Topic: Guys have it tough...
Goofball73's photo
Fri 01/20/12 07:52 PM




I'm a dude, and I disagree that guys have it tough. I say this simply because men can do the exact same thing to women. But let's not go into the woman side of this. Let's look at this theory you have. Be warned.....Goof is about to rant.

Nothing wrong with being nice. Nothing wrong with treating women with respect, dignity, and with care. However, what is wrong is when a dude doesn't have a backbone. I'm not talking like he is part of the "smack-a-ho" tribe. I'm talking about when a dude doesn't "man up". Fact is, women want men to be....well....phucking men. Not saying they want us guys to be macho all the time. Not saying dudes have to protect their lady, try to fix them, and all that other crap. I'm talking about women want a man to be confident. If he is a geek, then be the most freaking confident geek alive. Know who you are, and you'd be amazed at the panties that fall before you. Don't go around with this, "Ohhhhhh.....gee wilikers.....will she get mad that I spent money on this clasiic Tonka toy without consulting her"? Dude....nut up. You want it, tell her so. Break it down and have her respect you.

Look, guys are their own worst enemy. We over think crap all the time. We worry when we are trying to get the girl cause we don't want her with another. We worry when we have her and we don't want another dude to come around and steal her. Hey fellas. Guess what? You show your woman love, respect, confidence, communication...etc....and your chick ain't gonna look to another man. Why? Cause she knows she has a great guy. When you doubt things, trust me...chicks pick up on it.

I have been guilty of doing this in the past, so I know what I am talking about. When you like a woman...and I mean really, really like her...then you need to show it. You need to let her know that she is the only girl. Cause if she knows that, then you don't have to worry about silly games. Goof out. And be kind and rewind.




Once again goofball, you have written a great post with lots of wisdom. :thumbsup:



Don't ya wanna date me now? :wink: laugh


Nope, I am not dateable. bigsmile


Oh come on. I'll even let you win at air hockey. laugh

msharmony's photo
Fri 01/20/12 07:59 PM

"It's harder to be with a GOOD woman after she's been with a BAD man."

This got me thinking that it's pretty hard to be a man. Since Adam, they've always had to pay for someone else's mistakes.

"It's unfair being a man. When my wife is pregnant, everybody rubs her tummy and says 'Congratulations' but nobody rubs my balls and says, 'Good job'." .... Lol.

If you're a guy and have loved a woman who has been hurt before and stuck by her, good on you!!! People just don't appreciate good men these days.


it all evens out, once the child is here,,,while most men just go to their same job and continue whatever else they want to do and most women 'stay' with the children through the sick and the grumpy and the difficult stages

during those YEARS of life(compared to months of pregnancy), men will nearly always get looks of ADORNMENT if people see them paying a fraction of the attention to their kids in public that women do DAILY


navygirl's photo
Fri 01/20/12 08:08 PM





I'm a dude, and I disagree that guys have it tough. I say this simply because men can do the exact same thing to women. But let's not go into the woman side of this. Let's look at this theory you have. Be warned.....Goof is about to rant.

Nothing wrong with being nice. Nothing wrong with treating women with respect, dignity, and with care. However, what is wrong is when a dude doesn't have a backbone. I'm not talking like he is part of the "smack-a-ho" tribe. I'm talking about when a dude doesn't "man up". Fact is, women want men to be....well....phucking men. Not saying they want us guys to be macho all the time. Not saying dudes have to protect their lady, try to fix them, and all that other crap. I'm talking about women want a man to be confident. If he is a geek, then be the most freaking confident geek alive. Know who you are, and you'd be amazed at the panties that fall before you. Don't go around with this, "Ohhhhhh.....gee wilikers.....will she get mad that I spent money on this clasiic Tonka toy without consulting her"? Dude....nut up. You want it, tell her so. Break it down and have her respect you.

Look, guys are their own worst enemy. We over think crap all the time. We worry when we are trying to get the girl cause we don't want her with another. We worry when we have her and we don't want another dude to come around and steal her. Hey fellas. Guess what? You show your woman love, respect, confidence, communication...etc....and your chick ain't gonna look to another man. Why? Cause she knows she has a great guy. When you doubt things, trust me...chicks pick up on it.

I have been guilty of doing this in the past, so I know what I am talking about. When you like a woman...and I mean really, really like her...then you need to show it. You need to let her know that she is the only girl. Cause if she knows that, then you don't have to worry about silly games. Goof out. And be kind and rewind.




