Wait, back up.

I just re-read this.

I was 'never' a Christian?
So I was forced to be Confirmed?
Almost became a priest myself because.. I was forced to?

That's a harsh judgement, believer or otherwise.

Because my thoughts and words do not match that of what they were years ago; does not mean I 'never' was.

"Only God can judge me."

"No man has the right to judge another."

Yet, there you are.. passing such.

Every good father has a rule that guide his house, every government has it's law, and every land or country has it's constitution,
dus the God of heaven has created man in his own likeness so a purpose ,Gen 1: 27, and the plan of God to mankind is best known to God, Romans 8 : 26 -29 ,

although everybody claims to come from God, but we know that everybody is not from God, there are children of satan and they know very well that they are from that wicked one.
The supreme God is omnipotent Romans 8 : 26 -29, omniscience, omnipresence,

Bible is written mind of God and the Book of genesis and revelation are written but coded with symbols, making it impossible for anybody who is not his own seed to read and understand it, [mark 4:12] and for any of his seed to read and understand it, he or she must have the holyghost in order to decode what is written therein,

so wheather you believe his existence or not does not affect him, or move his quality,

conserning the tree which the serpent decieved eve to eat was a sex for pleasure he introduce to the woman [eve] it is all written there in the Bible, but except your eyes is open to see it, if you like sleep on top of the bible , you will never understand it, although it is written there boldly,

Satan through that upright Animal called serpent , introduce sex for pleasure to the woman, thereby planting his own seed first before

the second seed which is from her husband [Adam] in other to corrupt the sowing field which is the [eve]

bcos God want them to muiltiply and bring children after their type,

the bone of contention is the woman, why? bcos she is the field to reproduce young one's of their type, and the man Adam has the seed

that should be planted, but satan through that animal corrupt the field, [the woman]

now any man born of a woman has that animal nature in his or her,
and for God to redeem his own seed back, he need not to go through

the same corrupt field, that is why a virgin shall concieve and give birth to a boy, and his name shall be called Jesus for he shall save

his people from their sin, Jesus mean [Jehova saves] (1 Corinthians 15:45]

now God knows all these things will happen, how do you know that he

knows all this things, (John 1:29) and [Rev. 13:8] Jesus before he was born, he was already been slain before the foundation of the

world, all knowing God has his plan for his children that is why jesus came to redeem only the elect of God whose name was writting

before the foundation of the world.Romans. 8:29.

i will stop here because it the teaching of the children of God , not arguement , no, bcos he that has ear surppose to hear, likewise he

that has eyes should see it, but .....for his own alone was the plan of redemption made for.

And your grave is waiting for someone else? If her grave is waiting for her, because she is saying nonsense according to you, then obviously your grave is not waiting for you.

"Do not as for whom the bell tolls..."


You or the OP said that talking transmits AIDS. How would talking transmit AIDS?

How come more Muslims have aids than Christians? (Sub-Saharan Africa is 80% Muslim and there is a 14% penetration of AIDS in the general population.) Even though more Christians do more sex and more cross-gender talking.

You two guys are saying things, but if you apply logic and commons sense to what you say, almost everything you say turns out to be rubbish.

There are two solutions to this: You can continue talking rubbish, or not continue with it, and talk about something else or not talk at all. It is your choice.

Get it? It is YOUR choice. In this land choice is an individualized thing. Great, huh? You talk, and nobody stops you, you are the only one to decide whether to talk or not.

This is called democracy, human rights, and freedom for the individual. If this land's social order was organized the same way as most Muslim lands', then you could not say this. But you can.

So please don't trash our social order and our custom and our traditions. You could not do it if somehow people on this land assumed and accepted the customs and social order that is prevalent on many Muslim lands. This is good what we have here. We enjoy it, and you too, as you proved with this thread. If you want to change the system, then either you will fail in your attempt, or you will have to use a lot of force, which will find resinstence, Muslim brothers.

that is because you don't know the Bible, [2nd timothy 2 :15] the Bible do said, that you should not judge another, it does not mean you should not judge, it means that you that are judging another, make sure that you are not guilty of the same sin. bcos the blind can't lead the blind,
not only God will judge you, but by your fruit you will be known = [judge] bcos we have the bible, Jesus said , He that is not with me, is against me. so how can we know that you are not with him? he said again, he that is not gathering with me, is scarthering .

so reason twice and check yourself

This is a reminder that this is the General Religion forum. This means there are all kinds of beliefs here, not just one belief. Please respect each others opinions. Debate the topic in a civil way.

