just a murder. Sorry, I am having a hard time digesting that. I love my brother and the condition I set is he talks to me on the phone once in a while or we have coffee. Yes, small conditions but conditions none the less. I would not love anyone without some conditions in place as I am not a fool. The conditions don't have to be materialistic; the person doesn't even have to say they love me but I do expect them to acknowledge the existence of me; that is my condition. I may not be romantic but I am practical. Love is a feeling, not a condemnation, or a contract, or a prison sentence. You can leave a bad person you love. Why leave them if your love is unconditional? Wouldn't you want to stay with them no matter what they did? Isn't that the premise of unconditional love; no conditions? no, love is how you FEEL about someone you leave when you are in danger, regardless of what other things you are feeling you leave when something is not good for you, because you also LOVE YOURSELF, regardless of how you feel about the other person this doesnt stop you loving them though |
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If that is the case; why bother to be in a relationship? If I am okay with social and financial status and seems like a waste of time to be with anyone Because we enjoy the feeling of being in a relationship with someone we love and we have to be there before we know if they love us back....which is the goal of any healthy romantic relationship. ...Or for sex? Yeah; I am thinking more the latter as in sex. You can be in any type of relationship where someone is there for you and loves you but it doesn't have to be romantic. I was just saying that if you loved someone unconditionally; you would stay. You wouldn't look at it as a sentence or being condemned; you would look at it as staying for the sake of love. I am just playing devil's advocate. I hear countless times about how back in the days that people stayed together no matter what. I watched in horror as my mom had the crap beat out of her every day; but she stayed for love. |
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If love was unconditional; why are there divorces or break ups? If someone cheats on you; then why leave them if your love is unconditional? The condition is you love them and they don't cheat on you. How about when someone abuses you, neglects you, or doesn't spend time with you? Are you still going to love then unconditionally? If so, then why break it off with them? How about kids? An example is your loving teenager or even adult kids murders the love of your life. But what the heck; you still love the that child. After all its just a murder. Sorry, I am having a hard time digesting that. I love my brother and the condition I set is he talks to me on the phone once in a while or we have coffee. Yes, small conditions but conditions none the less. I would not love anyone without some conditions in place as I am not a fool. The conditions don't have to be materialistic; the person doesn't even have to say they love me but I do expect them to acknowledge the existence of me; that is my condition. I may not be romantic but I am practical. again, love is how we feel for someone feeling love for someone does not require us to remain in unhealthy relationships, we can love without sharing a life that is why things 'break up', because even though we may love someone unconditionally, that doesnt negate our unconditional love for ourself and unwillingness to be unsafe or unhappy to 'prove' love to someone,,, and , as a mother, I can tell you that even if my child murdered someone, I wouldnt stop loving them we dont have to approve of or even like what someone does to love them, I would be disgusted, hurt, dissapointed, but none of that would keep me from LOVING my child Well, I guess you must be a mom saint. I know lots of parents that would not forgive their child if a partner or if another child was killed by them. To add to it; they would end up hating them. |
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If that is the case; why bother to be in a relationship? If I am okay with social and financial status and seems like a waste of time to be with anyone Because we enjoy the feeling of being in a relationship with someone we love and we have to be there before we know if they love us back....which is the goal of any healthy romantic relationship. ...Or for sex? Yeah; I am thinking more the latter as in sex. You can be in any type of relationship where someone is there for you and loves you but it doesn't have to be romantic. I was just saying that if you loved someone unconditionally; you would stay. You wouldn't look at it as a sentence or being condemned; you would look at it as staying for the sake of love. I am just playing devil's advocate. I hear countless times about how back in the days that people stayed together no matter what. I watched in horror as my mom had the crap beat out of her every day; but she stayed for love. I think thats a skewed view of love we are also to love ourself , so as not to willingly put ourself in harms way I think its sometimes better to love from a distance than to try to stay connected for the sake of 'love' but I do think those times are the rarity and most people are breaking up because they never truly 'loved' each other in the first place,,,, |
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If that is the case; why bother to be in a relationship? If I am okay with social and financial status and seems like a waste of time to be with anyone Because we enjoy the feeling of being in a relationship with someone we love and we have to be there before we know if they love us back....which is the goal of any healthy romantic relationship. ...Or for sex? Yeah; I am thinking more the latter as in sex. You can be in any type of relationship where someone is there for you and loves you but it doesn't have to be romantic. I was just saying that if you loved someone unconditionally; you would stay. You wouldn't look at it as a sentence or being condemned; you would look at it as staying for the sake of love. I am just playing devil's advocate. I hear countless times about how back in the days that people stayed together no matter what. I watched in horror as my mom had the crap beat out of her every day; but she stayed for love. I think thats a skewed view of love we are also to love ourself , so as not to willingly put ourself in harms way I think its sometimes better to love from a distance than to try to stay connected for the sake of 'love' but I do think those times are the rarity and most people are breaking up because they never truly 'loved' each other in the first place,,,, As I said; I was playing devils advocate. I personally don't believe in romantic love anyways as I love myself way to much to put myself through any more pain and bull. Although I have to agree that most never truly loved each other in the first place which is why so many break ups. I think the word love is used way to easily anyways. JMO |
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If love was unconditional; why are there divorces or break ups? because that isn't love. If someone cheats on you; then why leave them if your love is unconditional? The condition is you love them and they don't cheat on you. True,one shall not directly leave them if really loving him/her. Any way we shall not mistake love as bound to the person,rather it is more bound to the personality. How about when someone abuses you, neglects you, or doesn't spend time with you? Are you still going to love them unconditionally? If so, then why break it off with them? How about kids? An example is your loving teenager or even adult kids murders the love of your life. But what the heck; you still love the that child. After all its just a murder. Love is automatic & spontaneous feeling.If you hate those actions,then question of loving or not loving don't arise there. Sorry, I am having a hard time digesting that. I love my brother and the condition I set is he talks to me on the phone once in a while or we have coffee. Yes, small conditions but conditions none the less. Rather i see a great deal of care & unconditional love in your mind for bro.It seems that u love him so much that just can't wait for any delay in getting contacted by him.I bet,you won't leave loving him if he don't contact him any odd day. I would not love anyone without some conditions in place as I am not a fool.  You will realize that by time The conditions don't have to be materialistic; the person doesn't even have to say they love me but I do expect them to acknowledge the existence of me; that is my condition. I may not be romantic but I am practical. Actually love feelings exists for something or someone who exists / happens in some form around us,it is love only if it is unconditional. |