Once again goofball, you have written a great post with lots of wisdom. :thumbsup:



Don't ya wanna date me now? :wink: laugh


Nope, I am not dateable. bigsmile


Oh come on. I'll even let you win at air hockey. laugh


Will there be rum too? bigsmile

Goofball73's photo
Fri 01/20/12 08:46 PM






I'm a dude, and I disagree that guys have it tough. I say this simply because men can do the exact same thing to women. But let's not go into the woman side of this. Let's look at this theory you have. Be warned.....Goof is about to rant.

Nothing wrong with being nice. Nothing wrong with treating women with respect, dignity, and with care. However, what is wrong is when a dude doesn't have a backbone. I'm not talking like he is part of the "smack-a-ho" tribe. I'm talking about when a dude doesn't "man up". Fact is, women want men to be....well....phucking men. Not saying they want us guys to be macho all the time. Not saying dudes have to protect their lady, try to fix them, and all that other crap. I'm talking about women want a man to be confident. If he is a geek, then be the most freaking confident geek alive. Know who you are, and you'd be amazed at the panties that fall before you. Don't go around with this, "Ohhhhhh.....gee wilikers.....will she get mad that I spent money on this clasiic Tonka toy without consulting her"? Dude....nut up. You want it, tell her so. Break it down and have her respect you.

Look, guys are their own worst enemy. We over think crap all the time. We worry when we are trying to get the girl cause we don't want her with another. We worry when we have her and we don't want another dude to come around and steal her. Hey fellas. Guess what? You show your woman love, respect, confidence, communication...etc....and your chick ain't gonna look to another man. Why? Cause she knows she has a great guy. When you doubt things, trust me...chicks pick up on it.

I have been guilty of doing this in the past, so I know what I am talking about. When you like a woman...and I mean really, really like her...then you need to show it. You need to let her know that she is the only girl. Cause if she knows that, then you don't have to worry about silly games. Goof out. And be kind and rewind.




Once again goofball, you have written a great post with lots of wisdom. :thumbsup:



Don't ya wanna date me now? :wink: laugh


Nope, I am not dateable. bigsmile


Oh come on. I'll even let you win at air hockey. laugh


Will there be rum too? bigsmile



I'll even bring a bottle of my secret stash rum. :wink: bigsmile

kre8karma's photo
Fri 01/20/12 08:54 PM

I'm a dude, and I disagree that guys have it tough. I say this simply because men can do the exact same thing to women. But let's not go into the woman side of this. Let's look at this theory you have. Be warned.....Goof is about to rant.

Nothing wrong with being nice. Nothing wrong with treating women with respect, dignity, and with care. However, what is wrong is when a dude doesn't have a backbone. I'm not talking like he is part of the "smack-a-ho" tribe. I'm talking about when a dude doesn't "man up". Fact is, women want men to be....well....phucking men. Not saying they want us guys to be macho all the time. Not saying dudes have to protect their lady, try to fix them, and all that other crap. I'm talking about women want a man to be confident. If he is a geek, then be the most freaking confident geek alive. Know who you are, and you'd be amazed at the panties that fall before you. Don't go around with this, "Ohhhhhh.....gee wilikers.....will she get mad that I spent money on this clasiic Tonka toy without consulting her"? Dude....nut up. You want it, tell her so. Break it down and have her respect you.

Look, guys are their own worst enemy. We over think crap all the time. We worry when we are trying to get the girl cause we don't want her with another. We worry when we have her and we don't want another dude to come around and steal her. Hey fellas. Guess what? You show your woman love, respect, confidence, communication...etc....and your chick ain't gonna look to another man. Why? Cause she knows she has a great guy. When you doubt things, trust me...chicks pick up on it.

I have been guilty of doing this in the past, so I know what I am talking about. When you like a woman...and I mean really, really like her...then you need to show it. You need to let her know that she is the only girl. Cause if she knows that, then you don't have to worry about silly games. Goof out. And be kind and rewind.


Wow. Delivered with style....you get it. (where's the little emoticon with the "my hat's off to ya"?) Thanks for sharing it.:smile:

mssilverfox's photo
Fri 01/20/12 09:09 PM
I went thru a bad divorce and then remarried after 3 yrs.. My second husband was a gem...He would send flowers unexpectedly, bought me a car once just because he thought I needed one of my own, etc.. He would send my girls flowers , I think because they treated him with much respect.. I have always treated people like I wanted to be treated.. flowers

Goofball73's photo
Fri 01/20/12 09:18 PM


I'm a dude, and I disagree that guys have it tough. I say this simply because men can do the exact same thing to women. But let's not go into the woman side of this. Let's look at this theory you have. Be warned.....Goof is about to rant.