Kim

Your first response was all, as Wux put it, rubbish and only furthered, not hindered, my points.

As for this; I judged no one. Therefore, again, rubbish and false accusations.

"Bible do said"
"reason twice"

Awesome.

You completely and blatantly ignored everything I said.
Then turn and quote the bible.

Luke 6: "Judge not and you will not be judged. Condemn not and you will not be condemned."

..by your own principle; I will be saved; you will burn.

However, regardless of what response you conjure now; I'm done with this thread once again. "I ask, simply and I ask without prejudice nor hatred; but even despite such, I was met with resistance, a blatant disregard to my question and as such I was slapped so forth with spite, anger, and hate. If this is such the way of the Lord, it is no wonder why so many seek now the darkness. For the darkness does not lie because that is the proven way of the light. Since its creation unfolded."

I won't tolerate you trying to belittle me because I know more of what your scriptures state then apparently you do and as such it's not a debate, its you trying to incite my anger, which you cannot do by simply proclaiming, 'This is what it says, I am right and you are insignificant.' In retrospect, that is the only message you just portrayed.

So before we incite Yellow's wrath.

I'm walking away.

Think what you will.
Ya'll do anyway.

Good day to you all.

you can read the holy bible, yet to get what it's meaning would be so hard, and that is very important,
there is no reason for you to get mad, yes you qouted the verse right, but you misinterpret it, judge not so that you will not be judged, means that you should make sure, that are free of the same accusation while pointing accusing finger to some1 else.
so dont take for offence ok

MARRION WROTE AND I QUOTE:




Marrion, you are preaching what is known as the SERPENT SEED HERESY !!!

IT IS A VERY DANGEROUS AND FALSE TEACHING....A HORRIBLE

HERESY THAT TEACHES THAT JEWS AND EVEN SOME BLACKS AMONG

OTHERS ,ARE BORN OF THE DEVIL ....


THIS KIND OF HORRIBLE TEACHING IS THE ENEMY'S ATTEMPT TO

DISTORT THE GOSPEL IN THESE LAST DAYS...AND THEREFORE ,IS ONE

OF THE MAIN TACTICS THE ENEMY USES , TO TURN MANY AWAY

FROM THE REAL TRUTH OF THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST.....


THIS SERPET SEED HERESY IS JUST ONE OF MANY FALSE

TEACHINGS CIRCULATING OUT THERE..AND HAS EVEN NOW

SNEAKED INTO SOME CHURCHES , AND SOME HAVE ACTUALLY FALLEN FOR

THIS LIE FROM THE PITS OF HELL !!!!!!



THIS FALSE DANGEROUS TEACHINGE IS ONE OF THE WORST.....AND

IS NOT SCRIPTURAL AT ALL, BUT ONLY TWISTS AND MISUSES SCRIPTURE !!!


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LISTEN,MARRION....AND RUN FROM THIS SERPENT SEED HERESY !!!

GET YOURSELF FREE FROM THIS VERY DANGEROUS TEACHING, PLEASE I BEG OF YOU !!!


IT DESTROYS ....AND IT IS VERY DANGEROUS AND SICK.


I AM PRAYING GOD WILL REVEAL THE TRUTH OF GOD'S WORD TO YOU , AND

GET YOU OUT OF THIS DANGEROUS TEACHING, IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN.




WHEN I FIRST CAME ON HERE , SOMEONE ELSE ALSO WAS TRYING TO

TEACH THIS HERESY ALSO..BUT HE WOKE UP AND GOT SET FREE FROM

THIS DESTRUCTIVE TEACHING....THANK GOD !!!

IT IS A HATE TEACHING TOWARDS JEWS AND CERTAIN BLACKS !!

PLEASE LISTEN !!!

PRAYING YOU WILL GET SET FREE TOO NOW.