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If love was unconditional; why are there divorces or break ups? because that isn't love. If someone cheats on you; then why leave them if your love is unconditional? The condition is you love them and they don't cheat on you. True,one shall not directly leave them if really loving him/her. Any way we shall not mistake love as bound to the person,rather it is more bound to the personality. How about when someone abuses you, neglects you, or doesn't spend time with you? Are you still going to love them unconditionally? If so, then why break it off with them? How about kids? An example is your loving teenager or even adult kids murders the love of your life. But what the heck; you still love the that child. After all its just a murder. Love is automatic & spontaneous feeling.If you hate those actions,then question of loving or not loving don't arise there. Sorry, I am having a hard time digesting that. I love my brother and the condition I set is he talks to me on the phone once in a while or we have coffee. Yes, small conditions but conditions none the less. Rather i see a great deal of care & unconditional love in your mind for bro.It seems that u love him so much that just can't wait for any delay in getting contacted by him.I bet,you won't leave loving him if he don't contact him any odd day. I would not love anyone without some conditions in place as I am not a fool. You will realize that by time The conditions don't have to be materialistic; the person doesn't even have to say they love me but I do expect them to acknowledge the existence of me; that is my condition. I may not be romantic but I am practical. Actually love feelings exists for something or someone who exists / happens in some form around us,it is love only if it is unconditional. The fact is that if my brother completely ignored me; I probably would stop loving him. This is a condition to me. |
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Stepping out of my Melmacian guise, this is what the human version of me knows:
If the unconditional of God the Father lives within your heart, then you will possess the ability to give another person unconditional love. No, a woman doesn't have to give sex in order to receive love. My late wife was disabled to the point that sex was impossible. Did that prevent me from loving her unconditionally? Absolutely No! My late wife knew about my sins, my failures. Did she stop loving me unconditionally? No! Can you love unconditionally on your own ability? Probably not. Can you love unconditionally with God the Father enabling you? Absolutely Yes! |
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my love is unconditional, and not physical
it matters not and is defined not by how close a proximity I keep to the loved or how entertwined our life is,, If I love you, I always love you even if I dont wish to share a life with you even if I dont even want to talk to you very often,,, |
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my love is unconditional, and not physical it matters not and is defined not by how close a proximity I keep to the loved or how entertwined our life is,, If I love you, I always love you even if I dont wish to share a life with you even if I dont even want to talk to you very often,,, msharmony, there you go again, saying something that makes me more attracted to you. Being someone's mommy or daddy definitely brings out the love in a person. |
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Don't think people are capable of unconditional love, we are all just a tad on the imperfect side I think, however that is just my own opinion.
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Edited by
Peter_Pan69
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Fri 03/02/12 04:18 PM
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You will know it's unconditional when no matter how bad someone hurts you, you wish them no ill-will.
There seems to be confusion about tolerating/liking/disapproving of another person's behavior and love. The measure of unconditional love is directly related to your willingness to help out another human in need, no matter what... |
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Human love can never be unconditional.Our love is as imperfect as we humans ourselves r.No woman can love a man who does not provide her food n shelter n no man loves a woman who can not provide sexual pleasure.Only parents love is mostly unconditional but in their old age even they have the expectation to be looked after.Only Gods love for humans is completely onconditional. love can be and is unconditional having expectations doesnt have an absolute connection to loving someone I expected fidelity in my first marriage, because I didnt get that I left that SITUATION, but I still love and always will love my ex husband,,,,thats unconditional There you go, this is what I think a lot of us are trying to say. Love is a feeling. A relationship is an act, or a situation. We can and do make choices about the situation. It's much harder to choose what we feel (I would submit that it's impossible; you can only choose whether to pay attention to the feeling. Feelings that are not restimulated will eventually weaken (though not necessarily disappear completely)). Sorry for the double parentheses. 
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my love is unconditional, and not physical it matters not and is defined not by how close a proximity I keep to the loved or how entertwined our life is,, If I love you, I always love you even if I dont wish to share a life with you even if I dont even want to talk to you very often,,, msharmony, there you go again, saying something that makes me more attracted to you. Being someone's mommy or daddy definitely brings out the love in a person. 
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Edited by
prashant01
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Sat 03/03/12 12:15 PM
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Don't think people are capable of unconditional love, we are all just a tad on the imperfect side I think, however that is just my own opinion. Not just your,it's my opinion too.  but I don't include all therein.
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The concept of unconditional love is nice but I personally think in human relationships it is very unlikely. Eventually a relationship that is unbalanced . especially chroniclly where one person is consistently the giver witht he other being a taker it will wither and die like a plant without water soil and light.
Generally I agree that people expect a certain level of intimacy and affection even protection from the greater world where home feels something like and oasis and all parties contribute on some level or another. I believe there is still a pretty strong More that the man is the primary provider but that is income and not always the real value to the family such as caregiving for dependent children or even aged parents. |
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