Nothing wrong with being nice. Nothing wrong with treating women with respect, dignity, and with care. However, what is wrong is when a dude doesn't have a backbone. I'm not talking like he is part of the "smack-a-ho" tribe. I'm talking about when a dude doesn't "man up". Fact is, women want men to be....well....phucking men. Not saying they want us guys to be macho all the time. Not saying dudes have to protect their lady, try to fix them, and all that other crap. I'm talking about women want a man to be confident. If he is a geek, then be the most freaking confident geek alive. Know who you are, and you'd be amazed at the panties that fall before you. Don't go around with this, "Ohhhhhh.....gee wilikers.....will she get mad that I spent money on this clasiic Tonka toy without consulting her"? Dude....nut up. You want it, tell her so. Break it down and have her respect you.

Look, guys are their own worst enemy. We over think crap all the time. We worry when we are trying to get the girl cause we don't want her with another. We worry when we have her and we don't want another dude to come around and steal her. Hey fellas. Guess what? You show your woman love, respect, confidence, communication...etc....and your chick ain't gonna look to another man. Why? Cause she knows she has a great guy. When you doubt things, trust me...chicks pick up on it.

I have been guilty of doing this in the past, so I know what I am talking about. When you like a woman...and I mean really, really like her...then you need to show it. You need to let her know that she is the only girl. Cause if she knows that, then you don't have to worry about silly games. Goof out. And be kind and rewind.


Wow. Delivered with style....you get it. (where's the little emoticon with the "my hat's off to ya"?) Thanks for sharing it.:smile:


You should see me bake a cake. :tongue: laugh

kre8karma's photo
Fri 01/20/12 09:22 PM
blushing telling myself to keep this clean...... I could do that. Maybe I'll read some of your other posts first to help me decide how big to make it.:wink:

Goofball73's photo
Fri 01/20/12 09:28 PM

blushing telling myself to keep this clean...... I could do that. Maybe I'll read some of your other posts first to help me decide how big to make it.:wink:


I caution you. To go back and look at some of my posts could be hazardous to your health. tongue2 :laughing:

no photo
Fri 01/20/12 10:21 PM

i made it out to "cash" your check is in the mail




You're Greta Garbo?
I had no idea..

no photo
Fri 01/20/12 10:34 PM
I have always had a thing about ANYONE I love,,going it ALONE when sick,,or in the hospital,,all my married life,,my wife and my kids KNEW,,if THEY WENT DOWN,,DAD WAS DOWN WITH UM..
I stayed every hospital stay,,in there to wait on them and make sure they were not over-looked..and Let me tall you,,THEY AND I SPENT MONTHS in that total time involved in being there..
So,,,to be honest with you and me,,and LIFE HERE,,OK
When I divorced Her,( my EX),,one of the first thoughts I had after that,,was,,wow,,,,I shall NEVER get back from HER,,all the hours and care,,I gave her,,while married?
lol,NOW,,that may sound shallow or greedy on my behalf,,but its just ODD,,how when we look at life and all that we do,,,IT IS,,something we do at that time with no thoughts of DOING THEM,,as we just feel its right,,and its our jobs because we love them,,and they'd do the same for us,,,lol
NO,,,not always,,,I gave fifteen years of never be ill,,to her who was down,,about once a year with some kind of issues,,and nope,,,no paying back,,,NOW,,,and thats funny,,that I would even think THAT,,but I did,,?

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Fri 01/20/12 10:40 PM

I have always had a thing about ANYONE I love,,going it ALONE when sick,,or in the hospital,,all my married life,,my wife and my kids KNEW,,if THEY WENT DOWN,,DAD WAS DOWN WITH UM..
I stayed every hospital stay,,in there to wait on them and make sure they were not over-looked..and Let me tall you,,THEY AND I SPENT MONTHS in that total time involved in being there..
So,,,to be honest with you and me,,and LIFE HERE,,OK
When I divorced Her,( my EX),,one of the first thoughts I had after that,,was,,wow,,,,I shall NEVER get back from HER,,all the hours and care,,I gave her,,while married?
lol,NOW,,that may sound shallow or greedy on my behalf,,but its just ODD,,how when we look at life and all that we do,,,IT IS,,something we do at that time with no thoughts of DOING THEM,,as we just feel its right,,and its our jobs because we love them,,and they'd do the same for us,,,lol
NO,,,not always,,,I gave fifteen years of never be ill,,to her who was down,,about once a year with some kind of issues,,and nope,,,no paying back,,,NOW,,,and thats funny,,that I would even think THAT,,but I did,,?