THE LINKS BELOW GIVE SOME INFO ON THIS DANGEROUS TEACHING THAT

IS NOT FROM GOD.......AND ONLY CAUSES SEPARATION AND DIS-UNITY

IN THE BODY OF CHRIST:



AND ALSO TO OTHERS....GOD IS NOT TO BLAME FOR ALL THE CRAP THAT

GOES ON IN THE WORLD....IT IS THE ENEMY OF OUR SOULS WHO IS AT

WORK DOING THIS.. .. THE ENEMY WANTS TO TURN MANY AWAY FROM

THE GOSPEL.... THE RISE OF FALSE TEACHINGS IS ALSO FROM THE

ENEMY, AND IS ALSO A WAY TO FURTHER DISTORT THE GOSPEL.....ALL

THIS CONFUSED FALSE TEACHINGS AND THE MOVE OF DANGEROUS

RELIGIOUS SPIRTS ON THE RISE ,ARE ALL THE WORKS OF THE

ENEMY ...ALL MEANT TO KEEP THE TRUE GOSPEL FROM GOING FORTH.



HERE ARE THE LINKS BELOW,THAT CLEARLY SHOW THAT THIS TEACHING

DOES NOT NOT NOT COME FROM GOD AT ALL.


I AM PRAYING , MARRION, THAT YOU AND OTHERS IN THIS DANGEROUS

FALSE MOVEMENT,WILL BE SET FREE NOW, IN JESUS NAME I PRAY, AMEN.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpent_seed


http://stevenmcollins.com/html/serpent_seed_heresy.html

See, you state I am 'misinterpreting' it.

"Judge not and you will not be judged".

To me that sounds like don't judge; period.

Not 'you can judge, just make sure you are not pointing the finger while being a hypocrite'.

..but it's all just MO, I guess.

The scripture about not judging was directed to

BELIEVERS,not Unbelievers......


Believers were NEVER told to JUDGE Unbelievers....

If a person's head is buried in a single book for too long, the bound edges of the book can become blinders.

If we do this to a child, are we not limiting that child's freedom?


If the path before you is all that you can see, because the blinders of a book do not allow you see a view from either side, then are not your choices limited?

..I just noticed this.

Thanks Bushido.

..and I noticed this.

..but I've no clue wth he is saying?

1. Yes, I agree. I think it should be handled more like the Amish handle their children. Allow them the opportunity to see 'outside the book' for a while. If that life style is for you, return to it. Forcing a child to see nothing but white will only ultimately be counter-productive, and they will seek the black that much more. It's basic science.

2. Agreed again. That's how I was until event A lead to reaction B and downfall C which caused D, E, and F to come into the picture. Ultimately, it led to the destruction of said 'blinders'. Now I am what types before you.

I say again.

I do not question the existence of 'something greater than ourselves'. I question our perception of that entity.

we are to read the Bible all our life, b'cos it's our living guide.
beside, it's has not brought harm to any society.
all it teaches us is Love, Tolerance, Forgiveness amoungs others...
why don't people want to see the good side of it.
It's call goodnews and everything about that book is good and moral
if you want a child go grow up and not constitute nuisance in the society teach the child the Bible.

Hun, I do see the good inside it.

Why can you not see the bad?
Why can you not see the hypocrisy?

"Thou shalt not kill."

God is the biggest offender of that very commandment.

As I stated before.

Why did he save the slaves from the Egyptians, but not the black slaves? Nor the Jewish during the Holocaust?

Why is it, as Cowboy stated, that he will not obstruct man's free will, yet he did with the Egyptians?

How do you not see the overall hypocrisy in just that alone?

If he is, truly as they state, omni-everything, why did he create the Satan when he would have known the outcome? Or create the tree, knowing the outcome?

Why are there no more prophets?

This alone is why I question his intentions.

The term, 'Actions speak louder than words' screams at me every time I see, 'Why can you not see the good?' I can see the good, but to me, why do you believe the Good has outweighed the Bad? Why send your only son to be crucified (which is a horrible way to go out) if you already knew such would happen? How does that action truly make you seem more high and mighty and a being of Mercy; when you KNEW your son was going to be executed in such a horrid fashion?

A judgement is not killing someone. A judgement is not murder. It is a righteous reward/response to one's faith an action(s).

if you have all these why why why question in mind why not ask Him, He will answer you, b'cos there is no question in a man's heart that he will not answer... He is your Father.

Then,of Course,since God doesn't come down to apply the the Judgment himself,and mete out Punishment,he has Human Actors to do it?

And you wonder,why Religion,unchecked,is about as violent as could be!

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