I don't personally see it as lost time, when you're taking care of someone you really love. People can't help that they get sick, or are sick. One of the vows during marriage is.. "In sickness and health." Unfortunately some men don't take those vows seriously. It's one of the reasons I've never been married.

no photo
Fri 01/20/12 10:52 PM


I have always had a thing about ANYONE I love,,going it ALONE when sick,,or in the hospital,,all my married life,,my wife and my kids KNEW,,if THEY WENT DOWN,,DAD WAS DOWN WITH UM..
I stayed every hospital stay,,in there to wait on them and make sure they were not over-looked..and Let me tall you,,THEY AND I SPENT MONTHS in that total time involved in being there..
So,,,to be honest with you and me,,and LIFE HERE,,OK
When I divorced Her,( my EX),,one of the first thoughts I had after that,,was,,wow,,,,I shall NEVER get back from HER,,all the hours and care,,I gave her,,while married?
lol,NOW,,that may sound shallow or greedy on my behalf,,but its just ODD,,how when we look at life and all that we do,,,IT IS,,something we do at that time with no thoughts of DOING THEM,,as we just feel its right,,and its our jobs because we love them,,and they'd do the same for us,,,lol
NO,,,not always,,,I gave fifteen years of never be ill,,to her who was down,,about once a year with some kind of issues,,and nope,,,no paying back,,,NOW,,,and thats funny,,that I would even think THAT,,but I did,,?


I don't personally see it as lost time, when you're taking care of someone you really love. People can't help that they get sick, or are sick. One of the vows during marriage is.. "In sickness and health." Unfortunately some men don't take those vows seriously. It's one of the reasons I've never been married.
Well,,thats allvery true,,and in my divorce,,she had been cheating on me for a long time,,as loving eyes CAN NEVER SEE.
Soalong with ME ALWAYS BEING FAITHFUL,,the OTHER also came to my mind,,feeling I was cheated,,for when I would be sick through my life,,for her to look after me,,and my guess,,if I had not found out she was cheating,,and filed for a divorce,,then I got sick and was in the hospital,,she would have just been at his place making love,,while I waited for her to come see me,,,lol
It was just roaming thoughts,,at the time of our end,,but it was funny to me,,that I ADDED THAT to my losses in mind and heart..

navygirl's photo
Sat 01/21/12 12:08 PM


blushing telling myself to keep this clean...... I could do that. Maybe I'll read some of your other posts first to help me decide how big to make it.:wink:


I caution you. To go back and look at some of my posts could be hazardous to your health. tongue2 :laughing:


Oh Goof; you are such a ladies man. :smile:

Goofball73's photo
Sat 01/21/12 12:16 PM



blushing telling myself to keep this clean...... I could do that. Maybe I'll read some of your other posts first to help me decide how big to make it.:wink:


I caution you. To go back and look at some of my posts could be hazardous to your health. tongue2 :laughing:


Oh Goof; you are such a ladies man. :smile:


I'm all pimp! :tongue: laugh

navygirl's photo
Sat 01/21/12 03:53 PM




blushing telling myself to keep this clean...... I could do that. Maybe I'll read some of your other posts first to help me decide how big to make it.:wink:


I caution you. To go back and look at some of my posts could be hazardous to your health. tongue2 :laughing:


Oh Goof; you are such a ladies man. :smile:


I'm all pimp! :tongue: laugh


So, can we call you the Mingles pimp? laugh

navygirl's photo
Sat 01/21/12 04:00 PM


I have always had a thing about ANYONE I love,,going it ALONE when sick,,or in the hospital,,all my married life,,my wife and my kids KNEW,,if THEY WENT DOWN,,DAD WAS DOWN WITH UM..
I stayed every hospital stay,,in there to wait on them and make sure they were not over-looked..and Let me tall you,,THEY AND I SPENT MONTHS in that total time involved in being there..
So,,,to be honest with you and me,,and LIFE HERE,,OK
When I divorced Her,( my EX),,one of the first thoughts I had after that,,was,,wow,,,,I shall NEVER get back from HER,,all the hours and care,,I gave her,,while married?
lol,NOW,,that may sound shallow or greedy on my behalf,,but its just ODD,,how when we look at life and all that we do,,,IT IS,,something we do at that time with no thoughts of DOING THEM,,as we just feel its right,,and its our jobs because we love them,,and they'd do the same for us,,,lol
NO,,,not always,,,I gave fifteen years of never be ill,,to her who was down,,about once a year with some kind of issues,,and nope,,,no paying back,,,NOW,,,and thats funny,,that I would even think THAT,,but I did,,?


I don't personally see it as lost time, when you're taking care of someone you really love. People can't help that they get sick, or are sick. One of the vows during marriage is.. "In sickness and health." Unfortunately some men don't take those vows seriously. It's one of the reasons I've never been married.


Hmm, I have never been married either but not because men not taking those vows seriously. Honestly, I don't think women take them seriously either. That being said; where does one draw the line in staying with someone? My ex was sick but it was because he was an alcoholic. Now had I married him; there is no way I would honour that vow if he didn't try to get himself better. How about a drug addict? How about someone who is bi-polar but won't get treatment? How about a women or man that lose thier sex drive but won't get help? You can only love someone so much but if they won't help get themselves better; its time to leave vows or no vows.

kre8karma's photo
Sat 01/21/12 11:57 PM


blushing telling myself to keep this clean...... I could do that. Maybe I'll read some of your other posts first to help me decide how big to make it.:wink:


I caution you. To go back and look at some of my posts could be hazardous to your health. tongue2 :laughing:

laugh I see what you mean! laugh Thanks for trying to warn me.

machug's photo
Sun 01/22/12 12:03 AM



I have always had a thing about ANYONE I love,,going it ALONE when sick,,or in the hospital,,all my married life,,my wife and my kids KNEW,,if THEY WENT DOWN,,DAD WAS DOWN WITH UM..
I stayed every hospital stay,,in there to wait on them and make sure they were not over-looked..and Let me tall you,,THEY AND I SPENT MONTHS in that total time involved in being there..
So,,,to be honest with you and me,,and LIFE HERE,,OK
When I divorced Her,( my EX),,one of the first thoughts I had after that,,was,,wow,,,,I shall NEVER get back from HER,,all the hours and care,,I gave her,,while married?
lol,NOW,,that may sound shallow or greedy on my behalf,,but its just ODD,,how when we look at life and all that we do,,,IT IS,,something we do at that time with no thoughts of DOING THEM,,as we just feel its right,,and its our jobs because we love them,,and they'd do the same for us,,,lol
NO,,,not always,,,I gave fifteen years of never be ill,,to her who was down,,about once a year with some kind of issues,,and nope,,,no paying back,,,NOW,,,and thats funny,,that I would even think THAT,,but I did,,?


I don't personally see it as lost time, when you're taking care of someone you really love. People can't help that they get sick, or are sick. One of the vows during marriage is.. "In sickness and health." Unfortunately some men don't take those vows seriously. It's one of the reasons I've never been married.


Hmm, I have never been married either but not because men not taking those vows seriously. Honestly, I don't think women take them seriously either. That being said; where does one draw the line in staying with someone? My ex was sick but it was because he was an alcoholic. Now had I married him; there is no way I would honour that vow if he didn't try to get himself better. How about a drug addict? How about someone who is bi-polar but won't get treatment? How about a women or man that lose thier sex drive but won't get help? You can only love someone so much but if they won't help get themselves better; its time to leave vows or no vows.


True. I honored my vows 25 years, but enough was enough...finally.

Sin_and_Sorrow's photo
Sun 01/22/12 12:16 AM

I'm a dude, and I disagree that guys have it tough. I say this simply because men can do the exact same thing to women. But let's not go into the woman side of this. Let's look at this theory you have. Be warned.....Goof is about to rant.

Nothing wrong with being nice. Nothing wrong with treating women with respect, dignity, and with care. However, what is wrong is when a dude doesn't have a backbone. I'm not talking like he is part of the "smack-a-ho" tribe. I'm talking about when a dude doesn't "man up". Fact is, women want men to be....well....phucking men. Not saying they want us guys to be macho all the time. Not saying dudes have to protect their lady, try to fix them, and all that other crap. I'm talking about women want a man to be confident. If he is a geek, then be the most freaking confident geek alive. Know who you are, and you'd be amazed at the panties that fall before you. Don't go around with this, "Ohhhhhh.....gee wilikers.....will she get mad that I spent money on this clasiic Tonka toy without consulting her"? Dude....nut up. You want it, tell her so. Break it down and have her respect you.

Look, guys are their own worst enemy. We over think crap all the time. We worry when we are trying to get the girl cause we don't want her with another. We worry when we have her and we don't want another dude to come around and steal her. Hey fellas. Guess what? You show your woman love, respect, confidence, communication...etc....and your chick ain't gonna look to another man. Why? Cause she knows she has a great guy. When you doubt things, trust me...chicks pick up on it.

I have been guilty of doing this in the past, so I know what I am talking about. When you like a woman...and I mean really, really like her...then you need to show it. You need to let her know that she is the only girl. Cause if she knows that, then you don't have to worry about silly games. Goof out. And be kind and rewind.




...nice world you come from.